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#1 Apr 06 2012 at 10:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Random thoughts from the week.
  • Why are men's dress shirts so elaborately wrapped? They have about 8 pins each, cardboard in the back, plus a thin sheet of paper, cardboard under the collar, some type of thing over the collar button, and sometimes even more. When you pick one out in the store to try it on, you have to pull all this **** off (related: why don't dressing rooms have trash cans?), and when you finally accomplish that, the shirt is all wrinkled and doesn't fit like it normally would. Couldn't stores just iron their shirts and put them on hangers?
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  • TV critics that review Game of Thrones without reading the books look at plot developments like Ned Stark's beheading as "OMG! They killed the main character!! How new and innovative!!!" Except, y'know, the book was written decades ago. They also heap all of the credit for the show onto the two guys responsible for adapting the books into a screenplay. Sure it's difficult to get 800 pages into twelve hour-long episodes, but it's much more difficult to write 800 pages of original content, and that's just the first of seven books. Of course, without actually reading the books, they'd never know that the show has basically followed the books to the letter.
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#2 Apr 06 2012 at 10:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Demea wrote:
  • Why are men's dress shirts so elaborately wrapped? They have about 8 pins each, cardboard in the back, plus a thin sheet of paper, cardboard under the collar, some type of thing over the collar button, and sometimes even more. When you pick one out in the store to try it on, you have to pull all this sh*t off (related: why don't dressing rooms have trash cans?), and when you finally accomplish that, the shirt is all wrinkled and doesn't fit like it normally would. Couldn't stores just iron their shirts and put them on hangers?


They package the shirts this way so the stores can carry a larger inventory without worrying about space on clothing racks. You normally don't need to try on dress shirts in the store, as long as you know your shirt size and collar size you can just pick a color and move on with your life.

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Dress shirts are secretly a front company to promote sales for the great pin making crime syndicate families.

As for game of thrones: In the end its not going to be so much that they just kill of main characters, but more that all the characters die except the annoying ones. George R.R. Martin can write, but the guy has a screwed up worldview. Read some of his wild cards series (which are really annoying and i wish he would stop putting with them and finish the game of thrones series already) to get more of a perspective on how I think his brain actually works. In the end its going to be 3 or 4 really **** up characters left on the whole planet, sitting their stareing at eachother going "huh, well, we're screwed" right before the white walkers eat them all. I fully expect the final scene of the book to be a direwolf **** on some sort of slowly burning book titled "fan expectations and likely outcomes that would make sense and not be depressing"
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As for game of thrones: In the end its not going to be so much that they just kill of main characters, but more that all the characters die except the annoying ones. George R.R. Martin can write, but the guy has a screwed up worldview. Read some of his wild cards series (which are really annoying and i wish he would stop putting with them and finish the game of thrones series already) to get more of a perspective on how I think his brain actually works. In the end its going to be 3 or 4 really @#%^ed up characters left on the whole planet, sitting their stareing at eachother going "huh, well, we're screwed" right before the white walkers eat them all. I fully expect the final scene of the book to be a direwolf **** on some sort of slowly burning book titled "fan expectations and likely outcomes that would make sense and not be depressing"

Don't talk about The Family.

I'm afraid to keep reading TGoT. I was just being lazy but I like the sound of Tee Got. Anyway I do think George is probably a very sad man and he's great at making me share his pain.
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#5 Apr 07 2012 at 3:19 AM Rating: Good
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Demea wrote:
Sure it's difficult to get 800 pages into twelve hour-long episodes, but it's much more difficult to write 800 pages of original content, and that's just the first of seven books. Of course, without actually reading the books, they'd never know that the show has basically followed the books to the letter.[/li][/ul]

Ahem, that's 800 pages cut down into 10 hour long episodes. As the books get longer, that hack job is going to get more and more...interesting.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Demea wrote:
Sure it's difficult to get 800 pages into twelve hour-long episodes, but it's much more difficult to write 800 pages of original content, and that's just the first of seven books. Of course, without actually reading the books, they'd never know that the show has basically followed the books to the letter.[/li][/ul]

Ahem, that's 800 pages cut down into 10 hour long episodes. As the books get longer, that hack job is going to get more and more...interesting.

I'm really hoping they split the books into more than one season. It's just not going to work otherwise. The first two in the second season seem to have jumped in like half way through Clash of Kings. Kind of annoying.
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Demea wrote:
Sure it's difficult to get 800 pages into twelve hour-long episodes, but it's much more difficult to write 800 pages of original content, and that's just the first of seven books.


