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#202 Dec 14 2011 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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If I have to throw myself under the bus... I would gladly do it
Now, don't be makin' promises you won't keep


someone hit that green arrow for me please.


Sure. Now to maintain the balance...
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#203 Dec 14 2011 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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If I have to throw myself under the bus... I would gladly do it
Now, don't be makin' promises you won't keep


someone hit that green arrow for me please.


Unfortunately, I did it for myself.
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#204 Dec 14 2011 at 5:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pointing out that someone has a problem is not a display of lacking Love.
(and where did I say that I was better than anyone?)
If your children were playing in the street you get them out of the street and they cry about it and accuse you of not loving them. If they keep going into the street you have be more harsh for them to get the message. It is not from lack of Love; quite the contrary.

So now we know that people that like unorthodox sex = five year old children that don't know any better than to get out of the street.
#205 Dec 14 2011 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pointing out that someone has a problem is not a display of lacking Love.
(and where did I say that I was better than anyone?)
If your children were playing in the street you get them out of the street and they cry about it and accuse you of not loving them. If they keep going into the street you have be more harsh for them to get the message. It is not from lack of Love; quite the contrary.

So now we know that people that like unorthodox sex = five year old children that don't know any better than to get out of the street.
To be fair, that's kind of what the flavor of Christianity he prefers knows to be the Truth tells him about people in general
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#206 Dec 14 2011 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
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I suppose they had to get something right.
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I suppose they had to get something right.
I like it because it means I get to call him an idiot with his god's blessing.
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#208 Dec 14 2011 at 7:50 PM Rating: Good
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What's also nice is that he just approved violent gender policing/queer bashing.

I mean, we didn't listen when they told us no. The obvious answer is to become more harsh, so we get the message.

@#%^ing idiot.
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#209 Dec 14 2011 at 8:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu wrote:
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Pointing out that someone has a problem is not a display of lacking Love.
(and where did I say that I was better than anyone?)
If your children were playing in the street you get them out of the street and they cry about it and accuse you of not loving them. If they keep going into the street you have be more harsh for them to get the message. It is not from lack of Love; quite the contrary.

So now we know that people that like unorthodox sex = five year old children that don't know any better than to get out of the street.


Well, I kind of assume that any five year olds having sex with anyone would be considered unorthodox.
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#210 Dec 14 2011 at 9:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Made the wrong joke.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 10:04pm by Spoonless
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Bijou you are VERY trying. Not a trying as Gbaji and compared to varus you are one of the saints on earth. As you age you may no longer be trying.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I'm not sure but that may make the Nazarene a switch.


Each Gospel was written at a different time period in the development of Christianity and had different audiences and social groups in mind. That is why one can find Jesus as a militant and a non violent teacher.
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#212 Dec 14 2011 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
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Wait, where is Jesus militant in the bible? Unless we are including the Apocrypha, I don't remember anything deserving the term.
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#213 Dec 15 2011 at 1:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Bijou you are VERY trying. Not a trying as Gbaji and compared to varus you are one of the saints on earth. As you age you may no longer be trying.

Wait...is Jonwin being mean here? I can't tell.

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Wait, where is Jesus militant in the bible? Unless we are including the Apocrypha, I don't remember anything deserving the term.
The whole "clearing the moneylenders out of the temple" was pretty Chuck Noriss-y.Smiley: nod
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Bijou you are VERY trying. Not a trying as Gbaji and compared to varus you are one of the saints on earth. As you age you may no longer be trying.

Wait...is Jonwin being mean here? I can't tell.

idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Wait, where is Jesus militant in the bible? Unless we are including the Apocrypha, I don't remember anything deserving the term.
The whole "clearing the moneylenders out of the temple" was pretty Chuck Noriss-y.Smiley: nod


"If you have a spare coat sell it and buy a dagger" thats the only other one I can recall from sunday school. I can't even remember exactly were that is in the bible.
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Bijou you are VERY trying. Not a trying as Gbaji and compared to varus you are one of the saints on earth. As you age you may no longer be trying.

