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#127 Sep 08 2011 at 2:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Some university students in Vancouver started a grow-op, and used the profits to buy equipment for their lab. When they were busted, the head cop commended them on their initiative.
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#128 Sep 08 2011 at 2:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can you people get in trouble for anything up there?

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Edited, Sep 8th 2011 1:16pm by someproteinguy
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#129 Sep 08 2011 at 2:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
Can you people get in trouble for anything up there?

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Edited, Sep 8th 2011 1:16pm by someproteinguy

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#130 Sep 08 2011 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well the current government is trying to turn our justice system into one that sends people to jail for everything.

To be fair, for the human rights stuff if you have enough backing to get lawyers and get the case sent to a real court, you'll usually be fine, but for most people taken to the HRT, they either don't have the resources, or it's not worth the hassle.

Edited, Sep 8th 2011 3:49pm by Xsarus
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#131 Sep 08 2011 at 3:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's just crazy, haha. I didn't realize it was like that in Canada. In most places in the States, you even *act* like you're drunk and you can get canned. Most states here are at-will employment which means you can be fired at any time for (almost) any reason, and your employer doesn't even have to tell you why.
#132 Sep 08 2011 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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We have probationary periods where as an employer, you don't need a reason (although if it's based on anything other than employment issues, Hello Human Rights!). After the probationary period, you need to prove there's an issue and show steps to curtail it. We use a 3 strike rule at our company. Verbal warning, written warning, suspension/termination. Typically, these need to be completely different issues. Showing up late and getting a verbal warning doesn't mean you can move to written warning because someone didn't complete a job responsibility.

Of course, you can always fire someone for whatever you want, you just run the risk of them fighting you in court if you didn't follow the proper steps. Most employees actually don't know the full extent of their rights.
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#133 Sep 08 2011 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, that is the thing - most employees have no idea what their rights are (or could be) so this doesn't affect as many businesses as it might otherwise.

And to be fair, a lot of companies break the rules:

http://www.vancouversun.com/Mistreated+tree+planters+still+unpaid+lawyer+says/5132276/story.html

The company broke all the rules, and never even paid the workers. Case still not closed.

Heck, I've been fired without cause before, but I simply demanded some severance (got it) and went on my way. They were horrible to work for anyway (I was using grease trap gloves to change hot fry oil that a had a HOLE in them for months! I asked day after day for proper safety equipment - I don't think it is unreasonable for me to ask for proper gloves to handle life threateningly hot oil)

As for those snot-nosed, spoiled street racers they should be the first ones thrown in Harper's new slammers.



Edited, Sep 8th 2011 4:05pm by Olorinus
#134 Sep 09 2011 at 4:14 AM Rating: Good
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Yes and no. According to labour laws, I usually don't even need to do that. According to Human Rights laws, I have to allow them time off to seek help, and then give them another chance when they're done. I can't discipline them for anything they've done while drunk (like telling a customer to @#%^ off). In some cases, I'd need to actually seek the help for them, possibly even pay them while they're off work, and in some case,s possibly even pay for the help should there be a cost with it. it varies from province to Province and sometimes, it can get quite ridiculous. I mean, I can fire them on the spot if I want to, but there is the possibility for legal recourse on their behalf, should they be smart enough to follow that course of action.
Whoah... that's a bit too much.
I mean, telling them to get help or GTFO makes sense, having to give them another chance if they come back after getting help I'm all for as well, paying sick leave or something while they're getting treated I can understand as well but paying for their treatment and not being able to hold them responsible for their deeds while they show up to work drunk is just... @#%^ that.
I'm with Aethien on this one. Yeech.

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Some university students in Vancouver started a grow-op, and used the profits to buy equipment for their lab. When they were busted, the head cop commended them on their initiative.

ROFL.
#135 Sep 09 2011 at 11:25 PM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
The human rights tribunal in Canada is a travesty.

Edited, Sep 8th 2011 2:42pm by Xsarus


Canada is weird.

I walk down the streets in the middle of the day and normal-looking people come up and ask me if I want to buy some pot. I politely decline, and they tell me to have a nice day.

Weird.

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Any Canadians up there wanna house BT and me? It sounds like Iowa but you don't have to give up smoking pot if you're busted with it. I'm down. Or, up.
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