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#352 Dec 09 2011 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
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the multi-quoting is bound to make my eyes bleed.
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#353 Dec 10 2011 at 1:10 PM Rating: Default
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Gbaji wrote:
And it attempts to accomplish this by "artificially putting more minorities into college, or more minorities into a given workforce". You're looking at why it's being done. I'm looking at how it does it. The method really does matter here IMO.


I've done both.

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Also, the goal isn't as clear as you made it out to be. AA policies do not do anything to prevent minority business owners from employing only their minority. It only acts to ensure a fair distribution of a select set of minorities are hired/accepted in white owned establishments. I guess my problem with it is that if we think it's wrong to base hiring/acceptance decisions based on skin color, nationality, or sex, then how does creating a program that bases hiring/acceptance decisions on skin color, nationality, or sex do anything but perpetuate the problem?


AA applies for everyone regardless of sex, race, etc. I don't necessarily disagree with the concept, but more so with the application.

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We've created this boogeyman of racism, absent any significant evidence other than statistics.


If you believe that people aren't hired based on things other than merit, then you're sadly mistaken. The biggest discrimination is probably hiring unqualified family members.

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That's better, but not really a solution. No one's going to put "he's a darkie" down as the reason they didn't hire someone.


It doesn't matter what they put if it isn't justified. You can't say "not enough education", if other hired employees have the same amount or less education. You can't say "not enough experience" if other hired employees have the same or less experience.

This forces consistency.

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Why do we need big government programs to "fix" a problem that should fix itself?


It's impossible for it to "fix itself".

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Trust that most people aren't going to ***** someone because of their skin color. Move on.


You need to come to reality. Is it as rampant as it was 40 years ago? No, but it still exists and to pretend that it doesn't is just silly. I would assume because you're probably not a minority where you live, that you don't see it. It doesn't matter what skin color you are, if you're different, you will be treated differently. That's part of life and that's everywhere.
#354 Dec 11 2011 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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