Wait...is Jonwin being mean here? I can't tell.

I thought he was confusing you and Kelvy somehow. Maybe he's been into Elne's drugs.
#216 Dec 15 2011 at 6:25 AM Rating: Decent
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If there is a god, and he/she/it/they support what you are doing, then they are pathetic and I'm @#%^ing proud not to follow them. Any deity that is that vindictive (and vicious enough to have the kind of vanity required to send someone to hell for all eternity because they refused to believe you existed when you gave them absolutely no reason to think otherwise) doesn't deserve to be worshiped. They deserve a good hard kick to the groin.


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#217 Dec 15 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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No I was not confusing Kelvy and Bijou. I do quite well on my own meds thank you.

Matthew has a quote about selling clothes to buy swords. There is also his conversation with the Samaritan woman, that he has not come to her people. Yet a few verses later he changes his mind.
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#218 Dec 15 2011 at 6:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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No I was not confusing Kelvy and Bijou. I do quite well on my own meds thank you.

Then can I have some of Elne's meds?
#219 Dec 15 2011 at 8:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Relevant.

Edited, Dec 15th 2011 9:21am by lolgaxe
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Matthew has a quote about selling clothes to buy swords.

It's in Luke. Jesus tells his disciples that if they don't have a sword to sell their cloak and buy one. They say that they have two swords and Jesus says that's good enough.

Then, when the priests and soldiers arrest Jesus, one of the disciples attacks a guard and cuts his ear. Jesus heals the ear and rebukes his disciple (presumably for attacking first rather than just defending his life), telling him that those who live by the sword will die by the sword.
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#221 Dec 15 2011 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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#222 Dec 15 2011 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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If I have to throw myself under the bus to knock someone out of the way of it, I would gladly do it.. even if they accused my later of pushing them too hard.

Do this ASAP. Thanks.
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#223 Dec 16 2011 at 5:36 AM Rating: Default
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What's also nice is that he just approved violent gender policing/queer bashing.

No I didn't; but I'm glad it's OK for you people to wish me dead.

and (somehow fitting to you accusation) the swords in Luke were figurative
The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. 2 swords is enough? I'm sure he was arming people for violence with 2 swords..

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and (somehow fitting to you accusation) the swords in Luke were figurative

The sword used a couple verses later to cut off a guy's ear was figurative?
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#225 Dec 16 2011 at 6:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
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and (somehow fitting to you accusation) the swords in Luke were figurative

The sword used a couple verses later to cut off a guy's ear was figurative?



Oh, silly Joph. They didn't really cut off his real ear, you goose. They chided him for inattention, that's all. What else could it possibly mean?!
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Jophiel wrote:
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and (somehow fitting to you accusation) the swords in Luke were figurative

The sword used a couple verses later to cut off a guy's ear was figurative?


I'm pretty sure the whole book was figurative so yeah. Kelvy's right. Smiley: grin
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I'm pretty sure the whole book was figurative so yeah.

I don't think you know what figurative means. Even if you assume the entire book was fiction, that doesn't make the sword figurative.
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#228 Dec 16 2011 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
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One day Kelvy is going to realize that the world isn't broken down into evil people and Christians.

I hope.
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#229Kelvyquayo, Posted: Dec 16 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I surely shouldn't have to tell you, Jophed, that an object being used figuratively or as symbolic of something can also be used in other ways.
#230Kelvyquayo, Posted: Dec 16 2011 at 8:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't think Christians are good; just forgiven by God.
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You should relisten to that bible cd. God doesn't forgive all.
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If I made a piece of art our of swords someone could still pick a sword out of it and use it..

It's even easier if it's just a sword.

You know, if you take a sword and glue elbow macaroni and glitter to it, it's still a literal sword. It doesn't become "figurative".

Edited, Dec 16th 2011 8:14am by Jophiel
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#233 Dec 16 2011 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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One day Kelvy is going to realize that the world isn't broken down into evil people and Christians.

I hope.


All you have to do is ask to be shown..


