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#1 Aug 29 2011 at 10:56 PM Rating: Good
Isn't a Christian, yet hates abortion.

Loathes taxes, yet loves war (or alternatively, the military).

Hates big government, yet favors mandatory drug testing.

Thinks tax breaks for the super-wealthy yields jobs, yet offers no proof.

Claims to be a rags-to-riches man, yet thinks m/billionaires are burdened by the tax code.

Thinks "leaving no marks" = not rape.

Thinks that a female who doesn't struggle = "not rape".

Thinks that a 36% max tax rate is crazy, yet fails to realize that the max rate (under a REP president) in the last 60 years exceeded 85%.

Thinks that "trickle down" works, even though a Reagan advisor said it was just a smoke screen to make the rich richer.



I'm super-confused. Is he (it) a poorly structured Turing machine?
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#2 Aug 30 2011 at 1:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.
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A giant **** like gbaji needs a giant plug. Crazy people have some strange beliefs.
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I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.

That's what everyone said about Varus, too.

Anyway, now Gbaji can come in and cry about how he's mistreated and how he's the last free thinker and everyone else is brainwashed so... yay.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.

That's what everyone said about Varus, too.

Anyway, now Gbaji can come in and cry about how he's mistreated and how he's the last free thinker and everyone else is brainwashed so... yay.
Isn't that how you +1, though?
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Jophiel wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I've maintained for years that Gbaji is the best troll of them all. He has to be doing it on purpose. Any other explanation is scary.

That's what everyone said about Varus, too.

Anyway, now Gbaji can come in and cry about how he's mistreated and how he's the last free thinker and everyone else is brainwashed so... yay.
Isn't that how you +30,000, though?
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He has to be doing it on purpose.
Most of us are, just some of us have found ways to be much more efficient at it.
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It's kinda funny how consistently people turn to dismissal and denigration when they can't defend their own positions. Very predictable. What's also predictable is how completely you misrepresent my own positions. You pretty much got every single one wrong:

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Isn't a Christian, yet hates abortion.


I don't hate abortion. I think it's wrong to make people who do hate it pay for them. I also think it's wrong to manipulate the letter of the law to violate the spirit of the law.

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Loathes taxes, yet loves war (or alternatively, the military).


I believe that there are very few things that the federal government is required to do and that we should limit it to those things as much as possible. Providing for national defense is one of those things. Paying for people's health care, education, housing, and food is *not*. Why is this confusing to you? I've only said this a hundred times.

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Hates big government, yet favors mandatory drug testing.


As a means of curbing big government. Again, not a contradiction.

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Thinks tax breaks for the super-wealthy yields jobs, yet offers no proof.


I've offered proof many times. You just ignore it, presumably because it counters your own assumption and you can't actually counter it. Also, my position is more correctly stated as a belief that raising taxes on the wealthy (not just the "super-wealthy") will slow down job creation. It's a subtle difference, but it's worth pointing out.

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Claims to be a rags-to-riches man, yet thinks m/billionaires are burdened by the tax code.


Nope! I've clarified this dozens of times. Taxes don't burden the truly rich. They burden those who are helped by what they do with their money. Raising taxes on the rich doesn't hurt them, it hurts us.

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Thinks "leaving no marks" = not rape.

Thinks that a female who doesn't struggle = "not rape".


Sigh...

I said that if there are no marks, and if there was no struggle, then it's impossible to prove that a rape occurred. From a legal standpoint, no rape occurred. My argument was that working to "educate" women about date rape by attempting to talk them into making accusations in those cases is counterproductive. It's an approach that has a low probability of success, with a high probability of ruining both people's lives, and excepting very rare cases, any conviction obtained is as likely to be of an innocent man as not. It also makes it much easier for women to make false allegations of rape.

If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized. I just think that focusing on legal action after the fact isn't really helping anyone.

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Thinks that a 36% max tax rate is crazy, yet fails to realize that the max rate (under a REP president) in the last 60 years exceeded 85%.