Can you really call all 800 pages "original content," though, when 400 of those pages are devoted to mundane, uninteresting things like the description of every meal that every character has ever sat down to eat during the time period covered in the books?

I have enjoyed the series, basically, so far. But there is no reason for these books to be so long. Some of them have so much filler in them it's ridiculous.

And Kao, I love your spoilered comment so much....
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Sure it's difficult to get 800 pages into twelve hour-long episodes, but it's much more difficult to write 800 pages of original content, and that's just the first of seven books.


Can you really call all 800 pages "original content," though, when 400 of those pages are devoted to mundane, uninteresting things like the description of every meal that every character has ever sat down to eat during the time period covered in the books?

I have enjoyed the series, basically, so far. But there is no reason for these books to be so long. Some of them have so much filler in them it's ridiculous


Really? I don't feel like there's much filler at all. Danny's storyline occasionally bogs down for me (and Tyrion's for portions of Dance w/ Dragons), but that's really it. The rest seem to move at a reasonable clip, and any slow parts tend to serve as a nice break from the heaviness.

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Belkira wrote:
Demea wrote:
Sure it's difficult to get 800 pages into twelve hour-long episodes, but it's much more difficult to write 800 pages of original content, and that's just the first of seven books.


Can you really call all 800 pages "original content," though, when 400 of those pages are devoted to mundane, uninteresting things like the description of every meal that every character has ever sat down to eat during the time period covered in the books?

I have enjoyed the series, basically, so far. But there is no reason for these books to be so long. Some of them have so much filler in them it's ridiculous


Really? I don't feel like there's much filler at all. Danny's storyline occasionally bogs down for me (and Tyrion's for portions of Dance w/ Dragons), but that's really it. The rest seem to move at a reasonable clip, and any slow parts tend to serve as a nice break from the heaviness.


What he said. Though, I do need to finish A Dance with Dragons.
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The earlier books weren't so bad with the filler, but the last couple have been, well, filled with it. Half of Dance could easily be replaced by, "and then they traveled down the rive,r or down the road,or across the sea." The **** book felt more like a travelogue than anything else.
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Belkira wrote:
Demea wrote:
Sure it's difficult to get 800 pages into twelve hour-long episodes, but it's much more difficult to write 800 pages of original content, and that's just the first of seven books.


Can you really call all 800 pages "original content," though, when 400 of those pages are devoted to mundane, uninteresting things like the description of every meal that every character has ever sat down to eat during the time period covered in the books?

I have enjoyed the series, basically, so far. But there is no reason for these books to be so long. Some of them have so much filler in them it's ridiculous.

And Kao, I love your spoilered comment so much....
Yeah, Martin apparently likes to indulge in food. The elaborate and excessive descriptions of every dish served at each feast or banquet get skimmed over.


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@Eske (because I'm replying on my phone and don't want to quote everything in your post). Dany's storyline better really pick up in the next book. I have absolutely no idea why ANYTHING she has done in the East is even slightly important. It's incredibly annoying, and I can't help but consider her entire plot line up until this point as anything but filler.

Edited, Apr 10th 2012 12:01am by Belkira
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Maybe you missed the part where she has DRAGONS!!!
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#14 Apr 09 2012 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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@Eske (because I'm replying on my phone and do t want to quote everything in your post). Dany's storyline better really pick up in the next book. I have absolutely. I idea why ANYTHING she has done in the East is even slightly important. It's incredibly annoying, and I can't help but consider her entire plot line up until this point as anything but filler.


I suppose we have different ideas of what constitutes filler, then. It's not like her parts have consistently lacked for action or import, it's just that they haven't yet fully intertwined with what's going on with Westeros. I'm fine with that, personally, as long as what she's doing is interesting. It's rather entertaining when she's fighting slavers or battling with the affections of would-be suitors, IMO.

I guess one might find her part frustrating if you're only interested in her returning to Westeros and taking the throne. Myself, I'm not in any hurry for that. I like just being in the world with the characters, so I'm not in any hurry for it to end. There's plenty of interesting stuff going on in Westeros to me, so it's not like Dany needs to get there to shake it up. And I find the civilizations on her part of the globe to actually be more interesting than those in Westeros; and I'm always happy to hear more describing them.

The filler, or at least, the dull parts, come when she's mucking about and not much is happening. I don't think this is much of a spoiler, but...

