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#1 Jan 27 2012 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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For me, it's The Avengers cartoon. My son (who is 3) watches this on Netflix, and I watched one episode with him and was hooked. While I still think my Thundercats, G.I. Joe, and Transformers were cooler, this cartoon is awesome and I'm strangely not ashamed of how much I enjoy it.

What childish pursuits have you discovered or never abandoned?
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I've bene watching that with my son as well. I also have to play with Lego and Transformers. It's tough, but a father's job is never done.
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I like Avengers: EMH a lot. Definitely world's better than the one they released during the 90s.

If it hasn't been bleedingly obvious, mine are comic books and cartoons.
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I dunno. Back when I played them, I used to think that Final Fantasy games were too young for me, but it wasn't exactly a quality about them that I really enjoyed. The more they seemed like they were designed for early-teen Japanese boys, the less I liked them.

Can't really think of much else. Maybe I'm too old to think that a career in the gaming industry is viable or even desirable, but that doesn't stop me from thinking it's cool.

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Besides the obvious video game obsession, paintball is probably the thing I need to simply declare I'm done with. I love playing, but it's getting hard to get my team together anymore, and the crouching does a number on my knees these days.

Things I don't like anymore; sugary sweets like starbursts or sprinkles, really loud obnoxious music and tequila.

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I dunno. Back when I played them, I used to think that Final Fantasy games were too young for me, but it wasn't exactly a quality about them that I really enjoyed. The more they seemed like they were designed for early-teen Japanese boys, the less I liked them.

Can't really think of much else. Maybe I'm too old to think that a career in the gaming industry is viable or even desirable, but that doesn't stop me from thinking it's cool.

I'd say video games but I think they've gotten older with me. If anything, watching my kid play sometimes makes me think he's too young to appreciate them ("What's this guy talking for? *Press.. press... presspresspresspress* I just want to hit stuff").

That's not to use too broad a brush, of course. All sorts of games out there these days.
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I dunno. Back when I played them, I used to think that Final Fantasy games were too young for me, but it wasn't exactly a quality about them that I really enjoyed. The more they seemed like they were designed for early-teen Japanese boys, the less I liked them.

Can't really think of much else. Maybe I'm too old to think that a career in the gaming industry is viable or even desirable, but that doesn't stop me from thinking it's cool.

I'd say video games but I think they've gotten older with me. If anything, watching my kid play sometimes makes me think he's too young to appreciate them ("What's this guy talking for? *Press.. press... presspresspresspress* I just want to hit stuff").

That's not to use too broad a brush, of course. All sorts of games out there these days.


They're making progress, for sure. As gamers get older, and the average age goes up, more and more games are catering to the new demographics.

I've seen that side of it that you're talking about. Uncharted 3 had a very cool portion where your character was lost in the desert, and you just wandered around aimlessly as he got progressively worse for wear. They threw in some poetic narration over it, a few mirages and hallucinations, and it came out as a pretty powerful set of scenes. Gorgeous visuals, too.

Browse around, and you find a slew of people who HATED it for being "boring" (the whole scene takes all of 5 minutes by the way). Pretty easy to pin down what demographic it was that had a problem with it.

Still, I think that the average game still skews a little below my standards for maturity. Most just don't try to hit any deep or mature themes, have nuanced or complex dialogue, pose tough questions, etc. etc. Even games that we think of as having an awesome plot, or great dialogue, are still pretty simplistic and low brow when stacked up against other media.

They'll get there, just not quite yet.

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Still, I think that the average game still skews a little below my standards for maturity. Most just don't try to hit any deep or mature themes, have nuanced or complex dialogue, pose tough questions, etc. etc. Even games that we think of as having an awesome plot, or great dialogue, are still pretty simplistic and low brow when stacked up against other media.

One could argue that one of the most appealing aspects of playing games is to escape the confines of maturity.

If it's seriousness and maturity you're looking for, go read a book about project management strategy.
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Still, I think that the average game still skews a little below my standards for maturity. Most just don't try to hit any deep or mature themes, have nuanced or complex dialogue, pose tough questions, etc. etc. Even games that we think of as having an awesome plot, or great dialogue, are still pretty simplistic and low brow when stacked up against other media.

One could argue that one of the most appealing aspects of playing games is to escape the confines of maturity.

If it's seriousness and maturity you're looking for, go read a book about project management strategy.


I don't think mature = boring, so I'll pass on project management strategy, if that's all right. Smiley: smile

I'm with you on the rest: I think it's totally reasonable to want to play games as an immature release. But I think games should be just like books and movies: something for everyone. Immature or childrens' offerings are great, and I'd never want to see them go away. I'd just like to also see some more that hit at the other side of things.