What do you mean "fails to realize"? I'm fully aware of this and have talked about it in every thread about tax rates lately. What you "fail to realize" is that when those top marginal rates were that high, we didn't collect any more revenue as a percentage of GDP than we did in the mid 2000s with that top rate at 35%.

The question isn't whether it's been that high or higher, but whether it actually did what liberals claim (increase revenue). You're just parroting another in a long line of completely illogical liberal arguments that fail utterly to address the central question at hand.

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Thinks that "trickle down" works, even though a Reagan advisor said it was just a smoke screen to make the rich richer.


So instead of looking at actual data about what happens when profits are up versus when profits are down and the effect that has on jobs, wages, and standard of living, you're going to base your argument on cherry picking one disaffected guy who used to advise Reagan, then had a falling out with Bush, switched sides and is now a raving liberal. That was a weak argument when you heard someone on MSNBC make it. It's still just as weak.


Look at how things are, not how one guy you found you says what you want to believe says it is.

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It's kinda funny how consistently people turn to dismissal and denigration when they can't defend their own positions. Very predictable.

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What "date rape" is, is when a woman has **** with someone but says she didn't really want to.


Edited, Aug 30th 2011 3:53pm by Jophiel
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We can cut 20% from defense spending and still have an overstock of everything morons think is what that defense spending is about.
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If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."
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#15 Aug 30 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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That was a weak argument when you heard someone on MSNBC make it. It's still just as weak.

Look at how things are, not how one guy you found you says what you want to believe says it is.


1. I don't watch TV, so how did I learn this from MSNBC? I'll bet you've got a fascinating explanation!!

2. A talking head didn't say that. One of Reagan's own advisors did.
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If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


Seems like educating both sides would be the prudent thing to do. I'm not understanding why this would be an either/or thing really.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."

Nice avatar. I want to not leave marks on her.
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If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.
I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."
Nice avatar. I want to not leave marks on her.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


Seems like educating both sides would be the prudent thing to do. I'm not understanding why this would be an either/or thing really.

I'm not understanding how "no" is not accepted as "no"... whether a man or a woman says it.

And no, an unconscious or incapacitated or frightened person can't give consent.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."

Nice avatar. I want to not leave marks on her.


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We can cut 20% from defense spending and still have an overstock of everything morons think is what that defense spending is about.
She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar, custom-tooled cartridges at ten thousand rounds per minute. It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds.
That, plus spending $32,000 on redecorating the main office.

We got really nice carpet in the office now.
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gbaji just likes to argue. It doesn't matter that his arguments are generally completely inconsistent from day to day. Hell, he probably spends his time away from this place by arguing the liberal point of view on more conservative forums.
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Admiral Lubriderm wrote:
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I'm like fox news, I shoot for accuracy.

But ending up with hyperbole/fabrication?
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


You could say that about any crime. And yet, crime just keeps on happening, doesn't it? So instead of taking some reasonable actions in response to the very real dangers in the world, you'd prefer to take a course of action which assumes that some magical force will make the world safe for us all? I'm not getting that at all.

How exactly do you propose to eliminate all possible situations where a woman could be easily victimized?
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gbaji wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


You could say that about any crime. And yet, crime just keeps on happening, doesn't it? So instead of taking some reasonable actions in response to the very real dangers in the world, you'd prefer to take a course of action which assumes that some magical force will make the world safe for us all? I'm not getting that at all.

How exactly do you propose to eliminate all possible situations where a woman could be easily victimized?

Mandatory self defence classes paired with handbag sized guns, for her convenience, obviously.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."

Nice avatar. I want to not leave marks on her.


Jewel Staite is yummy. Smiley: nod

Oh **** yeah! Too bad her character in Firefly is so goddam annoying.
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Wish someone installed a personality in Summer Glau.