When some creepy Christian wants to show you something, you probably NEED AN ADULT!
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Oh god, this thread is worse than people using "literally" to mean "figuratively"
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I know literally 200x more about the use of the word "literally" than you.
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#236 Dec 16 2011 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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One day all will realize that..
In the meantime can we just go back to being evolving sinners?
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Jophiel wrote:
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If I made a piece of art our of swords someone could still pick a sword out of it and use it..

It's even easier if it's just a sword.

You know, if you take a sword and glue elbow macaroni and glitter to it, it's still a literal sword. It doesn't become "figurative".

Edited, Dec 16th 2011 8:14am by Jophiel
What's with you and gluing macaroni to everything?
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#239Kelvyquayo, Posted: Dec 16 2011 at 9:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can do whatever you want. None of us ever stops being a sinner while we live on this earth; it is when we stand before God for judgment..
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You should see the cat Smiley: frown
Your cat glues macaroni to everything too?
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She's a mischievous little scamp.

Well, she was until she somehow got in the microwave.
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Your cat glues macaroni to everything too?

You should see the dog Smiley: frown
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You should open an Etsy shop featuring products your animals have glued macaroni to.
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We didn't find anything for pastapunk.

Try a popular search query like scarf, steampunk, owl, star wars, jewelry, party dress, earrings, iphone 4 case, necklace, or christmas instead.
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Then stop trying to force it on the rest of us.
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If I made a piece of art our of swords someone could still pick a sword out of it and use it..

It's even easier if it's just a sword.

You know, if you take a sword and glue elbow macaroni and glitter to it, it's still a literal sword. It doesn't become "figurative".

Edited, Dec 16th 2011 8:14am by Jophiel
What's with you and gluing macaroni to everything?
Daddy issues.
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If I made a piece of art our of swords someone could still pick a sword out of it and use it..
It's even easier if it's just a sword.

You know, if you take a sword and glue elbow macaroni and glitter to it, it's still a literal sword. It doesn't become "figurative"
Daddy Father issues.
I see what I did there.

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I know literally 200x more about the use of the word "literally" than you.


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Your cat glues macaroni to everything too?

You should see the dog Smiley: frown


Did he take literally 200 an elbow macaroni to the knee?
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It is as Bijou said: It's your choice.


Then stop trying to force it on the rest of us.


Seriously.

I was raised Catholic, and tried a few different flavors of Christianity in my teens. Personally, I find Christianity to be seriously lacking in any fairness, critical thinking or respect. I want no part of a religion which has this idea that "I'm right and you're wrong, the end." If your God was truly all loving, he wouldn't punish people who chose to follow a different path but were still generally good people, or people who never even heard about Christianity. I also can't bring myself to be part of a religion that says things are wrong but doesn't say why. Excuse me for having an independent thought, but I want to know why something is wrong before I choose to agree or disagree that it is wrong. I also can't be part of a religion which does not treat men and women equally. Women have been treated like utter crap in the last 2000 years because of what it says in the Bible. Actually, probably closer to 6000 years I suppose, since the Old Testament is just as guilty.

I've had the belief for probably close to 10 years or more, that every religion out there is worshiping the same God(s) and Goddess(es), they just have different ways of going about it. That's one of the things that I love about religion as a whole, that there is so much diversity, and that if someone is willing to take the time to do some research, they can find whatever path fits them best.

I'm Wiccan, and I like my faith's singular guideline much better than Christianity's 10 commandments and thousands upon thousands of other rules. "And it harm none, do as thou wilt." Do what you want, as long as you don't harm anyone else. This allows for more open and independent thinking about morality. It also forces people to think about the consequences of their actions. There is no "homosexuality is wrong!" because homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. There is no "sex before marriage is wrong!" because again, premarital sex in and of itself doesn't harm people. It is the people you choose to sleep with that can harm you, not the sex act itself. In fact, in my faith, sex is revered as a holy act of love. It isn't hushed or talked about only behind closed doors. It isn't naughty or dirty, it's beautiful.

TL;DR version: Quit proselytizing, and I like my religion better than yours. Smiley: tongue
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