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Still, I think that the average game still skews a little below my standards for maturity. Most just don't try to hit any deep or mature themes, have nuanced or complex dialogue, pose tough questions, etc. etc. Even games that we think of as having an awesome plot, or great dialogue, are still pretty simplistic and low brow when stacked up against other media.

One could argue that one of the most appealing aspects of playing games is to escape the confines of maturity.

If it's seriousness and maturity you're looking for, go read a book about project management strategy.

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Eske Esquire wrote:
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Still, I think that the average game still skews a little below my standards for maturity. Most just don't try to hit any deep or mature themes, have nuanced or complex dialogue, pose tough questions, etc. etc. Even games that we think of as having an awesome plot, or great dialogue, are still pretty simplistic and low brow when stacked up against other media.

One could argue that one of the most appealing aspects of playing games is to escape the confines of maturity.

If it's seriousness and maturity you're looking for, go read a book about project management strategy.


I don't think mature = boring, so I'll pass on project management strategy, if that's all right. Smiley: smile

I'm with you on the rest: I think it's totally reasonable to want to play games as an immature release. But I think games should be just like books and movies: something for everyone. Immature or childrens' offerings are great, and I'd never want to see them go away. I'd just like to also see some more that hit at the other side of things.

I don't think there's any great void of "mature" games. They just released a slew of them right before the holidays! Assassin's Creed: Revalations, Skyrim, Dead Space 2, etc. What about the numerous Half Life games? What about all of the Grand Theft Auto games?

What, exactly, do you consider "maturity" in video games?
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Still, I think that the average game still skews a little below my standards for maturity. Most just don't try to hit any deep or mature themes, have nuanced or complex dialogue, pose tough questions, etc. etc. Even games that we think of as having an awesome plot, or great dialogue, are still pretty simplistic and low brow when stacked up against other media.

One could argue that one of the most appealing aspects of playing games is to escape the confines of maturity.

If it's seriousness and maturity you're looking for, go read a book about project management strategy.


I don't think mature = boring, so I'll pass on project management strategy, if that's all right. Smiley: smile

I'm with you on the rest: I think it's totally reasonable to want to play games as an immature release. But I think games should be just like books and movies: something for everyone. Immature or childrens' offerings are great, and I'd never want to see them go away. I'd just like to also see some more that hit at the other side of things.

I don't think there's any great void of "mature" games. They just released a slew of them right before the holidays! Assassin's Creed: Revalations, Skyrim, Dead Space 2, etc. What about the numerous Half Life games? What about all of the Grand Theft Auto games?

What, exactly, do you consider "maturity" in video games?


I'm not using "mature" to mean games that are gratuitously sexual or violent (and thereby suitable only for adults), if that's why you brought up those examples. I mean mature as in, heady, or thoughtful, or deep...nuanced, subtle, etc. That kind of mature. Something a bit more academic, I guess. Most of games that you brought up don't really fit the bill for me, with maybe the exception of the first AC, Half Life, and maybe Dead Space 2 (I only played the first one).

I always describe it by saying that I'd love to see something like the Doubt of video games. Figuratively speaking, of course.

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Oh this one.

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I always describe it by saying that I'd love to see something like the Doubt of video games. Figuratively speaking, of course.

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I always describe it by saying that I'd love to see something like the Doubt of video games. Figuratively speaking, of course.

Edited, Jan 27th 2012 4:28pm by Eske


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I view mature games to be something that evokes a level of thinking that a child would struggle to grasp or even come to. Shadow of the Colossus, Beyond Good and Evil, and Final Fantasy (before they went to carp) promoted thinking. On the other hand Duke Nukem Forever, while labeled as a mature game, is closer to the immature side of things. While I like to think that most game should tell a story in a way that is not only engaging but also stimulates thinking I feel as though we, as gamers, should still embrace games that appeal to the simpler side of man (booze, boobs, and booms) without loosing sight that our medium is evolving and slowly moving into mainstream culture.

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I guess that would be things too old to be cool? Or not old enough to be cool?
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Parkour. It's a youngster's activity. It's for Russian teens who can throw themselves off of five-story buildings and survive in more or less one piece. Me, I may have the soul of a ten year old but I've got the body of a sixty year old. My cartilage is fusing solid. I have no right spending two hours in a gym, cavorting with a dozen children.


I'm in a back brace after Thursday's strength & conditioning session. Dead lifting is apparently the bane of my existence, what with my little T-Rex arms and my super long torso. Smiley: frown

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I love it. I love the bright rainbow colors, the cheesy designs, the cheesier stories, the scented stickers... It's like Hello Kitty on an acid trip.


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Parkour. It's a youngster's activity. It's for Russian teens who can throw themselves off of five-story buildings and survive in more or less one piece. Me, I may have the soul of a ten year old but I've got the body of a sixty year old. My cartilage is fusing solid. I have no right spending two hours in a gym, cavorting with a dozen children.


