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#1 Aug 29 2011 at 10:56 PM Rating: Good
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Isn't a Christian, yet hates abortion.

Loathes taxes, yet loves war (or alternatively, the military).

Hates big government, yet favors mandatory drug testing.

Thinks tax breaks for the super-wealthy yields jobs, yet offers no proof.

Claims to be a rags-to-riches man, yet thinks m/billionaires are burdened by the tax code.

Thinks "leaving no marks" = not rape.

Thinks that a female who doesn't struggle = "not rape".

Thinks that a 36% max tax rate is crazy, yet fails to realize that the max rate (under a REP president) in the last 60 years exceeded 85%.

Thinks that "trickle down" works, even though a Reagan advisor said it was just a smoke screen to make the rich richer.



I'm super-confused. Is he (it) a poorly structured Turing machine?
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#2 Aug 30 2011 at 1:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.
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#3 Aug 30 2011 at 5:30 AM Rating: Default
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A giant ******** like gbaji needs a giant plug. Crazy people have some strange beliefs.
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#4 Aug 30 2011 at 6:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.

That's what everyone said about Varus, too.

Anyway, now Gbaji can come in and cry about how he's mistreated and how he's the last free thinker and everyone else is brainwashed so... yay.
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#5 Aug 30 2011 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.

That's what everyone said about Varus, too.

Anyway, now Gbaji can come in and cry about how he's mistreated and how he's the last free thinker and everyone else is brainwashed so... yay.
Isn't that how you +1, though?
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#6 Aug 30 2011 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bardalicious wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.

That's what everyone said about Varus, too.

Anyway, now Gbaji can come in and cry about how he's mistreated and how he's the last free thinker and everyone else is brainwashed so... yay.
Isn't that how you +30,000, though?
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#7 Aug 30 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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He has to be doing it on purpose.
Most of us are, just some of us have found ways to be much more efficient at it.
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#8 Aug 30 2011 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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#9 Aug 30 2011 at 2:46 PM Rating: Default
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It's kinda funny how consistently people turn to dismissal and denigration when they can't defend their own positions. Very predictable. What's also predictable is how completely you misrepresent my own positions. You pretty much got every single one wrong:

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Isn't a Christian, yet hates abortion.


I don't hate abortion. I think it's wrong to make people who do hate it pay for them. I also think it's wrong to manipulate the letter of the law to violate the spirit of the law.

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Loathes taxes, yet loves war (or alternatively, the military).


I believe that there are very few things that the federal government is required to do and that we should limit it to those things as much as possible. Providing for national defense is one of those things. Paying for people's health care, education, housing, and food is *not*. Why is this confusing to you? I've only said this a hundred times.

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Hates big government, yet favors mandatory drug testing.


As a means of curbing big government. Again, not a contradiction.

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Thinks tax breaks for the super-wealthy yields jobs, yet offers no proof.


I've offered proof many times. You just ignore it, presumably because it counters your own assumption and you can't actually counter it. Also, my position is more correctly stated as a belief that raising taxes on the wealthy (not just the "super-wealthy") will slow down job creation. It's a subtle difference, but it's worth pointing out.

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Claims to be a rags-to-riches man, yet thinks m/billionaires are burdened by the tax code.


Nope! I've clarified this dozens of times. Taxes don't burden the truly rich. They burden those who are helped by what they do with their money. Raising taxes on the rich doesn't hurt them, it hurts us.

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Thinks "leaving no marks" = not rape.

Thinks that a female who doesn't struggle = "not rape".


Sigh...

I said that if there are no marks, and if there was no struggle, then it's impossible to prove that a rape occurred. From a legal standpoint, no rape occurred. My argument was that working to "educate" women about date rape by attempting to talk them into making accusations in those cases is counterproductive. It's an approach that has a low probability of success, with a high probability of ruining both people's lives, and excepting very rare cases, any conviction obtained is as likely to be of an innocent man as not. It also makes it much easier for women to make false allegations of rape.

If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized. I just think that focusing on legal action after the fact isn't really helping anyone.

