Who needs vaccinesFollow

Glad I get the good stuff.

We must be reading different threads on Zam.

I've had very few vaccines as far as I'm aware and I am autistic...

I tend to agree with this. I also think that we over medicate for those borderline cases as well. I just got into a long discussion with a friend of mine about this last weekend. The short of it is that I believe that while there are some cases were severe emotional issues will require medication, this is overshadowed by the sheer number of kids we medicate for less severe cases, who in all likelihood would have worked through their issues in a year or so on their own, but now will never learn to.

What sparked this was a discussion about a niece of hers who's been on some form of mood control drugs (not sure which one) for about a year, and is the tender age of 7. Yeah. She's a holy terror, but kids that ages are still developing their personalities. I just don't think that's something we should mess with lightly.

Edited, Aug 31st 2011 3:11pm by gbaji

Don't forget to get your booster shots as an adult. I came down with pertussis a few years ago because I'd never gotten re-immunized when I was 20, as per the recommendations. Whooping cough sucks. I was out of work for a full week, and then spent another two months with random coughing fits.

Although otherwise healthy adults are unlikely to die of the diseases if they forget boosters, any person who catches something acts as a vector, endangering the elderly and childern who are unvaccinated.

Seriously, I don't wish ill of anyone, especially children, but it's going to take a massive pandemic of scarlet fever killing thousands of unvaccinated kids to stop this nonsense for good. And that's a tragedy. I put it under the same mentality as the people who rebel against seatbelt laws. "But there are cases where people would have died if they were wearing a seatbelt!" And for every one of those, there are a thousand where people would have died it they hadn't worn a seatbelt, or did die because they weren't wearing one.

Edited, Sep 1st 2011 11:41am by catwho

Fortunately, select pretty blondes are also wealthy enough to afford excellent medical care so they can save their kids and go on The View, telling us that vaccines aren't really useful.

Scarlet fever is caused by a bacteria and there is not an immunization for it. But, insert measles into that statement and I agree 100%.
--DK

Disfigured? I'd certainly rather be autistic or dead.

Plain, ordinary aspirin is actually one of the oldest, safest drugs known to mankind. Even before the pure extracts of it were made, everyone knew that willowbark tea was a good pain reliever.

So you could add in aspirin to your medical ******* without worrying too much, I would say.

Reye's Syndrome says hi!

Edit: Ok it's fine for RDM but should have the warning for children in here anyways.

Edited, Sep 4th 2011 10:25am by Peimei

If the vast majority of people around you are vaccinated there's not a sufficient population to sustain a disease outbreak. You get the benefits of a vaccine without any of the potential real or imagined side effects. On the other hand, if a sufficient quantity of people aren't vaccinated, then the vaccine doesn't work as well. Enough exposure has the potential to make some vaccinated people sick, as many vaccines don't protect everyone to the same degree; potentially causing people to lose faith in a vaccine.

The best bet is to convince everyone else but you to get the shot. That way you don't have to risk the side effects, but you have de facto immunity anyway.

I call that phase 3: eliminating the witnesses.

Omg, I'm agreeing with Gbaji.

I think the proliferation/increase of "mental illness" is really a product of saavy marketing from pharmaceutical companies combined with parents and individuals who want to abdicate responsibility for their/their children's behavior and emotions.

Of course there are genuine cases of mental illness out there - but most of it is hokum. As someone who was stuffed with various psychiatric medications as a child, and told I would have to take them for the rest of my life (I haven't been on them for a decade now) - I am justifiably cynical about the whole business.

As for vaccines, /shrugs. I get my tetanus shots etc, but I had no interest in getting the pig flu vaccine or any other flu vaccine. The hype was suspicious to me and all the unfounded hysteria makes me wonder what the heck is going on. Seemed too much like someone trying to make a mint off of people who are easily terrified.