Don't ask, don't tell, don't persueFollow

Not a problem. I could see you floundering.


...and there you go under the water again


I noticed that your "evidence" regarding the poll's failings was pretty weak and laughable. You then went off on one of your usual half-cocked bits where you try to prove how little you understand polling. Was the actual topic at hand "Let's talk about polls without knowing what we're talking about"? If so, I'm sorry I disrupted your in-depth take on it.

Edited, Nov 18th 2011 1:08pm by Jophiel

Such as what? You think creating a poll over the removal of DADT without actually ever asking you if you support it or not "pretty weak and laughable"?



Are you telling me that you can accurately determine a population's opinion on a highly divided subject by only polling a fraction of 1% of the total population?



Do you or do you not believe that FOX news is more conservative than CNN and CNN is more liberal than FOX news?


Edited, Nov 18th 2011 9:24pm by Almalieque

Any statistician can give you an answer for that one. Then while you're at it ask a politician how to take the results out of context.

Good thing there's a difference between mathematicians and statisticians. Stats are done to social standards. There is no bias in math.

Good thing there's a difference between mathematicians and statisticians. Stats are done to social standards. There is no bias in math.

Such as the use of advocacy agencies and editorial columns.


As others have pointed out, you just don't understand stats. That's fine, I guess, but you should probably stop talking about them in that case.


Sure. It's not especially relevant though for several reasons.

I'd get my money back if I were you.

Gbaji? Dat j00 with the stock "Oh, I knows a guy!" answer?

You think creating a poll over the removal of DADT without actually ever asking you if you support it or not "pretty weak and laughable"?



You didn't answer the question.



What are those reasons?

I wonder what the refund policy is for University of Phoenix online courses.

Depends on the purpose of the poll.


You mean I didn't answer it to your liking


Polling firms, aggregation of results, etc. You'll excuse me for not spending the keystrokes on details when you're still getting your mind blown by polling sample sizes.

Besides the fact I didn't take any high level stat class from UoP, there would be no point in refunding money that I didn't spend, because it would just go back to the government. Thanks for help paying for my loldegree! I got at least 2 more to go from the government.

If DADT should remain in effect or not. Do you think it's "pretty weak and laughable" to point out sources on both sides of the argument that stated that the actual poll never asked if DADT should remain in effect in a poll to determine if DADT should remain in effect?



Um no. You gave a response, but you never answered the question.



You say that but here you are "wasting keystrokes"... If your concern were wasting keystrokes, then according to your opinion of me, you shouldn't even be talking to me. So, obviously, that isn't your concern.

If Fox News and CNN are two respectful and "reliable" sources and they too have biases, what makes you believe that others aren't biased as well? If the same polls are done on both stations and the results are completely differently, shouldn't that tell you something? Most of the CNN viewers will vote liberal and most of the Fox news viewers will vote conservative. So a DEM president will more likely have higher approval ratings on CNN than on FOX news and vice versa with a Republican president, even though both polls are done identically.