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#127 Sep 25 2011 at 1:18 AM Rating: Good
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I hate to burst your bubble, but just because someone doesn't see life the same way as you, doesn't make them an idiot.


In your case, it does.

It also makes you ignorant as well as a homophobe.

History will look back on people such as yourself, shake their head, & chuckle at the thought that there was ANYONE as ignorant as yourself.

Much like they'll do when they look back on shows such as "Teen Mom" & "Jersey Shore".

You're kind of like a black, American version of the UK's Karl Pilkington. Except Carl's entertaining.
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#128 Sep 25 2011 at 1:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Almsa wrote:

I hate to burst your bubble, but just because someone doesn't see life the same way as you, doesn't make them an idiot.


In your case, it does.

It also makes you ignorant as well as a homophobe.

History will look back on people such as yourself, shake their head, & chuckle at the thought that there was ANYONE as ignorant as yourself.

Much like they'll do when they look back on shows such as "Teen Mom" & "Jersey Shore".

You're kind of like a black, American version of the UK's Karl Pilkington. Except Carl's entertaining.


Read above.. All I hear is talk with no walk. The same exact thing that you said about me can be said about you and it would be equally as true.
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#129 Sep 25 2011 at 1:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Alma wrote:
Read above.. All I hear is talk with no walk. The same exact thing that you said about me can be said about you and it would be equally as true.


I don't give a crap about gays seeing my junk when I shower at the Gym, you shouldn't give a crap about gays peeking at your junk in the military.

I'll be quite honest- I havent read much of anything you've written since your last, "OMFG Gays are going to come out in the military & see my junk" thread. So, if your stance has changed & you're open to poofs peeking at your junk now, by all means let me know.

Also, gotta love the "NO U!" response to my claim that you're ignorant as well as a homophobe. It's almost cute.

Prove to me that you're neither by answering the following:

If the fetus a woman is carrying is gay, will you still support it's rights?
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#130 Sep 25 2011 at 1:56 AM Rating: Default
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Alma wrote:
Read above.. All I hear is talk with no walk. The same exact thing that you said about me can be said about you and it would be equally as true.


I don't give a crap about gays seeing my junk when I shower at the Gym, you shouldn't give a crap about gays peeking at your junk in the military.

I'll be quite honest- I havent read much of anything you've written since your last, "OMFG Gays are going to come out in the military & see my junk" thread. So, if your stance has changed & you're open to poofs peeking at your junk now, by all means let me know.

Also, gotta love the "NO U!" response to my claim that you're ignorant as well as a homophobe. It's almost cute.

Prove to me that you're neither by answering the following:

If the fetus a woman is carrying is gay, will you still support it's rights?


If that's what you gathered from my posts, then you can only fault yourself for a lack of understanding.
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#131 Sep 25 2011 at 2:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Alma wrote:
If that's what you gathered from my posts, then you can only fault yourself for a lack of understanding.


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Why people fully support open homosexual men showering with men but oppose open heterosexual men showering with women is beyond me.


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#132 Sep 25 2011 at 2:08 AM Rating: Good
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It's true, a different view on life doesn't make you an idiot. But fear not, there's plenty of other reasons why you're a @#%^ing idiot!


Name them.. Remember, they can't involve opinions of life, to include but are not limited to, SSM, abortion, sexuality, etc.
You are incapable of forming a logical argument. And no I'm not going to prove or explain this as you won't listen anyway and this is enough of a waste of time already.
You are so convinced you're right it almost makes Varus look smart in comparison (and now you'll probably point to that one time you totally admitted you were wrong, good for you).
You need even the simplest of concepts explained to you, search your own posts for "Explain." if you don't believe me.

And now you're going to tell me how wrong I am about what I said, you were going to when you asked me to point it out regardless of what I'd say.
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#133 Sep 25 2011 at 3:37 AM Rating: Default
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Alma wrote:
If that's what you gathered from my posts, then you can only fault yourself for a lack of understanding.


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Why people fully support open homosexual men showering with men but oppose open heterosexual men showering with women is beyond me.


Alma; The Great communicator.


Smiley: oyvey

And you proved what? You took a snippet from an entire argument and adulterated it. If you still don't understand it, reread my initial response in this argument. I explained exactly what that quote meant IN CONTEXT.

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You are incapable of forming a logical argument. And no I'm not going to prove or explain this as you won't listen anyway and this is enough of a waste of time already.


So wait... I'm "incapable of forming a logical argument" and you choose to make an argument with no substance to reaffirm it? The irony. You choose not to, because you can't.

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You are so convinced you're right it almost makes Varus look smart in comparison (and now you'll probably point to that one time you totally admitted you were wrong, good for you).


That one time? So, if I never "agreed" to you and you never agreed with me, how is the problem with me? Aren't you claiming that you're always right, that is unless you have been wrong as well. Which as a result would make me right on occasions? So, then how does that make me stupid? Oh, right, it doesn't.

