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#1 Sep 29 2011 at 6:59 AM Rating: Good
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I know a bunch of you guys (or at least Samira) own Kindles here After paying library fines for around the billionth time without ever starting on the books because I never actually carry them around, I'm thinking of getting a Kindle. My local library has finally gotten Kindle lending up and running so I don't have the excuse of "too cheap/lazy to get out my credit card." Some questions, though:

1) I can tether the Kindle to my phone with a wifi hot spot, but is the 3G one still worth the convenience?
2) How often do you use the keyboard? I'm especially interested in answers if you either buy or borrow eBooks from the device. The new model without the keyboard is a bit cheaper, but if it's useful enough I don't really care about paying extra.
3) How resilient is the display? Even with a case, will it survive a backpack?
#2 Sep 29 2011 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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Have you seen the Kindle Fire that's coming out? It's like a little tablet (looks just like the Nook Color). I haven't seen the price announced but it's been report to be about 1/2 the price of an ipad.

As far as 3G goes, the second gen Nook (the non-color one) did away with 3g presumably because it wasn't terribly useful.

On the Nook you can shop B&N easily without the keyboard - books will insta download to the device, but to shop anywhere else you have to use keyboard and side load books you want on the device. I'm assuming the kindle has a similar set up with Amazon.

I think in a pack-back with a case the screen will be fine. The biggest problem I've had with my reader is high humidity. The screen is sensitive to moisture.

Anyways, if you're strictly looking for a reader with less concern for other apps - I'd take a look at the Nook Smart touch. It's uses the easy-on-the-eyes e-ink screen, has a 2 month battery and I believe it's cheaper than a Kindle.

Good Luck - I love my e-reader.



Edited, Sep 29th 2011 3:12pm by Elinda
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#3 Sep 29 2011 at 7:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kindle Fire is supposed to be priced at $199 for a 7" tablet. It has fairly lackluster hardware but uses Amazon's cloud services to do the heavy lifting on rendering webpages and such so the browser is reportedly rather nimble for the specs. I'm sure it makes a good e-reader as well. It runs a proprietary version of Android and will require use of Amazon's own app store versus Google's more robust Android app marketplace.

On the other hand, it's reported that the Fire was sort of shoveled out the door to get buzz for the Christmas season as a low price tablet and that a better model will be out in early 2012.

Edited, Sep 29th 2011 8:42am by Jophiel
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#4 Sep 29 2011 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not really interested in a tablet because me and devices that need to be recharged frequently aren't good friends. I can barely keep my phone charged, and that's always plugged into my stereo via USB during my ridiculous commute.

I don't know if I want to deal with a touchscreen keyboard on a larger device than a telephone that doesn't have to show movies or webpages (if I had an iPad or something, I'd still purchase a keyboard for it). The only reasons that I prefer touchscreens are that the phone is small enough to where hand placement isn't a big deal, and I like the extra screen space afforded, but I don't like sliders because the cables that run through hinges are always the reason my phones ultimately die.

Also, physical page turn buttons. Then again, there's also the regular Kindle without any sort of keyboard for $109, so I'm just trying to decide about frequency of keyboard use or if I'll just get the books from my phone. Not a big note-taker.

They actually lowered the price of the Kindle keyboard without special offers to $139 (the same is true with the Kindle touch, but that's coming out in November and I want it in two days Smiley: grin), the same price as the Nook touch. I might wait for the Kindle touch, anyway, because it's apparently lighter and the page turns are more responsive, but I'll wait for reviews. I'm kind of going away from the idea of a keyboard after reading Nook touch reviews.

The Kindle store's selection is apparently much better than the Nook's, which swings it more into the Kindle direction.



Edited, Sep 29th 2011 9:40am by Sweetums
#5 Sep 29 2011 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'll break away from my perma-lurk and share my Kindle experiences. I got my Kindle in March and have read about 15 books on it so far. In that time, I think I have used the keyboard twice. For the most part I only use the Back, Home and page turn buttons. I find it isn't really a necessity.

You can join pretty much any network, so as long as your phone is acting as a hotspot, you should be able to connect to it. I have the WiFi only version and I've not had any problems. Typically I have it loaded up with books so I don't actually have to be online for anything. I have purchased one book via the Kindle itself without any problems. Unless you run out of books away from some WiFi, I'm not sure why someone would want the 3G. I mean, it has some "experimental" applications like a web browser and music player but I've not messed around with them.

I've had this Timbuk2 Kindle case since I purchased my Kindle, and I've never had a complaint. It has a nice soft interior that protects the screen and also absorbs a bit of shock, if you drop it.

