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#77 Jan 19 2012 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
How do you not know that Ari is female?
#78 Jan 19 2012 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I keep forgetting if I'm female, or gay.
#79 Jan 19 2012 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
Ari is actually the straightest person I know.
#80 Jan 19 2012 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
I may not have been quite the fan of BT that everyone else is (mostly, I thought he was a melodramatic douchebag), but it would be hard to deny he had a few bright moments, especially since my zam.com moniker is forever linked to one of his more amusing stories.
#81 Jan 19 2012 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Poor Brown Duck Smiley: lol


oh NO WAI!

How's this for crazy stalker chic:
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Edited, Jan 19th 2012 5:09pm by Aripyanfar
#82 Jan 19 2012 at 4:51 PM Rating: Good
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
How do you not know that Ari is female?


/shrug

Wasn't in my notes I guess.
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#83 Jan 20 2012 at 12:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Regarding Barkingturtle's ban, Guenny is essentually correct. The thread in question was this "Wed Feb 9 19:22:12 2011 [Kaolian]: Banned for this post. https://everquest.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4&mid=1297199847276642703&page=3&howmany=50#msg1297262092227302410 "

Regarding Varus, He was presented an option for being unbanned, he chose not to avail himself of it as of now.

Regarding slowness in the forum, its always a little slow in the holliday season typically, it should pick up here around mid february if past indications are any guide. Both Asylum and OOT lack sufficient good content generators. Their is sufficient population to reply to threads and keep them going, and there aren't many that I would consider detremental thread creators, but there aren't enough to keep that gestalt going. As i've mentioned before, I have hangups about seeing too many posts by me as an admin on the front page that I never had as a user, though I've also posted my share of annoying threads so that may be a good thing. We have the lurker count, we have a small, but significant active population that is active in both forums, so merging OOT and Asylum at this time probably wouldn't help, and it would be hard to spell AOOTsylum. Whatever else you say about Varus, he created alot of threads.

Part of the thread creation problem stems from the forum longevity. thouse of us who have been here a particularily long time have seen most of the standard classic threads multiple times. We get in ruts, and it becomes hard to think of things that havent been done, when in reality it doesn't really matter because there has been so much time between them. New posters seem to subconsiously have the opposite problem. They seem reluctant to post threads potentially because they are worried that they have all been done before. Thats one of the reasons this place runs so heavy to news and politic discussions these days.

There are a few core thread types:
User interaction game / quiz / entertainment threads - These range from the Weekend update threads, to quizpolls of doom and back again. LAST, Continue the story. End of the year Forum awards, etc. They tend to be quite popular, but also take effort to set up, and they can get overused and repetitive really quickly. Thats mainly what happened here. People took LAST too far, and annoyed a bunch of other people who aren't even here anymore, and they slowly trickled off.

Flame threads - The core "us vs. them" mentality of the 3 or 4 different factions that once dominated the Asylum isn't there anymore. Most of the posters who have been here longer are older now than we were, some of us (present author excepted of course) have matured somewhat. We've also several of us met one another now. It's hard to build a good mad at someone you have shared a good meal with. Plus there is the need for new blood in here, so people have toned it down a little over the years to try and help aquire new users. Or maybe they just got bored. I dunno. There isn't the underlaying remnants of spectacular guild implosions to drive anything anymore. Also, the troublemakers go away sometimes quicker than they did before, which dampens things a bit.

Politics / news / discussion threads - These we have plenty of, but they only go so far as relevance remains. Some last longer than others.

Random wackyness threads - Many of these were me before I was an admin. There are still some in the OOT, but they tend to go in different directions than the Asylum is used to historically. It's hard to pull off without annoying the crap out of everyone.

Of those thread types, we really only see one of them in quantity anymore. There is definitly oppertunity for new threads more often. People need to really consider that New Content, even if it doesn't go the way they plan, is still new content. If its annoying, people will thread jack it into something else quickly enough.

Whatever else you think about the rest of the site design, the recent forum upgrades seem to have been popular, and our view numbers are up. There are more people watching what we post at any given time, we just need to convince more of those lurkers to start posting. As much crap as people get for ever suggesting other forums come in here, recruitment threads are probably exactly what this place needs to be honest. I dunno. I'm open to ideas if anyone has any.
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#84 Jan 20 2012 at 12:24 AM Rating: Good
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Regarding Varus, He was presented an option for being unbanned, he chose not to avail himself of it as of now.


Personally, I don't understand why you keep giving him chances, but that's just me.
#85 Jan 20 2012 at 12:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Regarding Varus, He was presented an option for being unbanned, he chose not to avail himself of it as of now.


Personally, I don't understand why you keep giving him chances, but that's just me.


Mainly, because it is the asylum, and he confined his posting here. Despite appearances to the contrary, I do tend to give people many chances before they are banned usually. Probably too many to be honest. But I also try to balance the fact that what I find offensive other people may find entertaining in here, to a certain degree. There are several examples of posters I regret not banning sooner. There are few if any I feel I banned too quickly and didn't give a chance, so you can see the direction I at least try to err in. Then there is the whole moderation by committee aspect of it, which due to certain changes a while back is somewhat lessened, but things could tend to get somewhat confusing at times when comparing moderation. Thats one of the reasons the forum rules came into play. Of course, a secret Cabel of Asylumites (the Asyluminati) helped craft them too. but thats secret and you can't know about that! so pretend I didn't write that last bit, and this post is now about waffles!
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#86 Jan 20 2012 at 1:41 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Regarding slowness in the forum ...Whatever else you say about Varus, he created alot of threads.