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You need even the simplest of concepts explained to you, search your own posts for "Explain." if you don't believe me.


"Explain" is for people like you, who in this very own post, who likes to make comments with no substance. I ask you to explain, not because I don't necessarily comprehend it, but because you are simply making stuff up. Giving you a benefit without a doubt (not literally), I ask you to explain yourself. Your responses are as you just stated, "I don't have to". Yet, I'm the one incapable of making an argument and you can't even put a counter together to disprove my claim?

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And now you're going to tell me how wrong I am about what I said, you were going to when you asked me to point it out regardless of what I'd say.


You haven't said anything for me to counter your claim. You're simply name calling. If being in third grade amuses you, fine, but don't expect me to accede to such immaturity.
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#134 Sep 25 2011 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
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Why the hell are you people talking to him??

NO ONE IS THAT BORED.
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#135 Sep 25 2011 at 5:58 AM Rating: Good
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Why the hell are you people talking to him??

NO ONE IS THAT BORED.

Class doesn't start up until tomorrow, so it's either this or go shopping. Actually I'll go shopping...
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#136 Sep 25 2011 at 7:20 AM Rating: Good
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I hate to burst your bubble, but just because someone doesn't see life the same way as you, doesn't make them an idiot.

But being an idiot would prevent them from seeing life the way I do so it's a worthy path of explanation to explore.
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#137 Sep 25 2011 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Why the hell are you people talking to him??

NO ONE IS THAT BORED.
Clearly you don't know the bounds of my time-wasting abilities
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#138 Sep 25 2011 at 8:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:

Other jobs do not force you to live, sleep and shower with someone. No matter how much people want to deny it, it's the same exact reason why men and women don't share close quarters.
Not to mention often have to ****, defectate, and **** (quietly) in front of each other when out in the field.

But hey, most non-military hetero guys aren't used to doing that, and wouldn't do that. Military guys learn to get used to a different culture in terms of behaviour and personal boundaries, and new set of etiquette rules, because they have a strong purpose to do so: to serve in a working military. Their mind over-rules their learned reactions in terms of behaviour.

If guys can learn to do things in front of other hetero men that they would usually only do in front of their wife or girlfriend, they can learn to do it in front of gay guys. Take my uni job as a life model. I have firm reasons to believe that life-drawing with human models is necessary in learning several technical art skills, and often necessary for some good art pieces. My mind knew I'd go out naked on a small stage in front of a ring of not only strange women, but strange guys, also.

I knew that that's unusual behaviour for most people, but in the circumstance of a Life-drawing class, people would respect the rules, and respect me and my personal space. They and I would modify our behaviour for several years of special circumstances. My first class, my mind was totally at peace, but for the first 15 minutes my body TOTALLY freaked out once I got naked for my first poses. Sweat poured out all over me, and steadily dripped off my elbows as I held my arms up, because my BODY said "NO! THIS IS WRONG TO BE NAKED IN FRONT OF STRANGE MEN AND WOMEN!" But guess what. After 20 minutes my body settled down and got used to the new circumstances.

I could tell there were a few young guys who found me sexually attractive by their first shocked widening of their eyes, hastily veiled, and a tendency to draw me like a goddess on the page, instead of my real form. But apart from that initial reveal, they behaved totally professionally and "normally" towards me for the entire year. Like I was a clothed, normal person that they had a student-teacher relationship with. People can adjust their boundaries and behaviour when really needed.
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#139 Sep 25 2011 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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All that being said, I'm on the record as saying I'm fine with them creating separate showering facilities, if it was so desired. Honestly, that's not that hard.

After that, I don't think there's a leg to stand on against repeal.


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I could tell there were a few young guys who found me sexually attractive by their first shocked widening of their eyes, hastily veiled, and a tendency to draw me like a goddess on the page, instead of my real form.


Smiley: um

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#140 Sep 25 2011 at 8:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Alma wrote:
And you proved what? You took a snippet from an entire argument and adulterated it. If you still don't understand it, reread my initial response in this argument. I explained exactly what that quote meant IN CONTEXT.


It's not complicated, even in context. You do not want gay dudes looking at your junk in the shower, which is why you're opposed to DADT repeal.

I've designed an elaborate solution.

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#141 Sep 25 2011 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Showering together is not really a unique military thing. How is this any different from using a gym shower? Lots of them aren't separated, and dudes use them all the time.

If you think there aren't any gay people at gyms, you are really kidding yourself
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#142 Sep 25 2011 at 1:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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If those using that term really just mean that someone was zealous about their cause, they'd apply it to liberals as frequently as they do to conservatives.
I agree, if someone is acting overzealous they should be labeled evangelical regardless of political affiliation. Like Santorum.


