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#1 Feb 22 2012 at 8:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think we discussed this briefly before, probably years ago, however I saw something today that made me want to share.

We have a guy who comes in late everyday on a "flex" schedule. He's an older fella, probably late 40's. He's also an avid biker (pedal bike, not vroom vroom) and typically bikes about 15 miles in every day, even in the winter. Dudes in good shape, and rocks a **** stache that would make Ron Jeremy jealous.

That said, he has an annoying routine. Every day he comes in he goes into the mens room, strips down to his spandex shorts and gives himself some sort of sponge bath. He uses a bunch of paper towels, and wipes his sweat off, then changes into his work clothes. All pretty much right in the middle of everything. I should point out there's a flipping shower in the room, with it's own changing area with a curtain for privacy.

That is weird enough, but today topped it. I go in to get rid of some morning coffee, and the crapper door is shut. No big deal, people gotta crap. However when I finish up and turn to go to the sink to wash my hands, out comes biker boy stark nekkid.

Now what you do at home is your own business. But come on man, have some fUcking common courtesy.
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#2 Feb 22 2012 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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If I could get away with walking around a venue naked, I'd do it--even if I had to blame my cycling.
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I love it. It's like he had some common decency when no one was there, but as soon as someone comes in he's got to be an exhibitionist.

If it really irritates you (and it should), you should say something to a supervisor. If there is literally a curtain changing area and a shower, it wouldn't be out of line to request him to use it.
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Next time he struts around naked, snap a cellphone pic and send it to his subordinates.

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He probably has a man-crush on you and was advertising his wares.
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#7 Feb 23 2012 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
If there weren't changing facilities in the area, I'd kinda feel for the guy, but this routine is ridiculous. If he is walking around naked, you should definitely go see HR.
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That's weird. I mean, he has a changing area. I'm with Debalic: man-crush. Or some odd bathroom-nakedness fetish.

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If there isn't really any facilities to shower and change and stuff, sure. A quick bird bath to clean off the stink of the day is better than nothing. Of course, I somehow doubt he's involved in any kind of work that would justify that, and I'd probably bring it up to the human resources person.
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Yeah, at that point, if you don't say something he's probably going to keep doing it and possibly escalate.
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Yup. It would still be weird without the shower area, but you could accept it as something of a necessity for him.

WITH the shower area? Ha, no. That's just weird.
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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.
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Gossip about how little he is, or how one side hangs lower than the other. Start the rumor mill going. Smiley: nod
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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused
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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused

I don't know but he said exactly what I was thinking. When I was a supervisor it annoyed the **** out of me when people came to me with stuff like this. It normally went something like
"Bob is doing this thing that I think is inappropriate."
"Did you talk to Bob?"
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"How old are you?"


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He is certainly out of line for any sort of office environment, he's not at the gym.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2012 6:16pm by SillyXSara
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I believe that's Joph's wife and Demea was being sarcastic?
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Yup. It would still be weird without the shower area, but you could accept it as something of a necessity for him.

WITH the shower area? Ha, no. That's just weird.
What?! No dude, you're gay. You're supposed to be staring at him. Check any of Alma's posts for veracity on that statement.
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I disagree. Someone's borrowing your stapler too much, or without asking? You talk to them. Someone's playing their music too loud? You talk to them. Popping their gum, whistling, microwaving food that makes the whole eating area smell?

Yeah, HR doesn't need to be involved with that. It's unimportant stuff. And no one should feel uncomfortable asking someone else to stop. If the other person blows you off, and your complaint is legitimate, then yeah--go to HR.

This is a very, very different issue, imo. Plenty of people would be really uncomfortable having that conversation. And even assuming the guy stops afterwards, you are always going to be the guy that told him to stop walking around naked.

This strikes me as the kind of situation where anonymity is a legitimate request. The guy needs to stop doing it (and most of the office probably agrees). No need for the OP to take the brunt of that. That's why HR exists.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Yup. It would still be weird without the shower area, but you could accept it as something of a necessity for him.

WITH the shower area? Ha, no. That's just weird.
What?! No dude, you're gay. You're supposed to be staring at him. Check any of Alma's posts for veracity on that statement.


Oh, we are talking about a guy? Sorry, I must have been confused. Clearly I would have just locked him in the stall and had my way with him.
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Yeah, call me immature if ya want, but that's not a conversation I'd be comfortable having. At least not with this dude, he's a bit off anyway. If it were a buddy of mine, or even just someone I was on good working terms with, I wouldn't have a problem saying something. But there's something wrong with this guy.

I do believe he's a bit of an exhibitionist. He was talked to before, as when he got to work he used to do this stretching routine right outside the door in full view of the manufacturing floor, again wearing nothing but his spandex. The ladies on the floor complained, he was talked to, and he just moved over a bit to where it wasn't quite so obvious. Another time there were complaints as he would do his sponge bath routine too close to the door. When other guys would walk in, anyone in the hall could see him, and a few did.

Also, HR doesn't exist anymore. At least not locally. They were laid off, and supposedly we have a contact in Georgia or some **** thing. That contact has proven to be as useful as tits on a boar.

I'll manage. Usually I avoid the bathroom at the time he comes in just for this reason. I just had to have something to gripe about yesterday, and this happened to be it. It also struck me as particularly weird since he was obviously **** while naked. I've got no problem if you do that in your home, but doing it in public is just wrong.
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I believe that's Joph's wife and Demea was being sarcastic?