I'm in a back brace after Thursday's strength & conditioning session. Dead lifting is apparently the bane of my existence, what with my little T-Rex arms and my super long torso. Smiley: frown

Oh, I don't lift - at least, not weights. Other than bodyweight exercises, any lifting I do is when I'm cutting wood. This was gymnastics work.

And my back is literally fusing solid - ankylosing spondilytis is attacking all the cartilage, and my ribcage now has difficulty opening and closing when I breathe.
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Parkour. It's a youngster's activity. It's for Russian teens who can throw themselves off of five-story buildings and survive in more or less one piece. Me, I may have the soul of a ten year old but I've got the body of a sixty year old. My cartilage is fusing solid. I have no right spending two hours in a gym, cavorting with a dozen children.


I'm in a back brace after Thursday's strength & conditioning session. Dead lifting is apparently the bane of my existence, what with my little T-Rex arms and my super long torso. Smiley: frown

Oh, I don't lift - at least, not weights. Other than bodyweight exercises, any lifting I do is when I'm cutting wood. This was gymnastics work.

And my back is literally fusing solid - ankylosing spondilytis is attacking all the cartilage, and my ribcage now has difficulty opening and closing when I breathe.
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Durr? I assume that's something related to the spondilytis. I haven't gotten all the bloodwork and stuff done; I need to see a rheumatologist and haven't had the opportunity.
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I am totally with you on that. When I first heard they were making a video game based on Dante's Inferno, I got so excited. Then I played the demo and was brought back down to earth... I think that's part of the appeal of SW:TOR for me. There are a lot of interesting ethical choices while you're out questing, and unless you're just breezing through and plan to go all light side or all dark side, you usually need to stop and think for at least a few seconds, before you make up your mind. Still, it'd be nice if they'd make some "regular" video games that made you think.

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#44 Jan 30 2012 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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#45 Jan 30 2012 at 8:41 AM Rating: Good
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Magic The Gathering.
While I really loved that game, I don't think it was ever even remotely cool.
It was really popular around here at one time.
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#46 Jan 30 2012 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
I'm actually just getting into Magic. My primary's little brother taught him to play a couple years back, and he's really gotten into it. I resisted learning until a few months back because I tried it once with an ex years ago, and didn't like it then. In an effort to try and find more things we could do together, I relented to let him teach me and I actually really enjoy it. Maybe my ex was just a **** teacher. Smiley: grin
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#47 Jan 30 2012 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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I played Magic for a few years, but gave it all up and sold my collection some fifteen years ago.

Then I took an arrow to the knee.
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I played it for 10 years and I still have my collection somewhere, I really need to go and scan the expensive cards and sell them, it'd probably get me a couple hundred bucks...
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#49 Jan 31 2012 at 2:37 AM Rating: Good
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I played Magic years ago; I think 4th edition had just come out. I thought about getting back into it last year, but decided against it when I learned that cards were only playable for a year.
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#50 Jan 31 2012 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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I played Magic years ago; I think 4th edition had just come out. I thought about getting back into it last year, but decided against it when I learned that cards were only playable for a year.
That's just for T2 tournaments.
You've got T2 tournaments with just the cards from the last year, the cheapest and most common tournaments (stuff like Friday Night Magic), then there's Extended which is the last 3 or 4 years, then T1.5/Legacy which are all cards but with stuff like Black Lotus and Moxes banned and finally there's T1/Vintage where the cards that are banned in Legacy are limited to 1 per deck. Sadly you can't find many people who play Legacy or Vintage decks because those decks often require over $1000 worth of cards (and Vintage can run up to triple that) while a top end T2 deck is "only" worth about $2-300 or so.
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#51 Jan 31 2012 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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Aethien wrote:
That's just for T2 tournaments.
You've got T2 tournaments with just the cards from the last year, the cheapest and most common tournaments (stuff like Friday Night Magic), then there's Extended which is the last 3 or 4 years, then T1.5/Legacy which are all cards but with stuff like Black Lotus and Moxes banned and finally there's T1/Vintage where the cards that are banned in Legacy are limited to 1 per deck. Sadly you can't find many people who play Legacy or Vintage decks because those decks often require over $1000 worth of cards (and Vintage can run up to triple that) while a top end T2 deck is "only" worth about $2-300 or so.


What really bothered me was the thought that certain cards weren't allowed any more. When I played, everyone used dual-lands and four Serra Angels: wealthier folks had Mox and Black Lotus cards in the mix. The only cards that weren't allowed in tournaments or normal play were the ante cards.

I guess I just dislike the thought of creativity being hampered by limitations on cards. Imagine the decks people could make if they were allowed any card ever made in regular tournament play.
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