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#1 Oct 20 2011 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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Law bans use of cash for second-hand transactions
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Cold hard cash. It's good everywhere you go, right? You can use it to pay for anything.

But that's not the case here in Louisiana now. It's a law that was passed during this year's busy legislative session.

House bill 195 basically says those who buy and sell second hand goods cannot use cash to make those transactions, and it flew so far under the radar most businesses don't even know about it.

"We're gonna lose a lot of business," says Danny Guidry, who owns the Pioneer Trading Post in Lafayette. He deals in buying and selling unique second hand items.


TL;DR legislative text:
House bill 195 wrote:
A.(1) Every person in this state engaged in the business of buying, selling, trading in, or otherwise acquiring or disposing of junk or used or secondhand property, including but not limited to jewelry, silverware, diamonds, precious metals, ferrous materials, catalytic converters, auto hulks [...stuff...] cassettes, compact disc players, and similar automotive audio supplies, used building components, and items defined as cemetery artifacts is a secondhand dealer. Anyone, other than a nonprofit entity, who buys, sells, trades in, or otherwise acquires or disposes of junk or used or secondhand property more frequently than once per month from any other person, other than a nonprofit entity, shall be deemed as being engaged in the business of a secondhand dealer.
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A secondhand dealer shall not enter into any cash transactions in payment for the purchase of junk or used or secondhand property. Payment shall be made in the form of check, electronic transfers, or money order issued to the seller of the junk or used or secondhand property and made payable to the name and address of the seller.
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Anyone acting as a second-hand an unlicensed secondhand dealer without complying with the provisions of this Part shall be fined not less than two hundred and fifty dollars or be imprisoned not less than thirty days nor more than sixty days,or both.
For a second offense, the offender shall be fined not more than two thousand dollars or be imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.
For a third or subsequent offense, the offender shall be fined not more than ten thousand dollars or be imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than five years, or both.


Hope everyone coming to your garage sale brings their checkbook.
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#2 Oct 20 2011 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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Take that, Gamestop.
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#3 Oct 20 2011 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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How will heroine addicts get their fix if they can't sell stolen jewelry and car stereos for cash?

Won't somebody think of the poor heroin addicts?!
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#4 Oct 20 2011 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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Won't somebody think of the poor heroin addicts?!
Apparently you're thinking of them. Smiley: confused

I'm sure this is meant to track sales that may be going unreported/untaxed, but jeezum, did they kind of forget to think this through?
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#5 Oct 20 2011 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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I... what?

This is kind of stupid. Even for Louisiana.
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#6 Oct 20 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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IDrownFish wrote:
This is kind of stupid. Even for Louisiana.

In response, Arkansas lawmakers are reportedly crafting a bill that would outlaw the use of cash for any purchase, which would only allow them to be used for snorting cocaine and "making it rain".
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#7 Oct 20 2011 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow. I thought this was an Onion article... wow. Apparently the aim was to stop catch people who steal items/copper and resell it for cash? Nice way to overreact.

Also, fun to see it was bipartisan: A Democrat co-authored it, 6 Democrats and 9 Republicans voted for it, no dissenting votes, Jindal (Rep. governor) signed it. The only time they work together is to ***** over regular citizens, huh? Smiley: lol
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#9 Oct 20 2011 at 11:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's Louisiana. The obvious fact is those filthy liberals were using voodoo.
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#10 Oct 20 2011 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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As a canadian I feel fine aboot this.
#11 Oct 20 2011 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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OK, seriously, what the hell is the point of this law? I seriously want to know what problem this is supposed to take care of. It's not like places that deal in stolen goods are going to bother following the law.

On top of the blatant stupidity of the law itself, is it even legal outlaw cash transactions? It says right on our money that it's legal tender for all debts public and private.



Edited, Oct 20th 2011 8:00pm by Turin
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Turin wrote:
OK, seriously, what the hell is the point of this law? I seriously want to know what problem this is supposed to take care of. It's like places that deal in stolen goods are going to bother following the law.

On top of the blatant stupidity of the law itself, is it even legal outlaw cash transactions? It says right on our money that it's legal tender for all debts public and private.

Edited, Oct 20th 2011 6:51pm by Turin


Well, they can make forms of transactions illegal. But I imagine that would need to apply to credit as well.

And like others said, all the types of transactions they are trying to prevent would be illegal already.

Plus, when it comes down to it, all pawn shops need to do is write checks payable to cash, no? The addicts still get to pawn their stuff--there's just an extra step involved now.

And the paper trail is hardly an issue. The only time a business would care about the paper trail is if they are dealing in stolen goods. And, in that case, they're clearly just going to ignore this law (like all the others they're ignoring).
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#13 Oct 20 2011 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I suppose there is tax evasion too. But I doubt this law would help any.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Well, I suppose there is tax evasion too. But I doubt this law would help any.
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#15 Oct 21 2011 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
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OK, seriously, what the hell is the point of this law? I seriously want to know what problem this is supposed to take care of. It's not like places that deal in stolen goods are going to bother following the law.

On top of the blatant stupidity of the law itself, is it even legal outlaw cash transactions? It says right on our money that it's legal tender for all debts public and private.



It's basically targeting scrap yards. When you recycle large loads of aluminum, copper, etc.. generally you have to supply a state I.D. but it's pretty easy to fake that. So this is an added measure to stop criminals from ripping the copper pipes out of your house, or the aluminum siding and gutters off your house. Unfortunately it takes it a bit to far.
#16 Oct 21 2011 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
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But it's so much fun hearing about meth heads electrocuting themselves trying to steal copper form live power lines!
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#17 Oct 21 2011 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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But it's so much fun hearing about meth heads electrocuting themselves trying to steal copper form live power lines!


We had a Meth head literally freeze his **** off while drilling holes in Anhydrous Ammonia tanks at the local CooP.
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