I know, right? If I wanted to bang a lobotomy victim I'd go with Babydoll.
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If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.
Life doesn't really have a Konami code

I mean, are you so daft that you think that this kind of "advice" isn't given all the time?

you don't need to answer


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I know, right? If I wanted to bang a lobotomy victim I'd go with Babydoll.
I've seen her in three things. Firefly, Terminator BlahBlahBlah Chronicles, and an episode of Big Bang Theory and every scene could have been done just as well with a cardboard cutout.
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I know, right? If I wanted to bang a lobotomy victim I'd go with Babydoll.
I've seen her in three things. Firefly, Terminator BlahBlahBlah Chronicles, and an episode of Big Bang Theory and every scene could have been done just as well with a cardboard cutout.

She's nice to look at, at least.
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You could say that about any crime. And yet, crime just keeps on happening, doesn't it?



And yet... I don't see you saying that those people need to have a lecture about how to keep themselves out of situations where they can be easily victimized.
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You could say that about any crime. And yet, crime just keeps on happening, doesn't it?



And yet... I don't see you saying that those people need to have a lecture about how to keep themselves out of situations where they can be easily victimized.

How dare those people open a convenience store in a busy city. They're just ASKING to be robbed.
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You could say that about any crime. And yet, crime just keeps on happening, doesn't it?



And yet... I don't see you saying that those people need to have a lecture about how to keep themselves out of situations where they can be easily victimized.

How dare those people open a convenience store in a busy city. They're just ASKING to be robbed.
As long as marks aren't left, I don't see how it's a crime.
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How exactly do you propose to eliminate all possible situations where a woman could be easily victimized?
Oh man really? Let me count the ways...





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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized.


I believe the point is that there shouldn't be a situation where a woman can be "easily victimized."


Seems like educating both sides would be the prudent thing to do. I'm not understanding why this would be an either/or thing really.

I'm not understanding how "no" is not accepted as "no"... whether a man or a woman says it.

And no, an unconscious or incapacitated or frightened person can't give consent.


You'll get no argument from me.

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Driver's Ed classes are prudent no?

Perhaps I just saw it more akin to those little signs at the park that say "high car-prowl area, don't leave valuables in car." The little signs are common sense, shouldn't be necessary, doesn't address the root cause, and places an undue burden on people who aren't the problem. Still it's nice to have a reminder.

Well I'm glad they're there at least... Smiley: rolleyes

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Perhaps I just saw it more akin to those little signs at the park that say "high car-prowl area, don't leave valuables in car." The little signs are common sense, shouldn't be necessary, doesn't address the root cause, and places an undue burden on people who aren't the problem. Still it's nice to have a reminder.


I don't think anyone would argue that. But surely you can see how that and this:

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If women's rights groups really wanted to do something about any form of rape, they'd be much much better off educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized. I just think that focusing on legal action after the fact isn't really helping anyone


are a tad different. Unless you are talking about tags on revealing clothing warning women that "This outfit may put you in the Rape Zone" and placing signs at the mouth of dark alleys reading "STOP! You could be raped if you walk down here!"

The problem is that saying we need to start "educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized" sounds an awful lot like "she was asking for it." And I don't think many people who have their car burglarized feel guilty and ashamed and hesitant to go to the police about it, so suggesting that a woman might have brought being raped on herself seems... well, more than a little counterproductive.

Also, I don't see a problem with focusing on getting RAPISTS off the street...

ETA: ALSO also, are men so unable to control themselves that there are situations that a woman can put herself in where men will go crazy and must rape her...? That seems insane to me.

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Belkira the Tulip wrote:

ETA: ALSO also, are men so unable to control themselves that there are situations that a woman can put herself in where men will go crazy and must rape her...? That seems insane to me.

It's like you don't read ANYthing some of the guys on here post...
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ETA: ALSO also, are men so unable to control themselves that there are situations that a woman can put herself in where men will go crazy and must rape her...? That seems insane to me.

It's like you don't read ANYthing some of the guys on here post...


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The problem is that saying we need to start "educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized" sounds an awful lot like "she was asking for it." And I don't think many people who have their car burglarized feel guilty and ashamed and hesitant to go to the police about it, so suggesting that a woman might have brought being raped on herself seems... well, more than a little counterproductive.


