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#177 Mar 05 2012 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Again though, who's "we"? The white kid applying for college who doesn't make the cut because AA put someone else of a different color ahead of him? Did that guy do something to deserve that? We supposedly threw guilt by association out centuries ago, but guilt by racial group is still alive and well apparently. We can punish that one guy, not because of anything he did, nor anything people he knows or associates with did, but purely because of his skin color?

Does this mean we can forget about Reparations?
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#179 Mar 06 2012 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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I should clarify I don't support AA. I just don't think people should whine when they're in an overwhelming majority about how much they're being oppressed. Does not compute.
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#180 Mar 06 2012 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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And I had just finished making this batch of Rice Krispy Treats.
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Did you make enough for everyone?
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#181 Mar 06 2012 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry, just enough for the people my family didn't own since none of my family tree was here until the 1900s.

Edited, Mar 6th 2012 10:42am by lolgaxe
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#182 Mar 06 2012 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry, just enough for the people my family didn't own since none of my family tree was here until the 1900s.

Edited, Mar 6th 2012 10:42am by lolgaxe

I'd be willing to smear my face with black-ash to get a rice crispy treat.

The results of this study just released are sort of relevant to the is conversation. It claims that minority students are punished more harshly than white students.

I suppose you could say we over-punish minority students while in HS, then we turn around and over-reward them (via AA) as they leave HS (if they've not already quit or been expelled).

Edit: Oopsy - LINK to article about study.

Edited, Mar 6th 2012 5:06pm by Elinda
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#183 Mar 06 2012 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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I should clarify I don't support AA. I just don't think people should whine when they're in an overwhelming majority about how much they're being oppressed. Does not compute.


Are you referring to anyone specifically?

If not, I'd simply state that there are people in that overwhelming majority who get oppressed. I won't begrudge them a whine now and again.
#184 Mar 06 2012 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Nilatai wrote:
I should clarify I don't support AA. I just don't think people should whine when they're in an overwhelming majority about how much they're being oppressed. Does not compute.


Are you referring to anyone specifically?

If not, I'd simply state that there are people in that overwhelming majority who get oppressed. I won't begrudge them a whine now and again.

No one specifically. It does go for all majorities, though. White middle class protestant males, mostly, though.
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#185 Mar 06 2012 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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Nilatai wrote:
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Nilatai wrote:
I should clarify I don't support AA. I just don't think people should whine when they're in an overwhelming majority about how much they're being oppressed. Does not compute.


Are you referring to anyone specifically?

If not, I'd simply state that there are people in that overwhelming majority who get oppressed. I won't begrudge them a whine now and again.

No one specifically. It does go for all majorities, though. White middle class protestant males, mostly, though.


I think you view the world with too many generalities. Seen it before with your views on religion.
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I'll take 25%. Let the oppressed ******** begin!
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#187 Mar 06 2012 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I read the thread and rated up gbaji a bunch.

How the **** did that happen?
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#188 Mar 06 2012 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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#189 Mar 06 2012 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
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I should clarify I don't support AA. I just don't think people should whine when they're in an overwhelming majority about how much they're being oppressed. Does not compute.


Are you referring to anyone specifically?

If not, I'd simply state that there are people in that overwhelming majority who get oppressed. I won't begrudge them a whine now and again.

No one specifically. It does go for all majorities, though. White middle class protestant males, mostly, though.


I think you view the world with too many generalities. Seen it before with your views on religion.

Maybe. I'm probably going off of what I see here in the UK more than anything. I see a bunch of Tory voters whining about how they're being oppressed by multiculturalism and the like.

By which they mean they're having to make accommodation in their lives for people who aren't white middle class or...well not so much the protestant thing. The religious right don't really come out to play here any more. Most of them are C of E, though.


Also is the new reply text annoying anyone else's eyes?
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#190 Mar 06 2012 at 5:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nilatai wrote:

Also is the new reply text annoying anyone else's eyes?


Large text is large.
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#191 Mar 07 2012 at 5:28 AM Rating: Good
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Also is the new reply text annoying anyone else's eyes?


Large text is large.
I thought I had accidentally pressed ctrl, + until I realised the rest was still normally sized.
I imagine Bijou's happy with it though.
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#193 Mar 07 2012 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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What new reply text? It looks the same to me.
#194 Mar 07 2012 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Nilatai wrote:

Also is the new reply text annoying anyone else's eyes?


I thought it was only me..... There should be an option to change it.
#195 Mar 07 2012 at 11:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also is the new reply text annoying anyone else's eyes?


I thought it was only me..... There should be an option to change it.

There is http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=3&mid=1330990642201038680&p=1#8
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#196 Mar 07 2012 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:

Also is the new reply text annoying anyone else's eyes?


I thought it was only me..... There should be an option to change it.

There is http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=3&mid=1330990642201038680&p=1#8

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#197 Mar 07 2012 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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Nilatai wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:

Also is the new reply text annoying anyone else's eyes?


I thought it was only me..... There should be an option to change it.

There is http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=3&mid=1330990642201038680&p=1#8

Thaanks. Smiley: flowers

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#198 Mar 07 2012 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, so the reply feature only changed on the other skins? EQ1 skin wins again, yay!
#199 Mar 07 2012 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Elinda wrote:
The results of this study just released are sort of relevant to the is conversation. It claims that minority students are punished more harshly than white students.


The article you linked to says that. The statistics they quoted from the study only say that minority students are punished more often than white students. It's pretty speculative to assume this means that the same exact behavior at the same school results in greater punishment because someone is a minority.

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I suppose you could say we over-punish minority students while in HS, then we turn around and over-reward them (via AA) as they leave HS (if they've not already quit or been expelled).


Or... People release studies which almost no one will read, which are then reported on by people who will be read far more widely in such a way as to suggest that this is the case.


No one's disputing that there are socio-economic factors which result in black and latinos being subject to disciplinary actions more often (and more harshly) than other groups. The results in that study should not surprise anyone who's looked at prison statistics. It's the same thing, right?

The question is about what we do about it. And I don't think that AA helps at all. I think it treats the wrong problem, in the wrong way, and allows the real problem to go by unaddressed. So each generation that gap in "real" outcome grows, but instead of doing anything about it, we comfort ourselves that we're offsetting that with some bonuses on the back end. And while I'm sure AA helps out the middle class black folks just fine, I don't think it's doing a whole hell of a lot at all for those who are really suffering.
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#200 Mar 08 2012 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
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The question is about what we do about it. And I don't think that AA helps at all. I think it treats the wrong problem, in the wrong way, and allows the real problem to go by unaddressed. So each generation that gap in "real" outcome grows, but instead of doing anything about it, we comfort ourselves that we're offsetting that with some bonuses on the back end. And while I'm sure AA helps out the middle class black folks just fine, I don't think it's doing a whole hell of a lot at all for those who are really suffering.


And your solution is?
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#201 Mar 08 2012 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, so the reply feature only changed on the other skins? EQ1 skin wins again, yay!
I'm on the EQ skin.Smiley: mad

It's the text window for respond/quote with the larger and changed font. I'm on FF, though...Chrome users are apparently not affected.
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