...there are a few decently sized portions of Dance w/ Dragons where a few unnamed, unimportant characters are getting assassinated, and all anyone really does is talk about how it sucks, and how they can't do anything about it. It drags a bit.

That's the only part that that sort of lost me. Then there are the travel portions for other characters (Tyrion, in Dw/D), but those are also used for important exposition, and to introduce new characters. Some of them are definitely filler-ish, though.
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All you have to do is put an "An" in front of the threat title, and you could have the name for the last book in the series! Smiley: schooled
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I'm not sure why people are complaining about detail in a book. I quite enjoy the effort to paint a full picture.

<curmudgeon>I blame television for this. </curmudgeon>

Besides, I don't think Dany is going to win the throne any way. I mean, isn't that the whole point of introducing Aegon in Dance with Dragons?. At least, that's what I got from it. You can't ever really tell with this series, though.

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Myself, I'm not in any hurry for that. I like just being in the world with the characters, so I'm not in any hurry for it to end.



I have felt that way about a lot of books. Martin's books just aren't doing it for me. I'll finish reading them, the plot is a little interesting and I feel like I've invested too much time not to, but I don't feel like they're as good as a lot of people are giving them credit for.

But then, there's a lot of books that were hugely popular that I found only mildly interesting. "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" for example. There's another guy who liked to go on and on about completely useless information.
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I enjoyed the first three Martin books very very much. towards the later ones, I'm worried he's getting a bit Wheel of Time-ish, where in that series the original cast that I loved were barely featured in many books, while the author followed new characters that I frankly had no interest in. Martin is not as bad with mind numbingly boring new characters, but it is bad having a whole book where you are wondering if your favourite characters are going to appear at all... yet? .... now?

The people who rave off their face about Martin probably haven't realised there are authors out there like Robin Hobb, Geoff Ryman and Ursula Le Guin (who are sometimes boring, but sometimes mind-blowingly great), John C Wright, McMaster Bujold (who is better than most people realise, because her psychology, mythology and politics is so refined and subtle) etc.
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Oh, is it time for the "I liked it before it got popular" and "Everyone who likes it just doesn't follow the medium as deeply as I do" -phase with Game of Thrones already? That was fast.

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Myself, I'm not in any hurry for that. I like just being in the world with the characters, so I'm not in any hurry for it to end.



I have felt that way about a lot of books. Martin's books just aren't doing it for me. I'll finish reading them, the plot is a little interesting and I feel like I've invested too much time not to, but I don't feel like they're as good as a lot of people are giving them credit for.

But then, there's a lot of books that were hugely popular that I found only mildly interesting. "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" for example. There's another guy who liked to go on and on about completely useless information.

I felt that way about "Eragon". I couldn't even finish that book and didn't bother with the movie.
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Here's mine for the week:

The **** that package kids' toys need to be hammered in the junk repeatedly. Yesterday I bought a bubble making machine in advance of B's birthday party and the f*cking thing was screwed to the box, with screws impossible to remove. I literally had to rip it free. Then, the screws were large enough to cover battery cover, which is also screwed on. I should not have to work up a sweat to open a bubble machine. Arsholes.

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Oh, is it time for the "I liked it before it got popular" and "Everyone who likes it just doesn't follow the medium as deeply as I do" -phase with Game of Thrones already? That was fast.

/snark

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Nah, I love Game of Thrones, and I love it that other people love it too. I'm in with an excited fancrowd on a devoted GOT forum. What makes me eyeroll is the occasional person who raves that "no-body has ever done what Martin has done in a fantasy novel before." or "GoT is completely innovative, no one else is such a brave and unique writer." Martin IS a great writer. GoT IS a great series. It's just that GoT wasn't the invention of tragedy, or psychologically driven plotting, in fantasy or any other literature. It does people a disservice to tell them that if they adore Game of Thrones, they can't find anything else afterwards that will make them feel as strongly ever again.
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I dunno, I'm pretty sure GRRM invented witty little people.

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I read the books after seeing it on TV. So thar.
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I felt that way about "Eragon". I couldn't even finish that book and didn't bother with the movie.
You dodged a bullet on the movie. That I know with certainty.
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Was that the one with Sean Connery as the voice of the dragon?
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Was that the one with Sean Connery as the voice of the dragon?


I think that was "Dragonheart", or something like that.
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All those flying fire breathing lizards look the same to me.
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DRA-GUN! Not lizard. They don't do that tongue thing.
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Can't blame them. Leading cause of dragon breath.
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DRA-GUN! Not lizard. They don't do that tongue thing.

Such a cute movie.
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