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#1 Mar 26 2012 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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Because his mind is clearly a terrifying place:


Also terrifying, the Sick of Stimulus website that Cain set up.
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Also terrifying, the Sick of Stimulus website that Cain set up.


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Either we're supposed to believe that his first term was to lull everyone into a false sense of security and that the second term is when he's going to really destroy America, or that everything that has occurred during that first term was isolated to just his term and that everything related to it isn't, in fact, influenced by decades worth of administrations, laws, and policies prior to it.

Either way ol' Santorum has been nothing if not hilarious.
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Santorum's campaigning brought us that collage of his face made out of gay porn, so that's certainly true.
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I thought we were nice to Gbaji

Well, it doesn't seem to be helping.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Because his mind is clearly a terrifying place:


Also terrifying, the Sick of Stimulus website that Cain set up.


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I thought we were nice to Gbaji
Well, it doesn't seem to be helping.

Hey, I told him to buy Trine. Did he listen to me? Noooooooo.... Whaddya want me to do?
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Wait... if the wait for a doctor grows ever longer, why was that hospital hallway empty? And what's with the weird red doctor who flickers? Is that the hospital from Silent Hill or something?

And I have never actually seen one of those playground spinny things moving under its own power. That's always the stock "abandoned playground" signal but if the wind was strong enough to spin that metal wheel around, my kid wouldn't be outside playing on it anyway.

The dude shooting himself in the head with a gas pump was pretty funny though.

Edited, Mar 26th 2012 2:13pm by Jophiel
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Obviously if we elect Obama for a second term, the Rapture will occur.
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Obama is going to cause that to happen. Doctors... ummm... developing photo negatives.

Edited, Mar 26th 2012 2:18pm by Jophiel
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Because his mind is clearly a terrifying place:


Also terrifying, the Sick of Stimulus website that Cain set up.

Ill wait for when it comes out on DVD
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Because his mind is clearly a terrifying place:


Also terrifying, the Sick of Stimulus website that Cain set up.


Normally I don't link to DKos because it is the Great Orange Satan, but this one is relevant: When Men Were Free


That story made me giggle.
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Wait... if the wait for a doctor grows ever longer, why was that hospital hallway empty? And what's with the weird red doctor who flickers? Is that the hospital from Silent Hill or something?

Are you sure it's not this guy?
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wow, is it just me, or doAmerican political ads seem to have less to do with reality with each passing day?

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wow, is it just me, or doAmerican political ads seem to have less to do with reality with each passing day?

Edited, Mar 26th 2012 5:24pm by Olorinus


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You have found a satirically posed thesis: that to create a freedom for something, you have to simultaneously remove a freedom to suppress the former one. Like having and possessing the freedom to life means your freedom to kill other people is taken away or curtailed.

It reminds me of this straight version of the same thesis: What are Conservatives trying to Conserve?. The question being posed and answered by a liberal/progressive.

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Wait... if the wait for a doctor grows ever longer, why was that hospital hallway empty? And what's with the weird red doctor who flickers? Is that the hospital from Silent Hill or something?


It's an allegory for clearly communist doctors.
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Normally I don't link to DKos because it is the Great Orange Satan, but this one is relevant: When Men Were Free
You have found a satirically posed thesis: that to create a freedom for something, you have to simultaneously remove a freedom to suppress the former one. Like having and possessing the freedom to life means your freedom to kill other people is taken away or curtailed.

It reminds me of this straight version of the same thesis: What are Conservatives trying to Conserve?. The question being posed and answered by a liberal/progressive.

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Because all rights are by definition a limitation on power: the right to a secret ballot implies a limit on the government's authority to peek; the right not to be unreasonably searched, absent a judicial warrant, in your home is a limit on the power of the police to do so. The right to marry someone with different skin color is a limit on the police power of the state to prohibit it. The right to march in the street is a limit on the power of the state to stop you. The right to buy contraceptives is a limit on the power of the state to prohibit it. And the right not to be forced to participate in a public school prayer ceremony that is not in accordance with your religious beliefs, or the right not to be singled out and stigmatized for your refusal, is a limit on the power of a state school to require it. The explosion of rights between 1954 and 1973 radically altered the rules of the game and, perhaps more importantly, the perceptions of those who lost their privileges (many of whom had little else).



Whether humorous or serious, both fail because they don't distinguish between positive and negative rights.
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#23 Mar 27 2012 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
Was anybody else seriously disturbed that the "ad" started out with crows? I don't know whether to think Santorum is that racist, or so stupid to not even think about how racist that would appear. Although knowing his base, I doubt any of them would notice.
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That's about as far of a stretch as the Eastwood commercial.
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Was anybody else seriously disturbed that the "ad" started out with crows? I don't know whether to think Santorum is that racist, or so stupid to not even think about how racist that would appear. Although knowing his base, I doubt any of them would notice.

