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#1052Almalieque, Posted: Oct 30 2011 at 11:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Do you or do you not believe that racial quotas and minority scholarships are racial discrimination?
#1053 Oct 30 2011 at 11:29 PM Rating: Excellent
Bijou talks about selections for movie roles and not hiring a 300 lb. neo-**** to work at a rape clinic and Alma 'counters' it with an unrelated point regarding affirmative action. Cute.
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#1054 Oct 30 2011 at 11:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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That is option #2, thanks for playing.

Guess reading comprehension was too hard for you yet another time. Thanks for... losing? Smiley: laugh
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#1055 Oct 31 2011 at 1:29 AM Rating: Good
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Do you or do you not believe that racial quotas and minority scholarships are racial discrimination?


I believe it is necessary due to "white privilege" & "selection", as opposed to discrimination. It is neither unjust nor prejudice to select a minority for a minority scholarship until such a time that minorities have an equal opportunity to attend college to begin with.

My views on race are quite far left though & even many of the progressives on this board disagree with my views on the subject.

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#1056 Oct 31 2011 at 4:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Alma, everyone else is right, you are wrong. Deal with it. And then get help.
#1057 Oct 31 2011 at 4:40 AM Rating: Excellent
And by get help she means pull a Pvt. Pyle in a bathroom stall.
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#1058 Oct 31 2011 at 5:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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And by get help she means pull a Pvt. Pyle in a bathroom stall.

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#1059 Oct 31 2011 at 6:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Alma wrote:
Do you or do you not believe that racial quotas and minority scholarships are racial discrimination?
I believe it is necessary due to "white privilege" & "selection", as opposed to discrimination. It is neither unjust nor prejudice to select a minority for a minority scholarship until such a time that minorities have an equal opportunity to attend college to begin with.
This.
And I'm so white, I'm transparent.

With the caveat that the kid bumped due to this is the rich one, not the farm kid from ******** Kansas.
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#1060Almalieque, Posted: Nov 03 2011 at 3:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Read above. Racial quotas and scholarships affect EVERYONE.
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Jophiel wrote:
Guess reading comprehension was too hard for you yet another time. Thanks for... losing? Smiley: laugh
Be happy with your decision. You made it, not me. You can always change your mind.

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#1062 Nov 03 2011 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
Alma wrote:
You didn't answer the question. I didn't ask if you thought it was necessary, just, unjust, fair, right, wrong, etc. I asked you if you thought hiring a less qualified person over a more qualified person, only because of their race, is racial discrimination or not?


I answered the question (Are minority scholarships racism?): I don't believe they are & I even explained why I thought that. You disagree with me? Cool.

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You have this silly thought that the reason behind the action changes the action.


We don't let convicted felons have guns, because they would be more apt to use them for criminal purposes. This is not a good reason to outlaw all guns for everybody, but a good enough reason to try & keep them out of the hands of felons. While the reasoning behind keeping guns out of the hands of felons doesn't change the fact that felons are discriminated against when it comes to owning guns, if there wasn't any logical & practical reason to keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons there wouldn't be any need to do so. The logic behind that discrimination makes it acceptable in society.

There were accepted logical reasons behind DADT (Morals, unit cohesion, "comfort", etc.), but with the progress over the last decade or so since DADT's inception (People are more comfortable around teh Gays in & out of the military) that is no longer the case.

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Discrimination is discrimination is discrimination. The reasoning and logic determines whether or not it is accepted by society. If you're doing it just out of hatred, then people tend not to support it. If you have some logical reason behind it, people are more likely to support it.


What logical reason would you use to reinstate DADT?

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#1063Almalieque, Posted: Nov 04 2011 at 1:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Everything is laid out to you nicely on post 206.
#1064 Nov 04 2011 at 5:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Everything is laid out to you nicely on post 206.
I sincerely hope you die of a fire while in a cancer ward.
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Edited, Mar 21st 2011 2:14pm by Darqflame Lock Thread: Because Lubriderm is silly... ~ de geso

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#1065 Nov 04 2011 at 7:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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The Army makes fun of gays ALL OF THE TIME
And everyone else, and itself, but that little tidbit doesn't make your sensationalist claim nearly as dramatic.

