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#152 Apr 11 2012 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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Rather than dropping eight traps, I dropped one Inferno and one Fireball on the dog room. That worked nicely Smiley: grin


I don't remember many specific areas, but whatever the confrontation, I hit things with my axe until they died.

I'm beginning feel like I had a very different experience with this game than everyone else did....
#153 Apr 11 2012 at 3:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Game kinda nudges you towards Redcliffe first, but whatever.


Yeah, which was precisely what I did. Seemed like a such a good idea at the time... Smiley: oyvey

Alrighty, well I may just have to give a re-go a try then, head to the mage tower straight away. Well either that or get to the capital early on so I can buy that spirit healer book sooner if I do another mage. This whole running around with a level 12(?) unspecialized mage (especially one who only grabbed healing spells later on out of necessity) as a healer thing bites. Smiley: lol

Edited, Apr 11th 2012 2:22pm by someproteinguy
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#154 Apr 11 2012 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Those wolf attacks can be seriously and randomly brutal.


Seriously, and I'll save all the time just in case I stumble into one of those as well

The one wolf encounter you get from the job board in Redcliff (I think it was there), that's just nasty. Smiley: frown
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#155 Apr 11 2012 at 3:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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As a warrior, where the hell do I get training for the specialties anyway? I suppose I could Google it, but...


Alistair will teach Templar when his approval is high enough.
You get Reaver from desecrating the Urn of Sacred Ashes.
Champion is taught by Arl Eamon as a reward, if you accept, or by the secret companion, if approval is high enough.
Berserker is taught by Oghren (and I don't think approval matters), or purchased from Gorim in Denerim.

Shapeshifting is taught by Morrigan when her approval is high enough.
Spirit Healer is taught by Wynne when her approval is high enough.
Blood Mage is taught by the Desire Demon in the Fade when you enter from Redcliffe.
Arcane Warrior is taught by the spirit in the phylactery in the Brecilian Forest.

Duelist is taught by Isabela in The Pearl, if you sleep with her or beat her at cards (threesomes also valid).
Assassin is taught by Zevran if his approval is high enough.
Bard is taught by Leliana if her approval is high enough.
Ranger is purchased from Bodhann Feddic in the party camp.

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And @Protein, specializations are unlocked for ALL games (current and future) when you unlock them once, so you don't need to worry about grabbing Spirit Healer from Denerim if you go to the tower. "When approval is high enough" is variable, I think. IIRC, Wynne was rather forthcoming with her secrets, where it took me a lot longer to get Zevran to open up.

Edited, Apr 11th 2012 5:35pm by idiggory
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#156 Apr 11 2012 at 3:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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OK, Idiggory actually did a good job rather than my random mumbling.

Edited, Apr 11th 2012 4:55pm by Jophiel
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#157 Apr 11 2012 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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Decided to Google and found out that if you save and then buy from Gorim, then reload the save, once you level next, you get Berserker for free. Was one quest completion from leveling, so didn't have to wait long.
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#158 Apr 11 2012 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
On my 360 version, I never was able to get Wynne to even have the option of talking about Spirit Healing. I was almost positive that you could learn it from her, but I never could figure out how, so I just ended up buying the book.

Just finished the Witch Hunter DLC. That was interesting... I still can't figure out why I can't log into my account in the game, but I'm waiting on a live chat with support to see if I can fix that.
#159 Apr 11 2012 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, I was wrong. Wynne won't teach you. The book is your only option.
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#160 Apr 11 2012 at 5:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Won't teach you, maybe. You gotta romance her...
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#161 Apr 11 2012 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Has she healed your spirit, Joph?
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#163 Apr 11 2012 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
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Due to EA breaking Mass Effect 3 with their latest patch, I played some DA for a bit. I'm now in the werewolves lair.

EDIT: Guess I should mention that my party consists of a Dwarven Noble Warrior, Dog, Leliana, and Morrigan. Morrigan is actually pretty badass.

Edited, Apr 11th 2012 8:25pm by Kastigir
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#164 Apr 11 2012 at 6:48 PM Rating: Good
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I go back and forth on Morrigan.

On my last play, I maxed her affection (without a romance), and she called me her true friend. Except I had betrayed her, letting Flemeth go, since I knew what happened in DA2 anyway, then telling Morrigan she was dead.

