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#1 Aug 18 2011 at 8:03 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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Well the liberal media and Obama took Egypt away from the people and gave it to the radical muslims and guess what? Now Egypts firing missles at Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/seven-killed-in-series-of-terrorist-attacks-in-southern-israel-1.379309

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#3 Aug 18 2011 at 8:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like a mortar attack actually, and no one was hurt.

The deaths in Israel were all done from within the country, not Egypt.
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#4 Aug 18 2011 at 8:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Mortars =/= Missiles
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#5 Aug 18 2011 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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They have similar letters. You're just too liberal to see the connection.
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One of the accounts says that one of the militants fired an anti-tank missile at a vehicle. Which is a missile but rather different from what "Egypt fires missiles at Israel" implies.
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This is actually just more proof that he hates America. There was a Taliban attack in Afghanistan that killed 26 recently, and what does varus report on? Egypt and Isreal, and a four person race war riot.

Edited, Aug 18th 2011 10:35am by lolgaxe
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So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?
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So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?

Uh, no? Why do you think they do?
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Peimei wrote:
So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?

Uh, no? Why do you think they do?


The rape, torture and brutality? The stolen land?
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Peimei wrote:
So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?

Uh, no? Why do you think they do?


The rape, torture and brutality? The stolen land?

Which fully justifies murdering civilians? Eh, I'm gonna say no to that...
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Peimei wrote:
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Peimei wrote:
So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?

Uh, no? Why do you think they do?


The rape, torture and brutality? The stolen land?


Lots of people have been squabbling over that hunk of desert for a long time. I'm sure there's enough blame to go around.
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The rape, torture and brutality? The stolen land?

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LockeColeMA wrote:
Peimei wrote:
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Peimei wrote:
So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?

Uh, no? Why do you think they do?


The rape, torture and brutality? The stolen land?

Which fully justifies murdering civilians? Eh, I'm gonna say no to that...


One could argue that since all israelies must preform military service there are no civilians......
Also justified no, fair cause yes. I'm not condoning what egypt does just saying its to be expected and both need to just blow each other up for good and be done with it.

Edited, Aug 18th 2011 12:37pm by Peimei
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One could argue that since all israelies must preform military service there are no civilians......
Also justified no, fair cause yes. I'm not condoning what egypt does just saying its to be expected and both need to just blow each other up for good and be done with it.


I suppose justified was the wrong term. I don't think the cause is warranted though. Nor would I hope that a mass genocide is the answer. No side is clean and clear in this, but I would never argue that militants indiscriminately murdering people is a better option than "get the f*ck over it."
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Peimei wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Peimei wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Peimei wrote:
So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?

Uh, no? Why do you think they do?


The rape, torture and brutality? The stolen land?

Which fully justifies murdering civilians? Eh, I'm gonna say no to that...


One could argue that since all israelies must preform military service there are no civilians......
Also justified no, fair cause yes. I'm not condoning what egypt does just saying its to be expected and both need to just blow each other up for good and be done with it.

Edited, Aug 18th 2011 12:37pm by Peimei


What a nuanced position.
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Dammit, Varus, get your facts right, you actually made me get my hopes up for nothing.

****, Egypt(or any neighbouring country for that matter) would totally be able to take the moral high ground in waging an offensive war against Israel. But this is clearly(and unfortunately) the work of militants, likely Palestinian in descent, likely angry at being kicked out of their homes so that Israeli families could have them. Still doesn't justify attacking civilians, it's not their fault their military and government leaders are edging ever closer to making Israel be like a bizarro **** Germany.
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Too lazy to go looking for cites but articles I read this morning said that it was Hamas militants from Gaza who went over the Gaza/Egyptian border and basically "went around" to the Egyptian/Israeli border.

Egypt recently asked Israel for permission to install another 1,000 soldiers in the border region (the terms of the 1973 peace agreement require them asking) to help secure it against this sort of thing so anyone praying for an Egyptian-Israeli war (ugh) will be disappointed for now.

Edit: Al-Jazeera reports that the militants were from the "Popular Resistance Committees", a charming bunch who made the news in 2004 when they stopped a car containing an unarmed pregnant Israeli woman and her four daughters (aged 2-11) and shot them all to death point blank. So "Yay!!" for anyone who kills Israelis! They all deserve it! Those little girls were the same thing as soldiers!!

Edited, Aug 18th 2011 1:27pm by Jophiel
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Too lazy to go looking for cites but articles I read this morning said that it was Hamas militants from Gaza who went over the Gaza/Egyptian border and basically "went around" to the Egyptian/Israeli border.

Egypt recently asked Israel for permission to install another 1,000 soldiers in the border region (the terms of the 1973 peace agreement require them asking) to help secure it against this sort of thing so anyone praying for an Egyptian-Israeli war (ugh) will be disappointed for now.

Yeah, how messy would that be, considering those two countries receive the bulk of our military aid. I mean, for someone who lives and breathes conspiracy as much as varus, why doesn't he see this as a ploy by the Pales to instigate such an event?
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How do you manage to turn something that had little to nothing to do with Obama and the liberal media and make it their fault? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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It's *all* their fault, duh! You've been brainwashed if you can't see it.
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With the possible exception of Egypt or Saudia arabia, the former because of their M1-A1 Abrahms,t he latter because of their air force, Israel would easily wipe the floor in a military engagement with any of its nearby neighbors. Thats without our assistance anymore too. None of the governments in the area really want a war with israel yet. Given current trends, another 10 years, maybe some of the others would have a shot too, but doubtful. At any rate, militants, spies, insurgents, etc, send them in with empty pockets and no identifiable marks, and whos to say if they are soldiers or terrorists? Israel wants to keep the alert status high enough they can continue their military buildup with popular support, the surrounding countries turn a blind eye because it makes them look good without actually offending Israel, and so things continue for another thousand years.
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Peimei wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Peimei wrote:
So Muslims don't have fair cause to want to blow israel up?

Uh, no? Why do you think they do?


The rape, torture and brutality? The stolen land?

Do you know the difference between Muslims and Palestinians? Go on, look it up, I'll wait.
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