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#52 Sep 05 2011 at 4:32 PM Rating: Good
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#53 Sep 05 2011 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
Some guy with a fake news show shows clips of congress and the press holding these weasels' feet to the fire. I don't see where the hidden corruption is, it's all being brought out into the light.
#54 Sep 05 2011 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
Admiral Lubriderm wrote:
Some guy with a fake news show shows clips of congress and the press holding these weasels' feet to the fire. I don't see where the hidden corruption is, it's all being brought out into the light.


First of all, this isn't a "fake news" show. Secondly, I told you that it takes time to explain and that includes the players. The people in the video are some of the puppets which are part of the FED. For example, I'm sure you heard Obama talking about eliminating lobbying prior to him taking office. The FED are the primary lobbyists because they control the banks and the power associated with them. The Koch brothers are key lobbyists if you need more names to further your own research. So is the Rockefeller clan and anyone associated with these big bankers.

I'm disappointed this stuff isn't common knowledge to you. Insider trading and corruption go hand and hand in business. We see it all the time, but for some reason, people don't want to believe it can happen on the grand scale. Think about it like this. Every person no matter how rich or powerful they are wants more, it's human nature. The super rich elite class can change laws because they buy off their politicians. If you don't want to believe that, just take a quick look at Obama's record or Bush for that matter. Haliburtion's stock doubled while I was serving in Iraq. It was just coincidence right that Bush/Cheney's company just happened to be there as paid contractors, right.

Or how about Obamacare? You know not a single GOP voted for it and the public was told to wait until it passed to learn about it. Do you know that 64% of all new businesses are small business in the past 15 years? It might shock you to know that 1/8 of every small business will have no choice to terminate their health care plan for employees because of the 40% tax to the industry. Or how about in 2016 you'll be fined for not having health care, $695 bucks or 2.5% of your annual salary whichever is higher. Do I need to go on?

The point is politics and the banking industry is corrupt. The FEDs interviewed in the clip don't care if they have to print more money or want to believe gold is a valid currency. Go check your local retailers, pal. I recently checked a few by my house and gold has tripled in the past month. You might not know this stuff and I'm not trying to call you out. I'm hoping to educate and make people wake up and realize we are in serious trouble. All this bickering and pwning each other isn't going to help when the truth finally dons on people. The morale of the story is this. If you don't trust me and I have no motive to mislead you, what about those that have a reason to lie to you? I employ you to use some critical thinking and stop responding with snippy comebacks. Peace
#55 Sep 05 2011 at 5:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Do I need to go on?
Please do. This is enlightening.
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#56 Sep 05 2011 at 5:43 PM Rating: Good
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#57 Sep 05 2011 at 5:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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I really think you guys should start typing it out as FED. Looks better and more ominous that way.
#58 Sep 05 2011 at 5:50 PM Rating: Default
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Please do. This is enlightening.


Sadly I don't believe your intention here was to be serious. I'm interested in hearing your views though on the subject. Maybe if I could relate better to people's own perceptions it might help to explain things more.
#59 Sep 05 2011 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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First of all, this isn't a "fake news" show.
Yes it is.
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Or how about Obamacare? You know not a single GOP voted for it
I never said I supported partisan politics. Nor do most people here when it comes down to it.
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and the public was told to wait until it passed to learn about it.
That was Pelosi. Were I in San Fansisco I wouldn't vote for her just because of that comment. If I were a Democratic congressman, I wouldn't support her as party leader.
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It might shock you to know that 1/8 of every small business will have no choice to terminate their health care plan for employees because of the 40% tax to the industry.
As far as crystal balls go, do you rent or own?
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The point is politics and the banking industry is corrupt.
Politics and the banking industry are corrupt.
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The FEDs interviewed in the clip don't care if they have to print more money or want to believe gold is a valid currency. Go check your local retailers, pal. I recently checked a few by my house and gold has tripled in the past month
Realistically, gold moved from a currency to a commodity in the 1700s or earlier. Also, the price of gold hasn't tripled in the last 30 years, never mind the last month.
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If you don't trust me and I have no motive to mislead you, what about those that have a reason to lie to you? I employ you to use some critical thinking and stop responding with snippy comebacks.
I don't think you are trying to mislead anyone but rather have been mislead yourself and snippy comebacks are the best way to deal with delusional people, at least on an internet message board.
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Please do. This is enlightening.


Sadly I don't believe your intention here was to be serious.
No, I'm serious. I often enjoy hearing crazy ideas. Sometimes they have some basis for merit and if not, then it's entertaining to see how far off the deep end someone may be.
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#62 Sep 05 2011 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
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No, I'm serious. I often enjoy hearing crazy ideas. Sometimes they have some basis for merit and if not, then it's entertaining to see how far off the deep end someone may be.


My best guess would be that Shadow is talking about the kind of stuff in this video.

