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#1 Jan 25 2012 at 12:17 AM Rating: Default
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Is this what you are waiting for? Is this what we want? Is Varus leaving that important? Better yet let's talk about who we'd sleep with if we were ***. No wait! I have it. Let's talk about how bad it is that a GOP candidate doesn't care if US soldiers **** on the rotting corpses of their enemies after losing some comrades, or a senator that misses a vote for refusing the follow the same rules as everyone else.

oh yeah and here's a picture of my ****.


Seriously though... no thread about State of the Union? I am disappoint.
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#2 Jan 25 2012 at 12:18 AM Rating: Good
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I was actually at the gym for once, and didn't get a chance to watch it. I'll probably look for a synopsis later.
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#3 Jan 25 2012 at 6:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Seriously though... no thread about State of the Union?
I had more important things to do.
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#4 Jan 25 2012 at 7:01 AM Rating: Good
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I heard a bit on the radio on my way home. Strong rhetoric aimed at Republicans stymying reform. A defense of tax reform, and an assertion that it's "common sense", not "class warfare".

Pretty standard stuff, from the 10 min. or so that I picked up. Seemed like he was orating well, per usual.
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#5 Jan 25 2012 at 7:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Seriously though... no thread about State of the Union?
Isn't this it?

I heard nothing terribly jaw-dropping or earth-shattering. Over-all it was a pretty tame speech. Apparently Biden has developed some trick to keep his eyes open, so the camera seemed to change it's target to Hillary to catch her nodding off. She was pretty close a couple times. There must be some kind of android app that alerts them to 'look alive' when necessary.

I think Obama said about what was expected concerning the economy. Taxing the rich more taxing domestic employers less sounds peachy..... Smiley: wink

I was a bit disappointed that Obama put so much emphasis on natural gas. I liked that he seemed to attempt to make some sort of sense out of our actions in the middle east, though I think there was far too much optimism concerning his comments about Afghanistan.

He seemed to almost snub the tea-partiers conviction with taunts of financial help to contracting businesses and homeowners. He essentially dismissed their claims of big and growing government while still assuring others that red-tape would be dealt with.

30% tax rate for millionaires and the tough talk about equity certainly scores with the OWS crowd. It would be interesting to see him stay in office and actually attempt to make it happen.



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#6 Jan 25 2012 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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Standard run of the mill election year speech™.
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I love your president. He is the smartest, most down to earth political leader I have ever seen. He looks at a problem and says "what's all the fuss about, just do this, it's simple" real solutions to what would be simple problems if politicians could pull their heads out of their asses so they could see.

That being said. That whole speech was an hour and 15 minute campaign ad. I agreed with all of it (as much as a non-American can) but it pretty obvious what it was all about.
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Apparently Biden has developed some trick to keep his eyes open, so the camera seemed to change it's target to Hillary to catch her nodding off.

Don't forget Boehner's constant eye-rolling and stone-faced Cantor Smiley: laugh

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I was a bit disappointed that Obama put so much emphasis on natural gas.

Conversely, I'm a proponent of natural gas so I was happy to hear it.

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That being said. That whole speech was an hour and 15 minute campaign ad. I agreed with all of it (as much as a non-American can) but it pretty obvious what it was all about.

Well, not much sense is laying out an agenda you expect the GOP to help with. They have a vested interest in making sure the US is as run-down as possible in 2012*. Might as well run with the bully pulpit approach.

*GOP SotU response paraphrased: "Don't listen to him. You're all miserable and down-trodden and will soon be living in caves and holes. Vote Romney!"
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*GOP SotU response paraphrased: "Don't listen to him. You're all miserable and down-trodden and will soon be living in caves and holes. Vote Romney!"


I did find it funny that as soon as this graphic started making its rounds online, conservative blogs started up with "Well, that's not really what the job numbers are! Using our own arbitrary rates, the unemployment is like 11.4%!"

I just kinda grin and go "yup, no bias there."
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#10 Jan 25 2012 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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That being said. That whole speech was an hour and 15 minute campaign ad.


I knew there was a reason I didn't watch it, and this would be it.
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#11 Jan 25 2012 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't even know it was on, but probably wouldn't have watched it anyway. I usually like reviewing clips afterwards, and if some motivated fella was to edit the speech to take out all the applause breaks, I'd be more inclined to watch. Those kill me, seems like they do it about every time he has to take a breath. Too many interruptions.

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I didn't even know it was on, but probably wouldn't have watched it anyway. I usually like reviewing clips afterwards, and if some motivated fella was to edit the speech to take out all the applause breaks, I'd be more inclined to watch. Those kill me, seems like they do it about every time he has to take a breath. Too many interruptions.

Yeah, I'm pitiful, I know.


Nah, that's reasonable. The applause breaks are obnoxious. They don't even applaud when he makes a particularly salient point (I suppose because there's no apparent benefit to weighing in on stuff that isn't necessarily safe). He'd make a nice remark about something contentious or forward-thinking, and they'd sit in dumb silence. Then he'd follow it up with something along the lines of "...Because that's what America values: hard work!" and everyone falls over themselves to applaud.
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I was a little surprised that he didn't explicitly mention Rep. Giffords or Senator Kirk last night. I'm sure he has reached out to both privately but expected to hear something in the SotU if only in the opening remarks.
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#14 Jan 25 2012 at 11:53 AM Rating: Default
Yeah, the SotU would probably be half as long every year if they'd just make a no applause rule like they do in debates. Not that that is always followed, but they're interrupted a lot less.

I missed most of it because I didn't know what time it was starting and I was making myself dinner, but I caught the last 20 minutes or so. I was kind of irritated at him claiming that we are strong as a country right now. Um, no we're not. We're getting better, sure. But I wouldn't claim that we're strong at the moment. That said, the GOP response was rather obnoxious too.
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I was kind of irritated at him claiming that we are strong as a country right now.
Never been outside your own borders, eh?
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You're not in the recession that Europe is, or is about to be, in.

Then again, you don't have a Greek albatross about your neck.
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#18PigtailsOfDoom, Posted: Jan 25 2012 at 1:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't see strong as being a relative term. Just because we're doing better than other countries right now, doesn't make us strong.
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Just because we're doing better than other countries right now, doesn't make us strong.
AQctually, it does. And you've bene doing better than jsut about every country for a lot longer than "right now".
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I was kind of irritated at him claiming that we are strong as a country right now.
Never been outside your own borders, eh?


I don't see strong as being a relative term. Just because we're doing better than other countries right now, doesn't make us strong.



It's always a relative term. Always.
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I have got to get this stupid spell check working again. These typos are terrible.
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I have got to get this stupid spell check working again. These typos are terrible.

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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
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I was kind of irritated at him claiming that we are strong as a country right now.
Never been outside your own borders, eh?


I don't see strong as being a relative term. Just because we're doing better than other countries right now, doesn't make us strong.



It's always a relative term. Always.


What Joph said.

Also, if there is a "wake up!" app, that would explain Biden checking his phone during the speech. I assumed he was playing Angry Birds.

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