I felt so rotten afterwards.

I think she's actually one of the best written characters, personally. You aren't supposed to like her when you first meet her. You're supposed to come to understand her life, though, and understand how she came to be the way she is. Like Jack in ME2 (who BioWare actually said was intended to drive the player insane at first, but be shockingly endearing once you learned more about her).

Mostly, it was seeing how she reacted to my different choices regarding her and the endings, up through Witch Hunt. I really do like her as a character.
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#165 Apr 11 2012 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
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I mean Morrigan is badass from the perspective as I've set her tactics up to be a damager. As far as her character goes, she's kind of a *****. I will admit though that I will probably let Flemeth go because she's Captain Janeway.
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#166 Apr 11 2012 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, she definitely can be. But I like that a lot of that seems to be a front to hide her own fear.
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#167 Apr 11 2012 at 8:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd kill Flemeth just to end that obnoxious voice acting.

I mean, "Just to end that obnoxious voice acting, HA-HA-HA!!!"

As for Morrigan, yeah, sucks to have a bad mom and all but at the end of the day, Morrigan is evil. She tries to explain off her goal of engulfing a child's soul with that of an 'old god' by saying it's what Flemeth sent her for but that's a bullshit excuse since Morrigan believes her mother's dead anyway. Or dead enough. And it's not about doing the Wardens a solid since Morrigan would step over Alister's corpse for a stick of gum and knows that none of the Wardens except you would accept her plan knowing the full details. Morrigan is doing this act because it's what she wants and what'll bring her power. At that point, it's sort of hard to say "Poor you and your broken mirror; that must have made for some lousy Christmases."

Edited, Apr 11th 2012 9:56pm by Jophiel
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#168 Apr 11 2012 at 9:05 PM Rating: Good
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I have a theory that she's Andraste. And I really want it to be true, because how awesome would that be?
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#169 Apr 12 2012 at 6:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Do you mean Morrigan, or Flemeth? Morrigan is certifiably Flemeth's 20something daughter, not Andraste. Flemeth, as we know, has been around for centuries, so... maybe. But her own origin story says different, as Leliana will tell you in camp if you ask.

Also, to buttress Joph's spoiler: if you refuse to ask Alistair or... you know.... to go through with Morrigan's dark ritual, or if he refuses, Morrigan leaves you in the lurch on the eve of battle, the faithless bitCh.

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Besides, everyone knows that Andraste was reincarnated into a giant dragon! Smiley: grin

Final point on Morrigan: Throughout the game, she reacts hesitantly to friendship or love. As a friend, if you tell her you'll always be there for her, she says you can't promise that not knowing what the future has in store for her. As a lover, she repeatedly tries to end it with you. She knows, and has always known, what she's going to do to advance her own power and however conflicted it makes her this is more important to her than anyone's friendship or love. However tragic, she's not basically a Good Person. She's a Bad Person with sympathetic traits (that she's possibly playing you with).

In contrast, Leliana has done a lot of fucked up shit in her life as an Orlesian bard but you still feel that she's basically a Good Person. A bit too naive and easily led perhaps but not so utterly selfish and power obsessed.

Of course now someday DA3 will come out and it'll be revealed that Morrigan was playing the long game to save the world at great personal sacrifice or something Smiley: laugh


Edited, Apr 12th 2012 8:41am by Jophiel
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#171 Apr 12 2012 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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I was talking about Flemeth. If you play Witch Hunt, Morrigan says that she's more powerful than anyone had ever imagined, not an abomination, and not human. Doesn't mean she's Adraste, of course, I just think that seems fitting with the overall movement of the narrative.
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#172 Apr 12 2012 at 7:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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If she's Andraste, she's really let herself go.

Of course, with the DA character models, under Flemeth's robes is the lithe body of a 24 year old Morrigan. Let your mind chew on that for a while.
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#173 Apr 12 2012 at 7:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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#175 Apr 12 2012 at 8:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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More fun, my Human Warrior has one of the darker skin tones. She spent the first hour or two surrounded by all these pasty white people who claim they're related to her.

It's a conspiracy I tells ya. Smiley: disappointed
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