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#77 Dec 10 2011 at 10:36 PM Rating: Good
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There's a word for blackballing someone because they don't want to just "go with the flow"
fascism
There's a word for crying "fascism" every time your unique little thoughts aren't cuddled and appreciated like precious puppies:
Immature Critical Thinking.
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#78 Dec 10 2011 at 11:06 PM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo wrote:

Playing around with pain is certainly not the same as being cut and burned.
If someone cannot enjoy *** without being injured then there are deeper emotional issues in the works there FAR beyond any sexual fetish.. so yes; I would say that feeding that monster is the wrong direction to go. Call me crazy.



Crazy.
Just because you don't understand someone else's emotional needs does not mean its wrong.
Playing around with pain can go FAR beyond cutting and burning and be perfectly healthy. (Balinese ball dance, OKeepah, suspension etc.)
you seem to have that wonderful personality of most zealots that screams "I'm not comfortable with that KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!"
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#79 Dec 10 2011 at 11:12 PM Rating: Excellent
I liked Kelvy better before he found "God".
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#80 Dec 10 2011 at 11:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
Very clever, but the only people here that could technically "ostracize" me here are the admins;

Well, you're technically incorrect. The community can ostracize you without admin involvement.
#81 Dec 10 2011 at 11:38 PM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
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Very clever, but the only people here that could technically "ostracize" me here are the admins;

Well, you're technically incorrect. The community can ostracize you without admin involvement.


Ironically, this is the polar opposite of gbaji's usual claim that oppression can't be oppression if a gov't does it.
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#82 Dec 10 2011 at 11:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory wrote:
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Very clever, but the only people here that could technically "ostracize" me here are the admins;

Well, you're technically incorrect. The community can ostracize you without admin involvement.


Have I mentioned we take large cash bribes to ostracize people recently by the way? just figured I'd mention that in case anyone is still shopping for last minute christmas gifts...
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#83 Dec 11 2011 at 12:01 AM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
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Very clever, but the only people here that could technically "ostracize" me here are the admins;

Well, you're technically incorrect. The community can ostracize you without admin involvement.


Have I mentioned we take large cash bribes to ostracize people recently by the way? just figured I'd mention that in case anyone is still shopping for last minute christmas gifts...


The holiday season is a great time for charity...
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#84 Dec 11 2011 at 12:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
I liked Kelvy better before he "found" God.
I think this arrangement better, but that's just me.

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[quote=Kelvyquayo]Very clever, but the only people here that could technically "ostracize" me here are the admins;

Well, you're technically incorrect. The community can ostracize you without admin *************************** Smiley: schooledSmiley: lol
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#85 Dec 11 2011 at 1:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
I liked Kelvy better before he found "God".


Meh. I've never been a fan.
#86 Dec 11 2011 at 4:42 AM Rating: Good
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Have I mentioned we take large cash bribes to ostracize people recently by the way? just figured I'd mention that in case anyone is still shopping for last minute christmas gifts...


If I bought Alma premium could I pick his avatar? Please?
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#87 Dec 11 2011 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Needs are needs?.. what a bunch of nonsense.
If a friend of yours felt the "need" to abuse their own partner would you just say "HEY! that's your need!! GO for it!".


It's an issue if their partner doesn't consent.

If two people choose to do something that doesn't harm others, it's fine by me.
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I liked Kelvy better before he found "God".

This. He used to be moderately cool. Always on the odd side, but tolerable. Now he's just a seriously bad troll, and his troll is everything that give Christianity a bad name.
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#90 Dec 11 2011 at 9:52 AM Rating: Default
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Say you have a scat fetish.

Then pull a LOL J/K and at that point he'll be so relieved, he'll be up for anything.

Unless he's into scat.


LOL totally reminded me of the Manage episode of Seinfeld. (no i don't really have a contribution other than that sorry.)
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#91 Dec 11 2011 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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I just scanned through this as it is time for bed but I had to reply. I do not require the rough stuff every day or even every week but it is a physical and emotional need for me. It is not a want, but a need. I am a ********* and I need to feel pain. It is just like people going out for a drink after a rough day at work or someone hitting the gym really hard when they are angry or upset about something. It is a release. A way for me to calm myself and release stress and frustrations that I have pent up. I am consenting and my partner is consenting so I really don't see it as abuse. Next time, do some research and maybe actually READ the thread before you start using terms like that.
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#92 Dec 11 2011 at 11:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu wrote:
Omegavegeta wrote:
I liked Kelvy better before he found "God".