I eagerly await the day that Maddow will refer to Obama as an evangelical. Until then, I'll stick to my assumptions about how the left uses the term.


What on earth is Obama "overzealous" about? He's Middle-Ground-Man. He's No-Drama Obama. He's always will to give in to the other side, at least a little. The only thing he's being a bit pushy about these days is his jobs bill, because he knows that that's the only way to prod Congress into any action whatsoever.
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#143 Sep 25 2011 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
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OmegaVageta wrote:

It's not complicated, even in context. You do not want gay dudes looking at your junk in the shower, which is why you're opposed to DADT repeal.



Almalieque already wrote:
If that's what you gathered from my posts, then you can only fault yourself for a lack of understanding.

.......

I'm personally not affected by this ruling,



Just in case you have forgotten, I'm a Captain of the United States Army. I live in my own apartment/house with my own bathroom. Even now, I'm in Iraq and I have my own room. The communal showers are sectioned off with curtains. So the likelihood of a homosexual man seeing my junk in the 2 seconds it takes for me to jump in my shower during the times that I'm deployed is slim to none.

So, if you insist to argue your argument, that's fine, just realize that you're wrong.

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Showering together is not really a unique military thing. How is this any different from using a gym shower? Lots of them aren't separated, and dudes use them all the time.

If you think there aren't any gay people at gyms, you are really kidding yourself


The answer is that you don't have to change or shower at the gym. You can do that at home. When you are at home, i.e. the field/sandbox, where that is the only source of a shower, then you no longer have that choice.
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#144 Sep 25 2011 at 1:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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The communal showers are sectioned off with curtains. So the likelihood of a homosexual man seeing my junk in the 2 seconds it takes for me to jump in my shower during the times that I'm deployed is slim to none.


Well, then it's official, there's absolutely no logical reason to oppose the repeal of DADT.


Glad we solved that one.
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#145 Sep 25 2011 at 1:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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So the likelihood of a homosexual man seeing my junk in the 2 seconds it takes for me to jump in my shower during the times that I'm deployed is slim to none.
If it takes more than 2 seconds to locate your ******, I don't think you would need to worry about anyone checking you out anyways.
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#146 Sep 25 2011 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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The communal showers are sectioned off with curtains. So the likelihood of a homosexual man seeing my junk in the 2 seconds it takes for me to jump in my shower during the times that I'm deployed is slim to none.


Well, then it's official, there's absolutely no logical reason to oppose the repeal of DADT.


Glad we solved that one.

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So the likelihood of a homosexual man seeing my junk in the 2 seconds it takes for me to jump in my shower during the times that I'm deployed is slim to none.
If it takes more than 2 seconds to locate your ******, I don't think you would need to worry about anyone checking you out anyways.


Are you assuming that someone is purposely trying to look at my junk or assuming that others are minding their own business trying to shower?
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#147 Sep 25 2011 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
The communal showers are sectioned off with curtains. So the likelihood of a homosexual man seeing my junk in the 2 seconds it takes for me to jump in my shower during the times that I'm deployed is slim to none.


Well, then it's official, there's absolutely no logical reason to oppose the repeal of DADT.


Glad we solved that one.

Smiley: disappointed


Why be disappointed? You should be proud that you helped us solve this issue!
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#148 Sep 25 2011 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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So the likelihood of a homosexual man seeing my junk in the 2 seconds it takes for me to jump in my shower during the times that I'm deployed is slim to none.
If it takes more than 2 seconds to locate your ******, I don't think you would need to worry about anyone checking you out anyways.


Are you assuming that someone is purposely trying to look at my junk or assuming that others are minding their own business trying to shower?
It was just a silly **** joke, no need to ponder it.
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#149 Sep 25 2011 at 2:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I could tell there were a few young guys who found me sexually attractive by their first shocked widening of their eyes, hastily veiled, and a tendency to draw me like a goddess on the page, instead of my real form.


Smiley: um

You probaly shouldn't make a judgement call on that statement if you haven't seen her naked.

Just sayin'.
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#150 Sep 25 2011 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ari wrote:
I could tell there were a few young guys who found me sexually attractive by their first shocked widening of their eyes, hastily veiled, and a tendency to draw me like a goddess on the page, instead of my real form.


Smiley: um

You probaly shouldn't make a judgement call on that statement if you haven't seen her naked.

Just sayin'.
Sign me up for the viewing material needed to make a judgement call, then. Smiley: wink
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#151 Sep 25 2011 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Friar Bijou wrote:
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Ari wrote:
I could tell there were a few young guys who found me sexually attractive by their first shocked widening of their eyes, hastily veiled, and a tendency to draw me like a goddess on the page, instead of my real form.


Smiley: um

You probaly shouldn't make a judgement call on that statement if you haven't seen her naked.


Bijou, we all know that you haven't seen her, either.

I was actually just umming because that whole thing read like a romance novel.
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