96% of Florida welfare cash recipients pass drug tests.Follow

First of all you're headline is just a "little miss-leading" which I'm sure was a complete accident and certainly not the intention of the liberal web site you linked to.

It's not "96% of welfare recipients" it's 96% of NEW applicants and does not take into account the countless people already on welfare and other social programs and only those that applied in the last few weeks since the program was implemented were tested, yes it does state that eventually everyone will be tested but just in the beginning of the program it has already saved Florida tax payers money. (It's exactly one of the things Gov Rick Scott promised it would do)

And secondly, I don't agree with Rick Scott on this or any politician that wants to drug test U.S. citizens. The Government getting into the business of drug testing private citizens is IMO a very slippery slope not to mention I think unconstitutional.

Don't get me wrong I also think the government needs to get out of the welfare program also. "Social Programs" like welfare should be handled by non profit organization's and churches (with a a little and I mean little local government over-sight)at a local level which will help eliminate the huge amounts of waste and fraud that tends to happen with programs like this while individually helping people who truly do need help.


And on a personal note......

Joph said this:

I don't hang out in here much (I know you do and you think that's normal behavior) and I had never posted in this thread until now but I am apparently on your mind at least to the point where you sit at home thinking about me and to be honest I find that a little creepy.

So I am asking that everyone who reads this thread to please take note of this and if I ever turn up missing please give the police a starting point for whose backyard they should start looking in for my body.

Now if you will excuse me I'm gonna go make sure my doors and windows are locked.

Joph disposes of bodies in his backyard by chopping them up with a lawn mower. Do you have any idea how much it would cost taxpayers to dig up his entire backyard? If you're already dead, let's not go and cost taxpayers more money by digging up someone's backyard just to find the pieces of your body.

Churches here in the south are really really good at wasting money on things like Joel Osteen's BMW

You see people in a part of town that is unfamiliar to you. You call it the poor part of town, assume all the folks you see there (excluding yourself of course) are on welfare and buying unnecessary stuff with your money. And this is only the part you can see. Those same lazy slobs are probably stealing your bandwidth, playing your mmos and camping your favorite farm spot.

For the vast majority of people on TANF (welfare) it's temporary, it's necessary, and it's not a choice.

Man, I hope you are joking.

Commercial pilots are required to be in a random drug-testing pool, as are passenger train engineers, bus drivers, ferry boat drivers, etc etc.

Lots of companies require it of anyone that operates heavy machinery.

Of course alcohol is tricky because it's legal. The Breathalyzer isn't a bad idea.

Anyone here have to pass a drug test for their job?

I hear very few men do.

But long story short, low breast milk runs in her family, and we have a baby who's in the 100th percentile in weight and 99th percentile in height. 'Can't keep up' doesn't do it justice...

For some weird reason, I usually get drug tested every other month and it's called random.

Is testing really common practice down there? I've never heard of it being done up here except in law enforcement. I mean, what the hell do they care what you're doing in your free time?

Not that I don't agree that there are issues with random drug tests, it's not the same as if we were randomly testing random people within the whole population for the purpose of charging them with a crime. The idea is that you are attempting to gain something (employment, food stamps, welfare check, etc), and a condition of that is to take a drug test. You're free to not take the job, or not take the welfare check. So it's not a violation of your rights. It's a condition to get something you want.

It would be a violation of my rights for the government to force me to write scripts for 8 hours a day. However, it's completely reasonable for my employer to require me to do this as a condition for me getting a paycheck. Same deal with drug tests.

Shocking. Truly.

Would you support drug tests for drivers licenses? Bus passes?

So do you want people with a drug problem to starve to death or just steal stuff until we jail them and have to feed and house them?