Don't ask, don't tell, don't persueFollow

It was a joke? They were trying to make me uncofrtable? They were hitting on me? I don't know, I never asked as I didn't care.

Under the old DADT policy, that's exactly what they were.

orly? They don't get the same professional respect as just another Soldier, in their work time? Do tell.

Quite the smackdown, Ari.

Interestingly, only 2 people in the whole world are permitted to perform the Tombstone since the year 2000. And those two wrestlers cannot perform it in many cities in the world, where the move is an automatic disqualification, sometimes accompanied by a fine.

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You're just projecting.

It's pretty sad he didn't even try to change a few words.

OH MY GOD HE CONTINUED TO TALK AS IF IT WERE NORMAL, YOU GUYS. CLEARLY A HOMMO.

Fortunately I'm not limited!

I never said I can't recall, did I? I said I never cared. I never asked why they were sitting on me, I simply ignored them. The point I was making, which you seem to have missed, is that not all people are affected in a homophobic way when someone of the same sex sits on them, so using it as a basis of declaring someone to be a homosexual is stupid.

There are simply different types of touch manners in different socio-economic groups. City people are more inclined to touch than country people as a nat-always-right generalisation. While Mediterranean and Middle-Easterner males are perhaps most famous for it, my own experience of groups of het males who were comfortable touching other het males for things like massages, casual hugs, and kisses hello and goodbye include:

A very large clan of Australian Catholics of distant Austrian descent, mixed country and city dwellers.
A family of Australian Anglicans of recent Sri-Lankan descent, living in a small regional city of 60k people.
An Aussie Jewish magistrate.
An Aussie Peruvian child-psychologist. Actually she was female, and doesn't count. Except she also massaged women friends and kissed them hello and goodbye.
A 1/16th Australian Aborigine who grew up "white" in another small regional city, ran away in his young teens, did his Walkabout and initiation ceremony with other Aborigines and then later rejoined mainstream whitefella culture to go to uni. He was NOT into the citified European double-kiss hello and goodbye, but he was big on massaging blokes he thought were tense and needed it.

Did you even think before writing that? Seriously, you sound beyond foolish.

If I had based my assumption on his feminine behavior, then you would have a point as I've met several straight feminine guys before, but I didn't. However, when you add the fact of him googling half naked stereotypical gay men and his reaction to another man sitting on his lap, it is fair to make that assumption.

The bottom line is that you're either gay (bi/trans/etc/) or straight. Without knowing one's sexuality, you can only assume based on the individual's actions and his actions were leading on the homosexual side. The fact that I'm not declaring his sexuality is proof of me thinking objectively. I'm not treating him any differently, I'm not telling others that he's a homosexual, it's just a mere perception.

So, what is your counter argument? You believe it's wrong to make an assessment on an unidentified person's sexuality?

I understood your point exactly. I was just pointing out how stupid it is.

You not caring has absolutely nothing to do with you not knowing their motives. Contrary to your misguided belief, grown adults sitting on each others' laps is not a customary greeting for the U.S. It's perfectly "normal" in other cultures for same sex heterosexual friends to hold hands, kiss and be very close. However, the U.S. is not one of those cultures. We are a "arms length away"/independent type of culture.

If an adult sits on another adults lap in the U.S., it's not a customary greeting but typically falls under "affection/sexual and/or some form of a joke". The only other alternative that I can think of is that your friends are "so close" that sitting on each laps is something that you all just do. So, unless you all do that to everyone, that would fall under the "affection" category.

Furthermore, homophobic? Really? You all's favorite clutch. HTF is that homophobic? Where does it end? "Oh, just because he sat in your lap and held your hand doesn't make him gay". "Oh, just because he sat in your lap, held your hand and stuck his tongue in your mouth, that doesn't make him gay". "Oh, just because he rode you like a pony, that doesn't make him gay". The moment an individual does something out of the customary actions of a culture, it is fair game.

Don't even waste your time trying to argue that we just sit on each others' laps as daily conversation. So, if you don't know their motive behind sitting on your lap, then you can't compare the scenarios. Rather you actually cared or not is completely irrelevant. I bet if your girl friend/wife/mom/daughter sat on some random new male friend's lap of yours, you would be able to state their intent.

No, she wrote it correctly the first time. Try to keep up.

Or both! You could be both.

Which means he's sitting on a moose lap.

I don't think it counts unless he slits the moose open and shelters for the night in its steaming bowels.

Also, I am kinda both, but it's more fun to pretend that I'm not.

I want to be his furry but he's so devoted to his partner he gives me the cold shoulder.

I pictured a product called Moose Lap, that was a heated, inflatable donut to sit on.

Wow. Tard.

Where's your wizard's hat and robes?