I'm sure there's a way to educate someone on the dangers of life without suggesting they brought those dangers on themselves. Suggesting it's somehow the victims fault is counter-productive at best. The blame should never be shifted off a perpetrator of a crime, but that doesn't mean you deny people information that could keep them from becoming a victim.

Belkira the Tulip wrote:

Also, I don't see a problem with focusing on getting RAPISTS off the street...


Neither do I.

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ETA: ALSO also, are men so unable to control themselves that there are situations that a woman can put herself in where men will go crazy and must rape her...? That seems insane to me.


I'm not saying men aren't in need of education either, for the record. Smiley: wink
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
ETA: ALSO also, are men so unable to control themselves that there are situations that a woman can put herself in where men will go crazy and must rape her...? That seems insane to me.


That's the Islamic opinion, but gbaji isn't a Muslim... Oh!
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someproteinguy wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:

The problem is that saying we need to start "educating women on how to avoid putting themselves into situations where they may be easily victimized" sounds an awful lot like "she was asking for it." And I don't think many people who have their car burglarized feel guilty and ashamed and hesitant to go to the police about it, so suggesting that a woman might have brought being raped on herself seems... well, more than a little counterproductive.


I'm sure there's a way to educate someone on the dangers of life without suggesting they brought those dangers on themselves. Suggesting it's somehow the victims fault is counter-productive at best. The blame should never be shifted off a perpetrator of a crime, but that doesn't mean you deny people information that could keep them from becoming a victim.


This. I'm not talking about what you wear or where you go. I'm talking about making smart choices when in social settings. Most date rape scenarios follow a pattern where the woman says "yes" about a half dozen times to different things before she ends out alone in a bedroom half undressed with the guy she then says "no" to. Even ignoring the question of what was actually said or done when it was just the two of them, we can correctly say that there were numerous things she could have done to avoid getting into that situation in the first place.


I also happen to believe that pushing the "press charges after the fact" side of the issue sends mixed messages. You're essentially teaching young women that they *should* expect to be perfectly safe even if they are passed out drunk, half dressed, in the bedroom of a guy she just met a couple hours ago and has been dirty dancing with. Sure. In a perfect world, we should expect every guy to be a perfect gentleman in any and all situations. Unfortunately, we don't live in that world.

We should be teaching young women to assume that they are *not* safe in that situation, and that they should take every precaution to not end out there. We should be teaching young women to make their own sexual choices on their own terms, and to not ever adopt a "wait and see how I feel later" approach. The guys who victimize women look for that. They know that they can take advantage of that and get that woman to take one step after another until she ends out somewhere she never wanted to be in the first place. And no amount of teaching women to press charges after the fact prevents this, and in the overwhelming number of cases, it doesn't help after the fact either.


I'll also disagree with the idea that people aren't embarrassed about other forms of crime. Date rape (aside from the obvious difference) is very similar to people who are scammed. Most people are very embarrassed when they get taken by a scam artist and often don't come forward in those cases either. It's the same sort of methodology as well. The scam artist looks for an easy mark. This is someone who seems willing to take that first step, then a second, then a third, etc, without stopping to think where it's all leading. People get scammed because they don't set a firm stopping point ahead of time. They don't say "At no point am I going to hand this person any cash". And for that reason, when the scammer asks them to hand them cash, they do it. Similarly, date rape victims didn't put a firm stopping point in their mind. They didn't start the evening saying "At no point am I going to kiss a guy", or "At no point am I going to take anyone home, or let them take me to their place", or even "I will only have 3 drinks this evening".


In the overwhelming majority of date rape cases, the woman involved said "yes" many times before saying "no". Perhaps instead of just teaching people that "no means no", we should teach people when they should be saying no?
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#49 Aug 31 2011 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent
Gbaji, rape is not ever the woman's fault. Ever. While it is prudent for people to protect themselves from certain crimes, they should not be just cast aside as 'she had it coming' for not doing so.
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I heard it's not rape if you don't have to use lube.
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