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#1 Oct 11 2011 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
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My younger generation informed me this weekend that putting two spaces after my sentence ending punctuation is wrong. Not only that, they claim it's always been wrong.

Wtf is up with kids these days?

Do you double-space?
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#2 Oct 11 2011 at 6:54 AM Rating: Good
I do sometimes, when I remember to. Current usage, from what I've read, is that you can double or single space at the end of sentence. Also, you can now put your punctuation inside or outside of a quote. With this one, just go with whatever I think looks less awkward.
#3 Oct 11 2011 at 6:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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From what I understand, it's a holdover from typewriter days. I do it because I'm old and don't care enough to change.

Also, I'll be damned if a generation that uses "lol" as punctuation and doesn't know what the word "literally" means is going to lecture me on intricacies of typesetting.

Edited, Oct 11th 2011 8:04am by Jophiel
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#4 Oct 11 2011 at 7:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was taught you can do either (single or double space after a period). That was back about a decade ago, so it's not -that- new.
#5 Oct 11 2011 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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I always have and will double space after punctuation. But I think now word processors and forum software auto corrects the spaces. At least, I've noticed when I go back to edit posts and such, the double space is gone.

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Allakhazam just removed my double spaces in this post. Smiley: mad

Edited, Oct 11th 2011 9:40am by TirithRR
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#6 Oct 11 2011 at 7:41 AM Rating: Good
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I've only every put one space after punctuation. That's the only way I was ever taught to do it, though.
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#7 Oct 11 2011 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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I think double spaces look hideous when using any sort of font with proper kerning... which is basically everything unless you have a Courier fetish. People, font designers know you need more space after a period. If you need double spaces to make a proportional font readable, you're using a shitty font.

It's not like it really matters on the Internet because double spaces are consolidated into a single space unless you use <pre> tags.

Edited, Oct 11th 2011 8:56am by Sweetums
#8 Oct 11 2011 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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Font studies and words like "kerning" make my eyes cross, and I then black out for a spell.

I was taught to double space back in the day. Still do it out of habit, but yeah, I've heard that it's already accounted for already in word processors.
#9 Oct 11 2011 at 8:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've heard that it's already accounted for already in word processors.

Apparently the interwebs are not smart enough to remove redundancy though, right?
#10 Oct 11 2011 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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I've heard that it's already accounted for already in word processors.

Apparently the interwebs are not smart enough to remove redundancy though, right?


Alas, no. Smiley: frown
#11 Oct 11 2011 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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I've only every put one space after punctuation. That's the only way I was ever taught to do it, though.
Same. I've never heard of double spacing at the end of a sentence. Double spacing lines, sure, but not sentences. maybe it's an American archaic thing.
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#12 Oct 11 2011 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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I heard of it when I was starting high school and took a typing class. Of course, the person that said it typed slower than I did and all the extra credit I was assigned gave me a 251 average for the year so take it for what you will.
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#13 Oct 11 2011 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I do one space. I'm not sure why. I think I'm too lazy to hit it twice.

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#14 Oct 11 2011 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
I want to say that the MLA tells you to double space for research papers... but it's been a few years since I took that class. In any case, school papers are the only time I double space.
#15 Oct 11 2011 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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I was taught that either is correct, but I remember my teachers harping on it being double spaced for term papers. Do I do it now? Fuck, I don't even spell check when typing on a forum, I sure as hell don't bother with a double space.
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I want to say that the MLA tells you to double space for research papers... but it's been a few years since I took that class. In any case, school papers are the only time I double space.


For what it's worth, we sent off a manuscript to PNAS at the end of last month; there wasn't any double-spacing.
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#17 Oct 11 2011 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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It actually is wrong, but it was still standard when I learned how to type. It MIGHT have been wrong then, and I was just taught it despite that, of course.

Originally, it was done because typewriters required that second space (I believe to help with legibility, since each letter takes up the same space on a typewriter). Computers, however, space letters according to their needs, so a single space is generally enough.

It also has to do with the fact that most writing styles are pioneered by printers, and shaving that extra space saves them paper and (in the context of newspapers) space.

I never take out the second space unless I'm desperately trying to reduce to under a page limit though. :P
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#19 Oct 11 2011 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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I still double space at the end of a sentence out of habit. I r old and set in my ways. Smiley: frown
#20 Oct 11 2011 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good
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I want to say that the MLA tells you to double space for research papers... but it's been a few years since I took that class. In any case, school papers are the only time I double space.
Wrong kind of double space
#21 Oct 11 2011 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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Hah, I didn't know that this was actually a proper thing until now. I just assumed that the old folks were bad at spacing.
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#22 Oct 11 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Originally, it was done because typewriters required that second space (I believe to help with legibility, since each letter takes up the same space on a typewriter). Computers, however, space letters according to their needs, so a single space is generally enough.

It also has to do with the fact that most writing styles are pioneered by printers, and shaving that extra space saves them paper and (in the context of newspapers) space.


Later printers, yes. The origin of the double space actually goes back to the original old block style printing presses. Different blocks were used for different sized spaces, with the largest block used to separate sentences. The reasoning was because letter blocks were the same regardless of what was around them, which creates gaps in a sentence depending on which letters are adjacent to each other. A larger space was necessary to signify the end of a sentence. Since the letter before that space was small (a "."), it created a large and unmistakable space.

Early typewriters were not only fixed in terms of the letters themselves but also monoscale (each letter took the same width on the page). The normal gaps between letters were even more variable and noticeable than on block printers. Thus, the convention of double spacing began to emulate the effect of using the largest block space between sentences that most people were used to seeing.


Unless you're typing with a fixed letter monospaced font, there's no reason to double space after a period for legibility. Some people do it just because that's what they were taught, but it's completely unnecessary 99% of the time. And as a couple people have pointed out, html automatically strips out the extra spaces anyway, so even if you do type them on this forum, they wont show up.



On the topic of strange writing habits though, I've got a dozy. Not sure where this friend of mine developed the habit, but he would do what he called a "soft return" when typing. Instead of letting the document software he was using manage word wrap, when he felt he was too close to the end of a line to fit the next word, he would hit the space bar until the cursor wrapped to the start of the next line, then continue typing. Of course, this inserted arbitrary numbers of spaces in his document, which looked fine if you were using the same software he used in the same font, with the same size. Of course, when I needed to take several dozen documents he'd written (on his Mac), and edit them on my PC, and print them out. Yeah. That was... "fun".
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#23 Oct 11 2011 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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I have to do the double space after a period when I'm typing. I went to a Catholic high school and my teacher would slap my hand if I didn't double space after a period, keep punctuation within the quotes, etc.

However, when I'm tweeting or texting or messaging with someone, I won't do the double space to save space and characters.
#24 Oct 12 2011 at 3:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't even remember high school english class.
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#25 Oct 12 2011 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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On the topic of strange writing habits though, I've got a dozy.
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#26 Oct 12 2011 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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my iPhone will auto punctuate if I double space :D
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