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So did you write Canada's prostitution laws?

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2012/01/should-canadas-prostitution-laws-be-amended.html

Quote:

While prostitution itself is technically legal, there are provisions against nearly every activity associated with it.

Everything has become so much clearer

Also I love the term "technically legal"



Edited, Jan 21st 2012 4:13pm by Olorinus

Have to invite others to give them access to your uploads.

That's the point. I was very unimpressed with your argument.

One problem is that you're trying to boil away the enforcement mechanisms from the equation. This allows you to claim that the government is not enforcing the protections it has given, when in truth this can only sanely be used to describe a situation where the government is wilfully not prosecuting people found in breach. These mechanisms are part, and a limitation of, the extent of protections given, which are being enforced.

From here you argue that because the government has undertaken to protect something, there is an imperative to protect it to a greater degree. This is cast as a general principle of law. You say later a criticism of your position is vulnerable to excluded middle, so obviously this threshold you're setting isn't absolute protection.

So what is this thereshold, then? If it's a reasonable threshold it's certainly incorrect, even if we accept your principle, to exclude the difficulties of enforcement or the fact that those unprotected can easily protect themselves. If this is the threshold, then you're simply recasting the debate in a profoundly unhelpful way, because anyone on the other side will say the current legal threshold is, all things conisdered, reasonable, and you will say the opposite. It follows that your suggested principle is unhelpful.

Presumably, then, the standard is of the nebulous concept of effectiveness. Now, if this is different from the reasonable standard, it is unreasonable. If it is the same, then there's no point following whatever methodology you have in mind to determine it when we can simply do the old balancing excercise of reasonableness, which ahs no chance of leading us astray.

How is telling Megaupload or other sites to change their business model, or shutting down completely, any better?

John Stewart Broke it down nicely.

I woulda linked to youtube, but since it's illegal to upload TDS to youtube all the videos of the video linked in the article that are on youtube are actually bootlegs of it via video camera.

Damn you Viacom!

yeah, and cause of the dumb streaming restrictions I noted, I can't watch the video. Way to go internets. Clearly the whole entertainment industry would go broke if I could watch a video my friends in america linked to me.



Yeah, the business model where they don't care if Americans watch it free but everyone else in the world needs to dig around for a bootleg so they can get the joke that their american friends are talking about?

The business model where I google "Daily show viacom free" and their supposed website doesn't even show up. MAN THEY ARE SO GOOD AT THE INTERNET.

So, now if I went and downloaded that clip you all watched for free - Viacom is losing money?

If they are losing money cause I am not watching ads or something - isn't it their business model (streaming only to americans) that is the problem? Wouldn't it be easy to solve by removing streaming restrictions?

Or should we just take down the whole internet because people want to talk to each other across borders and might want to watch the daily show even if they are in Libya or UAE or China or India?

Edited, Jan 22nd 2012 10:11am by Olorinus

You don't see it as a poor business model to give 200 million+ people your content for free - and then get mad when everyone else on earth wants the same deal? They're the ones who have lowered the marginal value so much that almost no one is going to say "hey bob across the border got this whole episode for free - I guess I'll pay 8 bucks for it"

Also, they're the ones with the deal with providers up here - why would it be up to me to negotiate with Canadian cable providers about this stuff? This is easy. They know where I live - give a cut of ad revenue to whichever licensee holds Canadian rights.

Making me dig it up on another website - rather than letting me watch the clip my American friend links me to - is **** backwards - unless there is a link in the video where it says "sorry yer not american can't watch this" to the Canadian stream. That's also fine.

This goes back to how these content providers aren't trying hard enough. Don't make the customer jump through hoops to give you money. Make it the path of least resistance.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2012 10:27am by Olorinus

The comedy network is the right holder for The Daily show in Canada. You can stream episodes for free on thecomedynetwork.ca

Which is why they have recaptured a majority of the traffic (and thus ad revenue) from the US which previously would have gone to YouTube.

The complaint here is for foreign viewers for whom they don't have ad contracts.

Learn to put a tiny script that redirects CA users to their affiliate, thus recapturing lost revenue, due to customers not knowing that the service is offered?

Yeah that sounds like something easy they could do to make more money.

Me? No, I'm not complaining about it not being availiable on YouTube. You must have gotten me confused with someone else in your old age.

What I was saying was that more corps should do stuff like this and they will have similar success rather than rely on an expensive big stick. They could perhaps even collaborate to some level to further reduce distro costs.

You somehow conflate me suggesting ways corps could be more effective with crying about Viacom. I'm only complaining about Viacom when they want me to subsidize an overpriced war on piracy rather than make simple changes that will solve the majority of their supposed problems. I honestly don't get what your upset about here. Again, I'll just attribute the confusion and crankiness to your advanced years. But since I'm a nice guy, I'll refer you to Nobby, I hear he has found pharmaceutical solutions to these issues you're experiencing.

It should be noted that my "Damn You Viacom!" comment was made to point out the irony in the fact that it's already free (At least in the US, but when have us Americans gave a sh*t about the rest of the world? watchseries.eu has TDS for free internationally, btw. Megaupload be down, but videoweed still works) but people are bootlegging it & uploading it anyway.

Considering Stewart even tells the audience NOT to upload it to youtube in the episode itself made the comment a bit meta too...

But like all good things, you guys ruined it. I hope you're all proud of yourselves.

Harumph.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2012 3:20pm by Omegavegeta