A little direction like this helps a lot.

I'd prefer to see a more active forum, but without sufficient information it's ahrd ot know what the issue is. I assumed it was the dwindling regulars, but if there are sufficient posters and lurkers as you say, then clearly we need a shift in content generation.
#87 Jan 20 2012 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
That thread is freaking epic. That's going to entertain me for hours.
#88 Jan 20 2012 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Regarding slowness in the forum ...Whatever else you say about Varus, he created alot of threads.

A little direction like this helps a lot.

I'd prefer to see a more active forum, but without sufficient information it's ahrd ot know what the issue is. I assumed it was the dwindling regulars, but if there are sufficient posters and lurkers as you say, then clearly we need a shift in content generation.


It's kind of counterintuitive, but threads definitly bring more people. You can have hundreds of posters in a forum, but if no one is making new threads, the forum gets stagnant and you lose your people. You need to have a solid core of people to begin with, but from there, population follows content. The game forums are particularily susceptible to running into this. Once a game ages to a certain point, its hard to keep making interesting threads about it, even if they are still updating it. All it takes is a major japanese earthquake to shut the servers down for a while, then suddenly you lose a third of the forum population.

There is definitly a balance required. Too many new threads, especially by one person tend to be offputting. The effect actually has a scientific name in the asylum, as the "Katielynn Effect". Too few is even worse though. And that number is a variable based on population of the forum and on the person doing the posting, so its hard to find the right balance sometimes.
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#89 Jan 20 2012 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:

There is definitly a balance required. Too many new threads, especially by one person tend to be offputting. The effect actually has a scientific name in the asylum, as the "Katielynn Effect".


Smiley: lol
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#90 Jan 20 2012 at 6:15 PM Rating: Good
Oh gods I remember her... I can't really say too much about her though, since the time I popped in here back in 2005 I was pretty much clueless and had no idea what the atmosphere here entailed. No one was very nice to me and I quickly departed. I pretty much deserved it though. And I still have the PM from Kao telling me so after I whined to him about being karma-bombed. Smiley: grin
#91 Jan 20 2012 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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#92 Jan 20 2012 at 8:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you beleive Ari's timeline and story, than BT pulled off the ultimante troll on the Asylum.



BT is Keyser Soze.

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#93 Jan 20 2012 at 8:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Kechup is the reason I realised how brilliant Samira is.



Wait, what? I don't remember this.

Also I like stories about how brilliant I am, since I'm clearly too brilliant to remember, myself.

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#94 Jan 20 2012 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
Samira wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
If you beleive Ari's timeline and story, than BT pulled off the ultimante troll on the Asylum.


BT is Keyser Soze.


Probably the result of a serendipitous blend of booze and ketamine.

BT did do ketamine, right? He must have had some to hand, what with all those dogs.
#95 Jan 20 2012 at 9:43 PM Rating: Decent
Convincing lurkers to post moar is as simple as making occasional sad panda threads about the dwindling population such as this one (though im sure there was a skype or something about this exact plan... :tinfoilhat:) I suppose I could make an attempt to join in on the conversation, but i have a feeling im going to end up posting a la lolgaxe, only with FAR lower quality.
#96 Jan 23 2012 at 1:52 PM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
I expected more from the big, bad Asylum.


Forum =4 is a rotting corpse that only appears to be alive because of the squirming of the =28 maggots that it is infested with.


GFY

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#97 Jan 23 2012 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
I expected more from the big, bad Asylum.


Forum =4 is a rotting corpse that only appears to be alive because of the squirming of the =28 maggots that it is infested with.


GFY

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#98 Jan 24 2012 at 3:03 AM Rating: Good
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Belkira wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Regarding Varus, He was presented an option for being unbanned, he chose not to avail himself of it as of now.


Personally, I don't understand why you keep giving him chances, but that's just me.


Mainly, because it is the asylum, and he confined his posting here. Despite appearances to the contrary, I do tend to give people many chances before they are banned usually. Probably too many to be honest. But I also try to balance the fact that what I find offensive other people may find entertaining in here, to a certain degree. There are several examples of posters I regret not banning sooner. There are few if any I feel I banned too quickly and didn't give a chance, so you can see the direction I at least try to err in.


I still don't understand why you keep letting Varus back in, but Dracoid got a perma-ban. I think it was part of your plan to slowly drive away Nobby.
#99 Jan 24 2012 at 7:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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#100 Jan 24 2012 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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afaik Dracoid was at the stage of his schooling career when grades were critical, and he just wasn't doing enough homework. Self policing wasn't working. Allakazham was his main distraction, so he went out of his way to burn his Alla bridge to little black smoodgy bits in the stratosphere. Nobby mostly left when he landed a freaking hot babe.

Edited, Jan 24th 2012 1:33pm by Aripyanfar
#101 Jan 24 2012 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm amused that I keep seeing Varus on the recent visitors list. Even 'banned', he can't quit us Smiley: inlove
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