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#1 Feb 22 2012 at 5:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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...were the result of a lose wire. Apparently.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-02/bummer-faster-light-neutrinos-werent-and-it-was-cable-guys-fault?cmpid=tw wrote:
While applauding the Italian researchers’ careful experiments, most of the world of physics assumed the scofflaw particles were the result of some kind of mistake, because nothing can go faster than light. Theories abounded, from fun relativity reasons to simple math errors. It turns out it was even more boring, more humdrum, more insipid than even that — someone hadn’t plugged in a wire all the way. Science Insider broke the news this afternoon, citing unnamed sources familiar with the experiment.



Shame. I had a feeling it would be something simple, but there was always the tiny part of me which was excited by it!

Ah well.


ETA: Apparently they're doing more tests soon any way. So we'll see.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2012 6:38pm by Nilatai
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#2 Feb 22 2012 at 5:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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#3 Feb 22 2012 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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That just means I can be a scientist, with how often I forget to plug in the toaster in the morning.
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Means you can be a lab tech. Smiley: tongue

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#5 Feb 22 2012 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I never believed the findings. It IS a shame though, would have been super interesting for science.
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You misspelled Science! there.
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#7 Feb 22 2012 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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HAHA! Can you imagine being that person that didn't plug it in and/or check it?!

I'm using this guy/gal as an example next time I have a bug in my code, which is never... ;)
#8 Feb 23 2012 at 4:38 AM Rating: Good
Hey, Gbaji, photons still don't have mass.

Also, RDMcandle probably owes me $200.
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#9 Feb 23 2012 at 7:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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That just means I can be a scientist, with how often I forget to plug in the toaster in the morning.

Why do you unplug your toaster? Just general fire safety?
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Not enough outlets in the kitchen?
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#11 Feb 23 2012 at 7:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Off topic, but I keep seeing this thread and thinking it's about nutria. Faster than light nutria would be AWESOME.

Also, I unplug appliances to save electricity. Cause I'm thrifty.

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My toaster is so old that even plugging it in doesn't use electricity. I'm always amazed when the little red bars start glowing. I need a new one, but who ever really leaves the house with the intention of buying a toaster??
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Why do you unplug your toaster? Just general fire safety?
Muscle memory. Growing up my mother encouraged the practice of unplugging appliances when they weren't in use. And by encourage, I mean a swing of a wooden ladle.
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If the appliance uses capacitors, the surge upon being plugged in to refill the capacitor probably uses more electricity than leaving it plugged in all day would have, plus repeatedly unplugging things wears on the cord prongs and the outlets.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If the appliance uses capacitors, the surge upon being plugged in to refill the capacitor probably uses more electricity than leaving it plugged in all day would have, plus repeatedly unplugging things wears on the cord prongs and the outlets.

True, but I'm not entirely sure how many kitchen appliances actually use capacitors...
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If the appliance uses capacitors, the surge upon being plugged in to refill the capacitor probably uses more electricity than leaving it plugged in all day would have, plus repeatedly unplugging things wears on the cord prongs and the outlets.

True, but I'm not entirely sure how many kitchen appliances actually use capacitors...


anything with a control board these days. Dishwashers, most stoves with digital oven controls, most refridgerators with ice makers, almost all microwaves, Bread makers, Some toasters.
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I don't have a microwave oven, but I do have a clock that occasionally cooks shit.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
If the appliance uses capacitors, the surge upon being plugged in to refill the capacitor probably uses more electricity than leaving it plugged in all day would have, plus repeatedly unplugging things wears on the cord prongs and the outlets.

True, but I'm not entirely sure how many kitchen appliances actually use capacitors...


anything with a control board these days. Dishwashers, most stoves with digital oven controls, most refridgerators with ice makers, almost all microwaves, Bread makers, Some toasters.

Most of those you don't unplug regularly. I tend to unplug stuff that heats up, toaster and griddle.

I almost bought a bread-maker the other day. It was at the goodwill store. A black and decker that didn't look used at all. I picked it up, set it down, picked it up, set it down then bought a couple purty necklaces out of the half-price jewelry basket.

Anyone use a bread-maker - like regularly? Or does it just become another worthless appliance?

Edit to add - I have two power strips I shut off nightly - electronics and lamps on them mostly (phantom energy Smiley: eek)

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Everyone I know who purchased a bread maker used it all the time for the first month or two they owned it.

Then it went into the cupboard and hasn't been used for years. It's just one of those things that are like "Oh, it's new, I'll use this all the time" and you end up using it less and less and just go out and buy a 1 dollar loaf of bread.
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#22 Feb 23 2012 at 9:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I use my bread maker occasionally. The newer ones do alot more than just make bread or dough, they have custard settings, etc. Mine just makes dough though. and bread. I do use it to make my dough for my ultimate cinimon roll recipie of doom though! (also works as a pizza crust)

Kaolian’s Ultimate Cinnamon Rolls of Doom!

Bread base
1/3 cup milk
1 cup cream cheese, diced
1/4 cup butter
1 egg
3 tablespoons white sugar
1 teaspoon salt
3 cups bread flour
2 1/2 teaspoons active dry yeast

Filling
1/2 cup butter, softened
1 cup firmly-packed brown sugar
3 to 4 tablespoons cinnamon (use the good stuff)
1 cup raisens

Topping (stolen from Cinnabon)
2 ounces cream cheese, room temperature
1/4 cup butter, room temperature
1 cup powdered sugar
1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract
1/4 teaspoon almond extract

Combine bread ingredients in bread machine set on “dough only” Roll resulting dough into large flat rectangle, roughly 1/3“ thick. Combine filling ingredients, spread on surface of dough, then roll up and cut into 2 inch sections. Place sections into buttered and floured 9 x 13 pan. Cover with a towel and let rise for 60 minutes. Bake at 350 degrees f for 23 minutes. Cover with topping while still warm from oven for best results.
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I would make cinnamon rolls with the frozen premade dough from Schwan's. It turned out just fine. Same filling (minus the raisins). The topping would be just more of the filling, spread ontop and melted. I liked it better than a cream topping.
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Elinda wrote:
Anyone use a bread-maker - like regularly?


I did when I lived with someone who owned one. It did the job, easier but less satisfying than kneading dough by hand. And a ***** to clean.

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... And a ***** to clean.

Cleanability is a big issue for me. I tried to imagine how hard or easy the thing would be to clean, but I just couldn't get a good gauge on it.

I'm happy with my decision to NOT purchase the bread-maker even though it was a steal at ten bucks. If I bought it, I'd probably be laden with guilt every day I didn't bake a loaf of break in it.
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