Edited, Nov 4th 2011 9:19am by lolgaxe
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I like how Alma thinks chanting "206" is an answer and, to everyone else, it's an admission of not having an answer Smiley: laugh
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#1067 Nov 04 2011 at 11:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I NEVER asked you if you thought minority scholarships were racist/racism. I don't believe that is racism either. So, will you please answer the question?


You asked me if I thought they were racial discrimination. I told you no & even said why.

Alma wrote:
Do you think hiring a less qualified person over a more qualified person, only because of their race, is racial discrimination?


In most cases, yes. In the cases of affirmative action, no.

Alma wrote:

Except that wasn't the reasoning behind the discrimination. While they were certainly part of it, it wasn't the meat and potatoes.


What was the "meat & potatoes" behind DADT, then? Be specific.

Alma wrote:
You're only wanting to believe that to accept that as a fact.


They are facts & you're either unwilling or unable to dispute them.

Alma wrote:
If what you claimed were true, then homosexual couples would have the same rights as heterosexual couples, since they don't, it only proves that this has nothing to do with bigotry as you claim.


They don't because of DOMA, which has been covered. Repealing DADT doesn't repeal DOMA, so they are separate issues.

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Who are people?


The majority of Americans. I even linked them in some polls for you. You have yet to dispute them except to say "nu uh". Disputing them would require a citation.

Alma wrote:
I say again, actions speak louder than words.


Agreed, what does the repeal of DADT say?

Alma wrote:
Just because homosexuality is popular in the media doesn't mean that people in general has changed anything. If that were the case, there wouldn't be any prop 8 debates and people constantly fighting for traditional marriages, etc. Just a few weeks ago, I saw on the news where a man was suspended/fired? for cross dressing.


Religious bigots are good at marketing, but they only speak for a small fringe group.

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You're simply creating an environment that doesn't exist.


I'm quoting polls that say most Americans are comfortable with the gays. You're free to disagree with me, but the evidence is on my side since you've presented none.

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The Army makes fun of gays ALL OF THE TIME.. The only thing now is, it's always followed by "Hey, we can't say that now, it's ok now".


Nah, but people in the Army very well might. Should we reinstate DADT so you can feel more comfortable doing so again? Nah, because that'd be illogical. If only there was someone whom could present an argument for DADT reinstatement...

Edited, Nov 5th 2011 1:27am by Omegavegeta
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#1068 Nov 04 2011 at 11:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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I like how Alma thinks chanting "206" is an answer and, to everyone else, it's an admission of not having an answer Smiley: laugh


Is it wrong that every time I see someone referring back to a specific post over and over in a debate, I want to go find that post and edit it to something more amusing, like a picture I took of mismatched socks in my sock drawer for exactly that purpose?
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#1069 Nov 05 2011 at 2:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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#1070 Nov 05 2011 at 6:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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#1071 Nov 05 2011 at 6:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
I like how Alma thinks chanting "206" is an answer and, to everyone else, it's an admission of not having an answer Smiley: laugh


Is it wrong that every time I see someone referring back to a specific post over and over in a debate, I want to go find that post and edit it to something more amusing, like a picture I took of mismatched socks in my sock drawer for exactly that purpose?
It is not only not wrong, it is something you should absolutely do in a situation like this. But to be perfectly honest, you could turn 90% of his posts into noting but Goat See pics and it would be an improvement.
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Edited, Mar 21st 2011 2:14pm by Darqflame Lock Thread: Because Lubriderm is silly... ~ de geso

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#1072Almalieque, Posted: Nov 05 2011 at 10:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If only someone would actually read post 206.
#1073 Nov 05 2011 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:

I did..

Actions speak louder than words. Why aren't SSM legal in all 50 states? I mean if the majority of the nation feels the way you say, then why are SSM proponents still FIGHTING battles?

Because moronic Christians like you have all the power in politics?
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#1074 Nov 05 2011 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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SSD = Solid state hard drives, so SSM = Solid State Motherboards? I know the GSM (Gas State Motherboards) get expensive once you release the magic blue smoke!
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#1075 Nov 05 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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SSM=Same *** Marriage, which Alma keeps bringing up to try and deflect from the fact that he has no argument.
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I like my definition better!
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