I'm guessing it's pretty much just crows = evil, add crows to ad about Obama to make people think obama = evil. I highly doubt it's anything beyond just trying to get the viewer to associate negative things with Obama.
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Aren't crows pretty much standard for fictional scenes of disaster and death? Whenever I think of crows, I think of the opening scene to the original Diablo, which had a couple crows picking at a hanging corpse.
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I had no idea what she was even talking about until you linked that and I remembered the crap that came up over that a while back. I still don't get the big deal over it.
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Yeah, crows and ravens have been symbols of disaster for centuries. I don't even know where the racism thing comes into that.

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Yeah, crows and ravens have been symbols of disaster for centuries. I don't even know where the racism thing comes into that.


Some claim that the peace symbol is a depiction of a crows talon.
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#31 Mar 28 2012 at 7:57 AM Rating: Excellent
So it's ironic?
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I think that Alanis designed that song as a sort of meta-irony about using irony incorrectly. Like, she used irony wrong ironically, just to play a trick on rhetorical snobs everywhere.

Joke's on you guys.

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I think she designed it so we'd still be talking about it damn near 20 years later.
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Yeah, crows and ravens have been symbols of disaster for centuries. I don't even know where the racism thing comes into that.


It comes from people trying waaaaaaay too hard to find signs of racism in something.
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It comes from people trying waaaaaaay too hard to find signs of racism in something.
Kind of like things coming from people trying waaaaaaay too hard to find signs of politics in something.
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Red Doctor was tricked into appearing in this political ad!


He prefers "Native American Doctor", you racist.
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Red Doctor was tricked into appearing in this political ad!
He prefers "Native American Doctor", you racist.
You're just deflecting from the fact the doctor is an obvious Ruskie, ya commie.
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#42 Mar 28 2012 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, crows and ravens have been symbols of disaster for centuries. I don't even know where the racism thing comes into that.



Jim Crow laws.

It might be a bit oversensitive to accuse Santorum of being racist for using crows in an anti-Obama video, but like I said, it's probably more likely that he and/or the producers of said ad didn't even think about the racial context.

No gbaji, it's not trying to find racism in anything. If they had used a snake instead of crows it wouldn't be racist. Unless it was a black snake of course. Smiley: sly They could have used pretty much any other animal besides a crow (or a monkey/ape) and it wouldn't have been offensive.
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#43 Mar 28 2012 at 3:34 PM Rating: Excellent
yeah, Crows aren't offensive either.
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Yeah, crows and ravens have been symbols of disaster for centuries. I don't even know where the racism thing comes into that.



Jim Crow laws.

It might be a bit oversensitive to accuse Santorum of being racist for using crows in an anti-Obama video, but like I said, it's probably more likely that he and/or the producers of said ad didn't even think about the racial context.

No gbaji, it's not trying to find racism in anything. If they had used a snake instead of crows it wouldn't be racist. Unless it was a black snake of course. Smiley: sly They could have used pretty much any other animal besides a crow (or a monkey/ape) and it wouldn't have been offensive.


There's also those three black birds from the Looney tunes cartoons that talked like the characters in A Gathering of Old Men. Granted, I think they were supposed to be magpies and not crows, but all those black birds look alike, amirite?

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#45 Mar 28 2012 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
Totally. Smiley: wink2
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Yeah, crows and ravens have been symbols of disaster for centuries. I don't even know where the racism thing comes into that.



It might be a bit oversensitive to accuse Santorum of being racist for using crows in an anti-Obama video...


Let's put that one to rest: it is.

Worry not, though. I'm sure he'll say something proper racist in the next day and a half or so.

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It might be a bit oversensitive to accuse Santorum of being racist for using crows in an anti-Obama video, but like I said, it's probably more likely that he and/or the producers of said ad didn't even think about the racial context.


Just a bit oversensitive?

There *isn't* a racial context. Not if all they did was show images of crows flying. Only via the most tortuous route would you see black birds, think of the name "crows" (sure they weren't ravens?), then think "that's like Jim Crow", and then conclude there's a racial context. It's pretty darn absurd.
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I'm sorry.

But are you actually going to bitch about that?

YOU are going to pester someone else for not admitting they were wrong enough?

I just needed to be sure this was real life.
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Well... it IS absurd. Come on, people, there's enough real sh*t going on without making up more.
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Yeah, crows and ravens have been symbols of disaster for centuries. I don't even know where the racism thing comes into that.



It might be a bit oversensitive to accuse Santorum of being racist for using crows in an anti-Obama video...


Let's put that one to rest: it is.

Worry not, though. I'm sure he'll say something proper racist in the next day and a half or so.

Edited, Mar 28th 2012 7:48pm by Eske


Okay fair enough. Ordinarily, it probably wouldn't have even occurred to me. But I've been reading "The Help," and also read a blog about how some people on Twitter are complaining that the character of Rue in Hunger Games ended up being black in the movie, and how it ruined it for them. So yeah, I've had race on the mind a lot the last few days.
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