I looked at the Fire when it was announced, but I find it to be a lackluster tablet. One of the things I do like about the Kindle is that it isn't back lit so it is very easy on the eyes. That said, I have found myself in darker areas (certain parts of Metro, etc) where it is hard to see the screen without some lighting.

Overall, I love my Kindle. I don't miss the "book" experience some people have when moving to an electronic reading device. Although, my largest complaint is that I can't read during take off and landings while flying (no fault of the Kindle, mind you).

edit: I forgot battery life. Since March, I have charged my Kindle twice. I keep the WiFi off, and read it almost every day on Metro - occasionally before bed as well. I'm greatly impressed with the battery life on this thing.


Edited, Sep 29th 2011 12:07pm by Dozer
#6 Sep 29 2011 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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How much space have you used on it so far? I know ebooks don't take up much space but the upcoming Kindle touch has 4 gb rather than the 2 gb of the basic Kindle.
#7 Sep 29 2011 at 11:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have 3 gigs free with 21 books currently on the device, but mine is the Kindle keyboard version so it had 4gigs to start.

You can keep your books in the cloud so I only really need the books on the device that I am currently reading. Since I read one at a time, I only need one book on the device. You can remove the books from the device, and download them again later if you wanted to read them again.

I'm sure I could fill 4 gigs of space over time, but I'd never need more than 2 at any given time.

Edited, Sep 29th 2011 1:10pm by Dozer
#8 Sep 29 2011 at 12:11 PM Rating: Excellent
1) Yes
2) Never ever, it's a complete waste of space. Although I rarely buy ebooks from the kindle itself.
3) Very, and probably. Depends on what you have in your backpack, I guess.

I've never regretted buying a Kindle. Practical, solid, convenient, reliable. It should really be German.
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#9 Sep 29 2011 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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Kindle touch 3G is 189.99 without the ad subsidy. I know that the ads are unobtrusive, but I don't know if I feel comfortable having ads on my device to save $40. Then again, there are apparently offers on there to buy $25 gift cards for $10, and I buy lots of stuff of of Amazon...

My smartphone can't tether to the Kindle anyway because it's apparently only an ad-hoc network :/


Edited, Sep 29th 2011 2:38pm by Sweetums
#10 Sep 29 2011 at 1:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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I almost never use the keyboard on the kindle. If I were buying one now I'd get the non keyboard version in a blink. I'd probably get the kindle touch.

I'm waiting for the colour e-ink screen to come to the kindle. That will probably be when I get a new version, because you could read graphic novels etc on it then.
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#11 Sep 29 2011 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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1. Yes. While it may not happen often, there is nothing more irritating then wanting to purchase a new book when you're away from a hot spot and being unable to. For me, it is worth it.

2. Fairly often when I want to search for a book to buy and I'm too lazy to head down to my desktop and look it up on a real keyboard. It works well and I have no complaints.

3. Pretty resilient. I dont have a case and daily toss it into my purse when Im running out the door. It's still in perfect condition.
#12 Sep 29 2011 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
3G is handy, to say the least imo. I suppose it also depends on whether or not you have a decent coverage of whispernet or not, I've never had a problem with that.

I love my Kindle, it's handy, compact and the screen is amazing. Some downsides: lousy way to turn it on and off, at least my Kindle has that. It's not a regular slide button to turn it on or off, you have to hold it for a fairly long time before it shuts off.

Depending on your country, you can get lousy book service though; I'm guessing that you are from the USA (most posters here are, although there are a lot of exceptions ofcourse) in which case you get a lot of good deals. I'm Belgian and are often told that Amazon can't deliver the ebook to my Kindle due to copyright issues. It annoys the crap out of me, prices are often higher here too and I've had books that I couldn't get at all, not even via Amazon France or Germany. (oddly enough even Amazon UK won't deliver to me due to copyright issues)

But I suppose that isn't really Amazon's fault.


I have only once used the keyboard to look for a book, in about one full year.

As noted above, I have my Kindle for a year now, it's still alive, it's pretty resilient, I did get a screenprotect foil and also a sort of a case. The case is handy, definitely a must have.

I'm not all that happy with the battery though, I tend to have to recharge quite a lot imo. But it's not excessive enough to become a problem, so far anyway.
#13 Sep 29 2011 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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I have had the kindle 3g since my kids gave it to me on Father's day.

I can't believe I never got one before that. I moved many books over to it (totals 175 atm), both in kindle format from my pc and things that I had in pdf. My 8 gigs hardly shows a dent in it. I also put a gig of music on it that I have never listened to, lol.

I end up charging it on average about once a week. The 3g version is the way to go, no charges for usage...ever. I actually surfed the web on it last week and that was almost refreshing...even in greyscale...no ads, no popups, lol.

