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That's why I need to vote Perry in the primaries!

OMG Operation Chaos!!!

With only Tea Party support, the nominee may as well just stay home. There's a reason why the Obama campaign is crossing their fingers for Rick "Social Security is a monstrous lie" Perry.

The only way it truly becomes an issue is if the GOP candidate is so far out from the TP, that they field their own candidate, otherwise, one would think, selling the GOP candidate should be easy as it's the GOP candidate or that Commie *******.

Typically, I'm a fairly rational person, so yes, I'd think that. I know I'm probably wrong, but I've got to throw my fellow conservatives a bone.

BTW. I suspect that's exactly what Sarah Palin is doing right now. Not planning to run if the GOP doesn't field the right candidate, but keeping the Tea Party movement involved and active regardless of whom the GOP fields. If the Tea Party is firmly attached to one or two candidates and those candidates don't win the primary, the situation you mention could happen. But if you have someone who isn't in the ring acting as the Tea Party spokesperson, she can step in and get those members to support whomever wins the primary. This way you don't have a falling off of support (or as much of one) when a groups preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination.


It's entirely possible she's a complete moron and is planning on jumping into the ring at the very last moment, but I just suspect that behind the scenes power-broker is a much better role for her right now. On some level I think she's holding a grudge for what the Obama campaign (and their friends) did to her in 2008, and is willing to essentially campaign for anyone who'll take on Obama. And building this support structure without running herself is a perfect way of doing that. Dunno, could just be whimsical fantasy, but it's why I'd be doing what she's doing, if I were doing it (does that make sense?).

The only thing Palin is doing is promoting her own brand. She was out of the race the moment Bachmann entered it as Palin doesn't have the personality to share the spotlight with someone else who has an identical message. But she'll keep pretending to have some chance of entering so people will keep giving her media time (funny how the "lamestream media" isn't so bad then... heh) and try to keep herself relevant for another six months or so.

Palin isn't popular outside of her core group and Bachman and Perry both proved that they can take her message further than she ever could. 2012 was her one chance because no one will care about her in 2016 but collecting an easy paycheck from FOX was more valuable to her than running. I don't say that insultingly; she had no chance of winning anyway so she might as well stay where she belongs.

Speaking of the Tea Party, Romney's measured "Well, if they're for tax reform then yeah, I'm for the Tea Party" didn't go past me unnoticed. He knows he'll need their votes and appeal to them at the basic "jobs & taxes" level while trying to stay away from the fringe element.

I lol'd.



Maybe there is a god?

Tell that to Dalton Mcguinty who just proposed a 10K Tax Credit to Corporations to Hire Skilled Immigrants. Right after the Ontario Government has spent about 580 million in paying for Second Career Training for the thousands of laid of workers. Its stupid, but a month before the election here, why commit political suicide. ******* idiot. I swear to god politicians are some of the stupidest people on this planet. 500K unemployed in the province, lets use their money to bring in foreign labor....Idiot.

Actually, I have to agree (in nicer language) with Varus here. It makes sense that the most progressive politicians in the conservative party are going to be liked more by progressive citizens, and the most conservative politicians in the progressive party are going to be liked more by conservative citizens.

For instance, in Australia, the major conservative party, The Coalition, who I wouldn't vote for in a pink fit, had Peter Costello and Malcolm Turnbull as major players, Ministers (Secretaries) and (very briefly) Leaders. I thought both of them were intelligent, compassionate men, and quite liked them. They were socially progressive, but economically conservative. Sadly, but unsurprisingly, their rises to power were brief, as people in their own party, and Coalition voters, didn't like them.

On the principles that People Are Stupid, Scum Rises To The Top, and Your Electronic Voting Systems Have Been Compromised, I'm going to predict you get Bachmann for POTUS.

I think Romney would be the most serious threat to Obama if he can get through the primaries. I don't know if I'd vote for him myself in the general election, but I don't think I'd open a vein if he got elected, either. The problem is, he's going to have a rough time winning anything in the bible belt or anywhere else where mormons are scary.