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Tell him next time that if you see any man berries again you will take a golf club and try to make a hole in one with them. Follow up with bringing a golf club to work and making sure he notices every time he comes in.
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It really freaks you out that much that you're afraid to talk to him? He's just used to a gym locker room setting apparently. Every time I go to the gym all the younger guys change behind the curtains conveniently attached to each shower area but the older men who are used to a nude environment in the locker rooms just walk around naked the whole time. This honestly wouldn't bother me much, he doesn't have anything I haven't seen before, but it would be odd in a work environment and I think it would be perfectly reasonable to ask him to stop. It sounds like you don't have a personal work relationship with him to risk anyway and if everyone else is also bothered I don't see why you have to be worried about being the guy that told him to put his junk away.

I put this in the same category as making annoying noises at your desk, when he was getting nude by the doorway where any passerby might happen to see, that is a bigger issue. Even that I would still say politely informing him of his offense is the first course of action. I hate how the norm is to report to authorities right away.
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It really freaks you out that much that you're afraid to talk to him? He's just used to a gym locker room setting apparently. Every time I go to the gym all the younger guys change behind the curtains conveniently attached to each shower area but the older men who are used to a nude environment in the locker rooms just walk around naked the whole time. This honestly wouldn't bother me much, he doesn't have anything I haven't seen before, but it would be odd in a work environment and I think it would be perfectly reasonable to ask him to stop. It sounds like you don't have a personal work relationship with him to risk anyway and if everyone else is also bothered I don't see why you have to be worried about being the guy that told him to put his junk away.

I put this in the same category as making annoying noises at your desk, when he was getting nude by the doorway where any passerby might happen to see, that is a bigger issue. Even that I would still say politely informing him of his offense is the first course of action. I hate how the norm is to report to authorities right away.


Locker rooms and workplace rest rooms are quite different. Especially as I'm guessing this guy's behavior is specifically geared towards getting attention, given the other details we now have. I don't think imagining a normal guy changing is properly describing what's happening here.

Hell, just think about the fact that instead of using the shower, he's sponge bathing in the sink. And was doing it where the women of the office could see him, before he was asked to stop. Now he's just doing it where everyone else can see him, and it HAS to be more annoying then quickly rinsing off in the shower.

Honestly, the guy wants attention. I can't see it any other way.
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Post a NO NAKED sign in the bathroom. One of them red circles with a line through the pictorial of a nekkid guy.
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It really freaks you out that much that you're afraid to talk to him? He's just used to a gym locker room setting apparently. Every time I go to the gym all the younger guys change behind the curtains conveniently attached to each shower area but the older men who are used to a nude environment in the locker rooms just walk around naked the whole time. This honestly wouldn't bother me much, he doesn't have anything I haven't seen before, but it would be odd in a work environment and I think it would be perfectly reasonable to ask him to stop. It sounds like you don't have a personal work relationship with him to risk anyway and if everyone else is also bothered I don't see why you have to be worried about being the guy that told him to put his junk away.

I put this in the same category as making annoying noises at your desk, when he was getting nude by the doorway where any passerby might happen to see, that is a bigger issue. Even that I would still say politely informing him of his offense is the first course of action. I hate how the norm is to report to authorities right away.


Locker rooms and workplace rest rooms are quite different. Especially as I'm guessing this guy's behavior is specifically geared towards getting attention, given the other details we now have. I don't think imagining a normal guy changing is properly describing what's happening here.

Hell, just think about the fact that instead of using the shower, he's sponge bathing in the sink. And was doing it where the women of the office could see him, before he was asked to stop. Now he's just doing it where everyone else can see him, and it HAS to be more annoying then quickly rinsing off in the shower.

Honestly, the guy wants attention. I can't see it any other way.
I wasn't trying to argue against that really, I was just trying to explain why I wouldn't find it so shocking to prevent me from talking to him about it. I also said in both posts it was obviously inappropriate for a work environment. Sorry I get a little off topic illustrating my points sometimes.

I also have to say his persistence would certainly warrant a more blunt approach when talking to him. He's obviously very dense and needs it. Also, he likes you.
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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused

Joph sold me short on the benefits of marriage to him. :'(

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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused

Joph sold me short on the benefits of marriage to him. :'(

Edited, Feb 25th 2012 8:40am by Atomicflea


Should have made a better contract.
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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused

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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused

Joph sold me short on the benefits of marriage to him. :'(

Look on the bright side; if you divorce, you get half his post count!

But then I would inherit his enemies, as well.

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Atomicflea wrote:
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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused

Joph sold me short on the benefits of marriage to him. :'(

Look on the bright side; if you divorce, you get half his post count!

But then I would inherit his enemies, as well.

/tremble


You'd be expected to supply half his responses to gbaji and varus too.
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Once a month, ThiefX would come in and make a cranky post in your direction.


He's an old school lunatic. Only when the moon is full.
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He's an old school lunatic. Only when the moon is full.


Well, if you're going to be a lunatic you may as well be an orthodox lunatic.

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He's an old school lunatic. Only when the moon is full.


Well, if you're going to be a lunatic you may as well be an orthodox lunatic.


Strict adherence to dogma's never been his weakness, I suspect. People with his condition tend to be very obedient to their parents.

Alternate response: I'm sure Stalin would disagree.
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Atomicflea wrote:
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Any supervisor is going to ask if you already tried speaking to him about it. I think a direct "You're making me really uncomfortable, please use the shower and curtain" is proper and respectful. If he ignores you, punch him in the nads, then refer it to a supervisor.

Who's this stranger? Smiley: confused

Joph sold me short on the benefits of marriage to him. :'(

Look on the bright side; if you divorce, you get half his post count!

But then I would inherit his enemies, as well.

/tremble

So, are you on vacation or something?
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