The battery lasts almost 30% longer if you turn off wireless except when using it.
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#14 Sep 29 2011 at 8:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Still love mine. Space is not a problem, since text takes up very little space and you can always remove a book from the device (and re-download it later as needed).

I rarely use the keyboard.

I think I'd buy the current model rather than the upcoming tablet, personally. It's super easy on your eyes, and if you really need a light source you can get a little clip-on dealy.

If you're moderately careful it should do fine in your backpack. I carry mine around in my bag all the time. Get a cover for it, tuck it in securely and it'll be fine.

I read a lot, so I charge mine about every other week. Something like that.
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#15 Sep 30 2011 at 12:00 AM Rating: Good
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How often do you buy books with the 3G connection on the Kindle? I don't see myself traveling soon so I'm not worried about data roaming, and the web browsing is probably subpar compared to a smartphone.

Mainly, the wind was taken out of my sails after I saw that library lending was wi-fi only :(


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#16 Sep 30 2011 at 6:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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I usually order up books from my PC and download them whenever I'm in a good spot for a connection on the Kindle. Amazon has a lot of classics available for free, these days.

I suppose the wi-fi decision makes sense - lots of places subsidize or provide wi-fi for libraries and schools, these days.
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#17 Sep 30 2011 at 8:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just ordered a used Wi-Fi Kindle Keyboard off of Amazon for around $85 including shipping, listed as "like new" Smiley: thumbsup

Only about $5 more than the new mini-Kindle with ads, except this one doesn't have ads and has more more features and more space that I'll probably never use. If it's not as described, I'll probably put up with a few scratches since it was the cheapest one on the marketplace and also happens to be cheaper than any of the Kindles on craigslist around here. If it's bad enough, there's always chargebacks.

Appreciate it, guys. Rated up the people who answered, even though rating up Jophiel and Samira is more of a symbolic gesture.

Edited, Sep 30th 2011 9:32am by Sweetums
#18 Oct 01 2011 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa and I have two "e-readers".

Nexa has had a nook color for 7 months or so, I've a had a new non touch Kindle for about 24 hours.

We like both of these very much. Like most other people in the world, I haven't had any hands on time with the Fire, but let me start with what I think you should do.

If the idea is a device to read books on BUY THE NEW KINDLE. IMMEDIATELY.

The value proposition for the device at $79 is absurd. The screen looks great, page turns are quick, it's an ideal uncomplicated device to read on. The ads from the "special offers" that are pushed to it are unobtrusive. They don't exist when you're reading a book, at all, and the third one that showed up was $5 off any Amazon purchase of $10 or more. Another was for ATT, and there was also one for a discount on mystery novels and one for the movie Anonymous. They show up as "screen savers" which with the Kindle means a static image of the ad when it sleeps after you set it down. They also show up on the bottom of the home screen, so unobtrusively that I'm assuming it's the same as the screen saver because I literally haven't noticed.

I don't really understand the appeal of a touchscreen for this sort of device. I guess if you took notes, or used the web browser much? I'm never going to do that. I'm going to read books with it.

The Nook Color is also fine for reading books, but really shines for reading comics or kids books. We had Nexa's set up to run Honeycomb from a bootable SD card in about an hour after we bought it, and that was a surprisingly fun experience. I thought it was easy and that anyone could do it, but I think that about a lot of things. All of that said, I wouldn't watch movies on a 7" screen. I know people watch video on phone screens or whatever; it's just not something I'd do. We seem to have 1000 laptops, and I can't really imagine using a tablet for browsing or work stuff, instead, but I realize other people do. I'm not much help there.

Anyway, back to the new Kindle, the build quality seems high, the design is very good. I love it so far. Of course, so far is 33 hours or whatever, but it's been a great experience.



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#19 Oct 02 2011 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
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Love my Kindle. I think the 3g is a waste of money, I typically either buy new books at work or home and just connect to the network at either location.

I rarely use the keyboard other than when connecting to the work network (password for guest wireless changes every week). I'd also recommend getting a cover for it. I imagine it's fairly resilient, but rather than risk it I just got a cover/case right away. I regularly throw it in the saddlebags on my bike, and I've dropped it a few times and had the cover kindle case save it.

Display is great. If you're looking for just a basic e-reader, I think the kindle is the way to go. I am interested in the new one, but am too cheap to upgrade already. I just bought mine back in March.
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#20 Oct 02 2011 at 10:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I made my own kindle case out of an old book. It works great, but make sure you spend the extra money and get proper book binding glue. That or make sure you're related to a librarian, which is a cheaper and easier route.

With the proper glue you just close the book with wax paper near one edge, and then paint the glue on the edge. Then after cutting out the inside to fit the kindle, you paint the inside with the glue. With the right glue there is no need to glue layer by layer.
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