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#52 Jan 18 2012 at 6:29 PM Rating: Excellent
Well it just goes to show you that the people who don't know about SOPA/PIPA are the scum of the barrel. Or whatever the phrase is.
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#53 Jan 18 2012 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently the way to get people involved in government is to threaten their ability to download "Game of Thrones" at will.
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#54 Jan 18 2012 at 6:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Anybody want to explain in real people words what this SOPA thing is all about? I would just Wikipedia it but it is shut down.
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#55 Jan 18 2012 at 6:45 PM Rating: Good
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That one looks like what happens when a website fucks up loading on my smartphone.
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#58 Jan 18 2012 at 7:03 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, I had no idea so many people used lolwiki. The only time I ever look at it is when of you clowns links something.
#59 Jan 18 2012 at 7:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I end up using it a lot, actually. Not for the important stuff, although even there it's a neat place to find actual sources.

Usually, though, I use it when I can't remember the difference between a jaguar and a leopard, or that guy's name that was in the Beatles before Ringo, or any of the other million idle questions that nag at me in the course of a day.

Could be worse. I could be washing my hands until they bleed, I guess.

Edit: and/or, same-same.

Edited, Jan 18th 2012 5:25pm by Samira
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I don't use Twitter, but one of my friends who does posted this link of people who have no idea what is going on. It's pretty funny, but sad at the same time.

Looking at that feed it's quite funny at all the people losing their shit who don't know how to actually look things up other than using wikipedia. Smiley: laugh
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#62 Jan 18 2012 at 7:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't use Twitter, but one of my friends who does posted this link of people who have no idea what is going on. It's pretty funny, but sad at the same time.

Looking at that feed it's quite funny at all the people losing their shit who don't know how to actually look things up other than using wikipedia. Smiley: laugh


Indeed. I can sort of understand the girl who complained about google being down, if it had actually been down... All it did was put a black banner over the logo, you could still use it. Even if it had been down, there are other search engines.
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#64 Jan 18 2012 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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I love how this issue went from a very limited exposure in the US for months to congress pooping their pants thinking of a reason why they need to listen to their constituents and oppose the bill in the matter of hours.
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#65 Jan 18 2012 at 9:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, it makes the powerful nervous when the weak remember to talk to each other.

I don't think I visited one site today that didn't at least mention SOPA. And for the most part those were very staid research sites. Not exactly hotbeds of radical thought. The news sites, sure, I expected them to report on it (although I had my doubts, considering the chain of ownership of some of them).

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So Darrell Issa introduced his own version of these bills, which is called OPEN. Rather than grant powers to the judicial department to go after copyright, it gives it to the International Trade Commission instead.

The media industry says the bill is too weak to be effective.

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The Copyright Alliance, for example, has said that the bill offers no relief to independent content creators battling online piracy from foreign Web sites. The alliance, which includes NBCUniversal, the National Association of Broadcasters, Viacom, Disney, Time Warner, Sony, News Corp., various guilds and a host of other publishers and artist associations, was blunt in its critique. It said the bill was impractical for artists, had ineffective penalties, provided an insurmountable burden of proof of infringement, gave the ITC inefficient resources, and had no Justice Department enforcement.


Honestly, the burden of proof needs to be high. And the punishment for reporting content as infringing when it is actually legal under Fair Use needs to be harsh, to the tune of a hefty monetary penalty for wasting taxpayer resources for a false investigation.
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#67 Jan 19 2012 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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So yeah, stuff like this will become more commonplace, huh?.
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#68 Jan 19 2012 at 5:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah totally nuts, especially considering that there ARE users of that service who post their own material... yes, lots of stuff is pirated but seems a little heavy handed to shut paying customers off of a service without any proof they are using it for illegal means.

Crazy. Seriously, this stuff makes me hate the motion picture industry so much that I want to be sure they don't get a single cent from me.

Also lol at their totally bogus numbers. $500 million? Yeah, cause every person that downloaded a film would have paid 20 bucks to buy the DVD if it hadn't been available to pirate, amirite?

I'm really looking forward to hearing from content creators who used that site to promote their own material on this issue.

I mean this was just posted last month:

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In a 4 minute track produced by Printz Board, P Diddy, Will.i.am, Alicia Keys, Kanye West, Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown, The Game, Mary J Blige , Kim Kardashian, Floyd Mayweather, Jamie Foxx and more sing about how wonderful Megaupload is.

“When I got to send files across the globe, I use Megaupload,” declares Will.i.am, an artist signed to labels owned by RIAA-members Warner and Universal.

“When i’m sending my hits out I use Megaupload, ‘cos it’s fast. I can receive hits and I can send ‘em out,” declares P Diddy, an artist signed to Interscope, a label owned by Universal.

Kanye West, signed to Universal-owned Def Jam, likes to use Megaupload “…because it’s the fastest and safest way to send files – period.”

Alicia Keys, who is signed to Sony-owned RCA, says she uses Megaupload “….because I know that I can get my music safely and quickly -and you know that i’m serious about my music.”

Snoop Dogg, signed to EMI-owned Priority, uses it “…because it keeps the kids off the street,” and The Game (Universal) says that even his lawyers know he uses it, “…and I got plenty of them.”


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#69 Jan 19 2012 at 5:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Something I find disturbing is the fact that any website ending in .com or .net falls under US jurisdiction. Meaning the US can essentially prosecute any citizen from any sovereign nation around the world.

A British student recently lost a case here, forcing him to be extradited to the US (he's never set foot there) to facce charges from breaking US Copyright Law for setting up a torrent site (that used non-American servers) because any domain name ending in .com or .net are US jurisdiction.
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#70 Jan 19 2012 at 5:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Wow, that is really messed up.

Out of curiosity though, if the site was set up in the UK and used non-American servers, how did they get a US web domain?
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#72 Jan 19 2012 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
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No idea, here's the article.
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#73 Jan 19 2012 at 11:11 PM Rating: Excellent
I don't really get legally what he did wrong. He did not provide the copyrighted material. He made money off of ad revenue, not the material itself. How does that violate copyright laws?
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#74 Jan 19 2012 at 11:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't know - something smells here. That's for sure. And you would think your government has better things to do that this. I mean crikes - look what the folks on wall street did - and they are laughing all the way to the bank.
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#75 Jan 20 2012 at 1:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't really get legally what he did wrong. He did not provide the copyrighted material. He made money off of ad revenue, not the material itself. How does that violate copyright laws?


He played gatekeeper to the content in a way. Torrents are kept in the cloud, as they say, so the content isn't really hosted by any one entity. What he did was provide a place where that content could be accessed.

The ad revenue is a base to show monetary gain, since ad revenue is generated by traffic and the site wasn't offering any other product or service.

One problem is that Hollywood has their hands deep in the government's pocket and because of that they have been given an excessive amount of leeway and power. The other problem is that Hollywood abuses that power for it's own personal gain with no thought to the fallout of the crap they push. Hollywood has already beat the **** out of free speech and fair use, SOPA and PIPA are really just extensions by which to enforce the DMCA.


MegaUpload is a perfect example. MU is a file hosting site, nothing more. They have no clue what is contained in the vast majority of files being hosted. But since some of those files are pirated material, they got taken down. What about all of the paying customers who have been using MU legitimately? Ignoring the fact that they have paid for a service that they are no longer getting, what happens to all of the content they had uploaded?

How many businesses use MU as a FTP service (25% of business traffic is to MU based on an article I recently read)? How many families use MU to store photo albums and home movies to share with friends and family? How many people use MU for file backup? How many of those people just lost everything because they thought storing everything online was the safe thing to do?
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