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Thinks that a 36% max tax rate is crazy, yet fails to realize that the max rate (under a REP president) in the last 60 years exceeded 85%.


What do you mean "fails to realize"? I'm fully aware of this and have talked about it in every thread about tax rates lately. What you "fail to realize" is that when those top marginal rates were that high, we didn't collect any more revenue as a percentage of GDP than we did in the mid 2000s with that top rate at 35%.

The question isn't whether it's been that high or higher, but whether it actually did what liberals claim (increase revenue). You're just parroting another in a long line of completely illogical liberal arguments that fail utterly to address the central question at hand.

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Thinks that "trickle down" works, even though a Reagan advisor said it was just a smoke screen to make the rich richer.


So instead of looking at actual data about what happens when profits are up versus when profits are down and the effect that has on jobs, wages, and standard of living, you're going to base your argument on cherry picking one disaffected guy who used to advise Reagan, then had a falling out with Bush, switched sides and is now a raving liberal. That was a weak argument when you heard someone on MSNBC make it. It's still just as weak.


Look at how things are, not how one guy you found you says what you want to believe says it is.

Edited, Aug 30th 2011 1:49pm by gbaji
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gbaji wrote:
It's kinda funny how consistently people turn to dismissal and denigration when they can't defend their own positions. Very predictable.

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What "date rape" is, is when a woman has *** with someone but says she didn't really want to.


Edited, Aug 30th 2011 3:53pm by Jophiel
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#11 Aug 30 2011 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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We can cut 20% from defense spending and still have an overstock of everything morons think is what that defense spending is about.
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#12 Aug 30 2011 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."
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Edited, Mar 21st 2011 2:14pm by Darqflame Lock Thread: Because Lubriderm is silly... ~ de geso

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We can cut 20% from defense spending and still have an overstock of everything morons think is what that defense spending is about.

She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar, custom-tooled cartridges at ten thousand rounds per minute. It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds.
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#15 Aug 30 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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That was a weak argument when you heard someone on MSNBC make it. It's still just as weak.

Look at how things are, not how one guy you found you says what you want to believe says it is.


1. I don't watch TV, so how did I learn this from MSNBC? I'll bet you've got a fascinating explanation!!

2. A talking head didn't say that. One of Reagan's own advisors did.
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Last week, I saw a guy with an eyepatch and a gold monocle and pointed him out to Flea as one of the most awesome things I've seen, ever. If I had an eyepatch and a gold monocle, I'd always dress up as Mr. Peanut but with a hook hand and a parrot.
#16 Aug 30 2011 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


Seems like educating both sides would be the prudent thing to do. I'm not understanding why this would be an either/or thing really.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."

Nice avatar. I want to not leave marks on her.
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gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.
I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."
Nice avatar. I want to not leave marks on her.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


Seems like educating both sides would be the prudent thing to do. I'm not understanding why this would be an either/or thing really.

I'm not understanding how "no" is not accepted as "no"... whether a man or a woman says it.

And no, an unconscious or incapacitated or frightened person can't give consent.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."

Nice avatar. I want to not leave marks on her.


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#22 Aug 30 2011 at 4:32 PM Rating: Good
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We can cut 20% from defense spending and still have an overstock of everything morons think is what that defense spending is about.
She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar, custom-tooled cartridges at ten thousand rounds per minute. It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds.
That, plus spending $32,000 on redecorating the main office.

We got really nice carpet in the office now.
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#23 Aug 30 2011 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji just likes to argue. It doesn't matter that his arguments are generally completely inconsistent from day to day. ****, he probably spends his time away from this place by arguing the liberal point of view on more conservative forums.
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#25 Aug 30 2011 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Admiral Lubriderm wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
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I'm like fox news, I shoot for accuracy.

But ending up with hyperbole/fabrication?
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


You could say that about any crime. And yet, crime just keeps on happening, doesn't it? So instead of taking some reasonable actions in response to the very real dangers in the world, you'd prefer to take a course of action which assumes that some magical force will make the world safe for us all? I'm not getting that at all.

How exactly do you propose to eliminate all possible situations where a woman could be easily victimized?
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