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/45389/The-American-Dream-Complete-Film-HD-Federal-Reserve-Scam/


Also, if you have time to kill you can just go to: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ and look under "Economics". They have about 7 pages worth, much of it about the FED and such.

Just a heads up. On this site "Documentary" applies to a style, not to a films factual content.
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#63 Sep 05 2011 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, Lube, from what I can tell gold has done more than that in the past twelve years or so, from some 300+ in 2000 to whatever it is now- 1800-1900.
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I have my doubts of the worth of currency created with yellowcake uranium. Smiley: dubious
My understanding is that it's highly coveted in Iraq.
Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't want to walk around with it in my pockets.
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#65 Sep 05 2011 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes it is.


So what is not a fake news show? I know, you must mean FOX NEWS right? Because we all know FOX is fair and balanced. Wait... no it's not. CNN then, right? Nope, they couldn't cover a story if it was sent to them wrapped in a bow. None of the mainstream media can cover a story anymore without biased politics interfering. But it's ok for them to be biased, right?

As for your gold comment, I've talked with friends that work with gold at the retailer level. They've told me gold has jumped by 3x so I'm going off their word, not yours. I've also heard stock prices talking about gold prices and it's going up exponentially.
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#67 Sep 05 2011 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
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None of the mainstream media can cover a story anymore without biased politics interfering
I agree with you there. No snarky comments or anything.
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As for your gold comment, I've talked with friends that work with gold at the retailer level. They've told me gold has jumped by 3x so I'm going off their word, not yours. I've also heard stock prices talking about gold prices and it's going up exponentially.

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It turns out that neither of us were wrong. In the short term gold has shot up. But if history repeats itself, I really wouldn't want to be buying gold right now.

Edited, Sep 5th 2011 11:17pm by Lubriderm
#68 Sep 05 2011 at 9:48 PM Rating: Default
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I agree with you there. No snarky comments or anything.


Thank you, I appreciate that.

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It turns out that neither of us were wrong. In the short term gold has shot up. But if history repeats itself, I really wouldn't want to be buying gold right now.

Edited, Sep 5th 2011 11:17pm by Lubriderm


I think what really concerns me is I know how the FED is keeping the country alive. You hear it all the time how much money is borrowed from China to pay for these wars in the Middle East. Considering 60% of our national budget is defense, that doesn't give me warm fuzzy thoughts on our future of the dollar.

Point #2 Right after we defaulted on our debt, China was quoted as saying something about wanting a stronger world currency because the dollar is so weak right now and investors have all their stock in it.

Point #3 As a solider in the Iraq war invasion, I can tell you as soon as the government fell, their money was useless. All you would see was thousands of people marching down to Baghdad with wads of their old money in hand knowing it was useless selling it off as a souvenir. Most experts predict that the US economy will collapse no matter what we do, but the FED is stalling by printing more money. We sure can't afford to pay for these wars. I hate to say it, but gold has been around for over 6000 years. If an old country like Iraq can fall, so can our country. The FED is a private bank with control of global resources. As a matter of fact, 75% of all our money is out of the country. I'd rather have 10,000 worth of gold now than 10,000 dollars.
#69 Sep 05 2011 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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Point #2 Right after we defaulted on our debt, China was quoted as saying something about wanting a stronger world currency because the dollar is so weak right now and investors have all their stock in it.
We never defaulted. China made those comments prior to the credit downgrade which is what I think you meant when you said default.
#70 Sep 05 2011 at 10:13 PM Rating: Good
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#71 Sep 05 2011 at 10:20 PM Rating: Default
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We never defaulted. China made those comments prior to the credit downgrade which is what I think you meant when you said default.


You're correct, I meant credit downgrade. I need to proofread my posts more. My overall statement still stands though. The bubble is about to burst. I think you realize that printing more money doesn't helps us in the long run. It only postpones the financial problem until later. Are you against these illegal wars? Iraq Afghanistan etc...

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#72 Sep 05 2011 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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Are you against these illegal wars? Iraq Afghanistan etc...
Afghanistan was legit. Iraq wasn't. Lybia will probably work out since we went about it the right way (involved other nations; only provided support).
#73 Sep 06 2011 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
I was around a friends house once and he had one of his conspiracy theory friends visiting that day.

I'm starting to wonder if it was Shadowedge right about now because I'm getting some real eerie flashbacks...
#74 Sep 06 2011 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I was around a friends house once and he had one of his conspiracy theory friends visiting that day.

I'm starting to wonder if it was Shadowedge right about now because I'm getting some real eerie flashbacks...

I'm thinking Shadowedge is my brother-in-law's father.
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#75 Sep 06 2011 at 7:35 AM Rating: Good
I hope the gold bubble pops sometime between now and November 1012, just so I can listen to Hannity and Beck blaming Obama.
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Admiral Lubriderm wrote:
I hope the gold bubble pops sometime between now and November 1012, just so I can listen to Hannity and Beck blaming Obama.

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