This. He used to be moderately cool. Always on the odd side, but tolerable. Now he's just a seriously bad troll, and his troll is everything that give Christianity a bad name.



Is that what happened? I've been out of the loop.

In other news, I remember thinking "ostracize" had something to do with birds. Probably ostriches.

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#93 Dec 11 2011 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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In other news, I remember thinking "ostracize" had something to do with birds. Probably ostriches.

Ostrich in neon colored leg warmers and sweat bands.
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#94 Dec 11 2011 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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I just scanned through this as it is time for bed but I had to reply. I do not require the rough stuff every day or even every week but it is a physical and emotional need for me. It is not a want, but a need. I am a ********* and I need to feel pain. It is just like people going out for a drink after a rough day at work or someone hitting the gym really hard when they are angry or upset about something. It is a release.
I'd probably stick it in the addiction column.

Have you ever explored why you need to feel pain?


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I think a need to feel pain is different from a need to replace something in your life with pain. Cutting is a damaging activity because it is used to escape from yourself and suppress your emotions. It's solitary and is a way of dealing with emotional problems you don't have the tools to handle.

BDSM strikes me as being distinctly different. Especially since most people who partake in the practices don't have submissive/dominant personalities in their day to day lives.
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#96 Dec 11 2011 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
Rough *** is not the same as abuse; hate to break it to you.
And abuse is not the same as BDSM; hate to break it to you.

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I'd probably stick it in the addiction column.

Have you ever explored why you need to feel pain?
Because pain in a D/s situation feels really ******* good. I guess it's a mix of playing with fear, the release of adrenalin and being helpless. And it's a brilliant off switch for your brain for a lot of subs.
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#98 Dec 11 2011 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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#99 Dec 12 2011 at 12:48 AM Rating: Default
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and his troll is everything that give Christianity a bad name.


Declaring that the entire reason for being is to believe in God's Anointed and be perfected to people whose only point in life is to serve their flesh and their egos is what gives Christianity a bad name; let's not confuse the issue(the trolling).
The Truth always hurts when you reject it.

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Edited, Dec 12th 2011 1:49am by Kelvyquayo
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Oh, and you know what I find a lot more disturbing than consenting adults experimenting with pain-pleasure conversions (which are a natural part of the human construct)?

Adults with imaginary friends. Especially when these adults get angry that we aren't willing to go to their tea parties, where they expect us to have conversations with their imaginary friend. And it's even worse when they start telling us what their imaginary friend thinks about our own life choices.

And they think we should just give them a pass to do it.

I'd like to try that sometime. "Hey, boss? My imaginary friend wants you to know that you're an ******* for not giving me a raise. He said it, not me. He just asked me to pass it along. Oh, and you're gonna burn in ****. Thought you outta know."

Edited, Dec 12th 2011 2:04am by idiggory
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#101 Dec 12 2011 at 1:27 AM Rating: Good
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Delva wrote:
I just scanned through this as it is time for bed but I had to reply. I do not require the rough stuff every day or even every week but it is a physical and emotional need for me. It is not a want, but a need. I am a ********* and I need to feel pain. It is just like people going out for a drink after a rough day at work or someone hitting the gym really hard when they are angry or upset about something. It is a release. A way for me to calm myself and release stress and frustrations that I have pent up. I am consenting and my partner is consenting so I really don't see it as abuse. Next time, do some research and maybe actually READ the thread before you start using terms like that.


I have no problem with people getting rough during ***. Like someone else said, what goes on between two consenting adults behind closed doors is their business, not mine. But I don't understand a "need" to feel pain, and it makes me wonder if you'd resort to cutting if there was no sexual partner to do the cutting for you.

I may not agree with Kelvy 100%, but I do see where he's coming from to a certain extent. Saying it is "a physical and emotional need" seems a little scary to me. Kelvy's point about someone saying, "I need my partner to beat the crap out of me every day to feel loved" struck a chord with me. It does sound a little like what you're saying, and that makes me nervous.

However, I know little about BDSM, so there is that.
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