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#1 Aug 11 2011 at 7:34 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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Proof once again of why liberals should never be allowed to have any power of any kind.

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In Pennsylvania a cell phone is now a civil right.

Liberals through a federal program are forcing companies into giving away cell phones and 250 minutes a month to people on public assistance (welfare) and to recoup their money those companies have raised their rates on people who actually work and pay their own bills so in the end it's the tax payers who get to pay for it.


But liberals get to feel good about themselves though......


You have the government forcing a business into giving away their product and telling them to either take the loss or recoup by charging more to other people and yet you libs can't understand why "The Mean Capitalist" keep taking the jobs to other states or countries.

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We should stop paying taxes, too. **** liberals!
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raised their rates on people who actually work and pay their own bills so in the end it's the tax payers who get to pay for it.

As someone who works, owns a cell phone and pays taxes: Stop whining.

Edit: Haha... the guy who called it a "right" was someone from Assurance Wireless, one of the two companies involved in supplying the phones/time. According to the article:
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"The program is about peace of mind," Carter said. "It's one less bill that someone has to pay, so they can pay their rent or for day care. ... It is a right to have peace of mind."
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Assurance pays for its advertising. Agreements run for one year; every 12 months, customers must provide proof of income. The eventual goal, Carter said, is to retain them as paying customers.


Yeah, they are sooooooo forced by liberals to give phones away Smiley: laugh

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The FCC hasn't made a good decision since the 70s. Why start now?
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That New York Post article is (no shocker here) terrible.

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Recently, a federal government program called the Universal Service Fund came to the Keystone State...

The USF has been around for 15+ years. It actually has roots going further back than that in other programs designed to ensure that people had adequate phone service. It's funded by telecommunications companies who naturally recoup it from their customers. What's happening here is that a couple economy-grade cell phone providers are using some of the monies from the fund to provide free phone service to low-income people... in the hopes that they'll eventually become paying customers.

This isn't a "liberal" thing; the Telecommunications Act of 1996 who codified the modern Universal Service Fund passed 414-16 in the House and 91-6 in the Senate. This isn't liberals forcing anything; these companies are in it for the potential customers and are funding the service with the USF. What this is is your standard case of a tool like ThiefX reading something in a rag like the Post and running off to pee himself in his excitement of crying about liberals Smiley: laugh
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#6 Aug 11 2011 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah. People have been getting free phones from the gubberment for a while now. Could we find something more lame to cry about?
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I think that cheap call and text only cell phones should be, if not a right, then very easy to access regardless of income. I felt bad because when I upgraded my phone today, they just dumped my old phone in the recycle bin. I was thinking, you know, some homeless guy who is trying to find a job and get some help but doesn't have any means for employers to contact him after interviews could have used that. They don't need to be the latest and greatest to take incoming calls - any cell phone made in the last twenty years can do that. It just needs to be functional.

So I think the cell phone provider has a good idea. It helps out people who are in trouble financially, and as they say they are hoping, maybe those folks will stick with them once things turn for the better.
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You just have to shake your head at the whole thing. Now about that money under the table they
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Proof once again of why liberals should never be allowed to have any power of any kind.

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In Pennsylvania a cell phone is now a civil right.

Liberals through a federal program are forcing companies into giving away cell phones and 250 minutes a month to people on public assistance (welfare) and to recoup their money those companies have raised their rates on people who actually work and pay their own bills so in the end it's the tax payers who get to pay for it.


But liberals get to feel good about themselves though......


You have the government forcing a business into giving away their product and telling them to either take the loss or recoup by charging more to other people and yet you libs can't understand why "The Mean Capitalist" keep taking the jobs to other states or countries.

I bet your cellphone bill went up just from hearing about this atrocity. Smiley: oyvey
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You just have to shake your head at the whole thing. Now about that money under the table they
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Smiley: confused
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#11 Aug 12 2011 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
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I've had a phone through Assurance for a year now and I hate the little ******. It's very cheaply made and a pain to use compare to the phone I use to pay for through my daughter's ex family plan. I couldn't really afford the phone I had before, but my family wanted to make sure I had one in case I needed to reach them or 911 suddenly.

Working Pay phones are very hard to find, when one ccan't walk more then a few blocks and having a Lifeline cell phone service with 250 minutes that I can keep on my person instead of a Lifeline home phone that only has 30 calls out, before I would have to start paying 10 cents makes a lot of sense.

Then I don't expect to have to stay with a free cell phone forever, as I hope that my Jewelry business takes off and I can get a data phone.
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Since I'm still out of work, we've had to cut some of our expenses. One was our cell phone plan. My husband got some little 50 buck a month phone but that left me with nothing (we don't have a land line). So my sister had qualified for those Assurance phones and she wasn't using hers, so she sent it to me. Elne's right, these things are crap. I bet they cost 75 cents to make. They are good for calls and that's it. All they make you want to do is ditch them and get a real phone with a real plan. Which is exactly what I'll be doing once we get caught up and I get back to work.
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The phones are cheap and have one purpose allow people to use them to find work so they can use a real phone.

On a completely unrelated note. Where is the spilled milk?
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ElneClare wrote:
I've had a phone through Assurance for a year now and I hate the little ******. It's very cheaply made
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Elne's right, these things are crap. I bet they cost 75 cents to make.

I see Assurance's plan to create lasting customers is going along swimmingly Smiley: laugh
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#15varusword75, Posted: Aug 12 2011 at 10:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just think when you liberals make cable tv a right you'll be paying for mine. Wonder if they'll give me a rebate if I turn it down.
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Just think when you liberals make cable tv a right you'll be paying for mine.
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Just think when you liberals make cable tv a right you'll be paying for mine. Wonder if they'll give me a rebate if I turn it down.

Based off this story, you mean "When Comcast makes cable TV a right..."
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varusword75 wrote:
Just think when you liberals make cable tv a right you'll be paying for mine. Wonder if they'll give me a rebate if I turn it down.





TV isn't a must have in life, a telephone be it land line or mobile pretty much is.
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#19 Aug 12 2011 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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Elne's right, these things are crap. I bet they cost 75 cents to make. They are good for calls and that's it.

Wait...cell phone do more than make phone calls? Huh.










Haha, I'm olde. My phone (Net10), cheap as it is, can do internet and text and stuff, but I only use it for calls.Smiley: tongue
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varusword75 wrote:
Just think when you liberals make cable tv a right you'll be paying for mine. Wonder if they'll give me a rebate if I turn it down.

Cable TV is going to all but disappear in the next five years...
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...and yet no ******** about the telecom subsidies
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Haha, I'm olde. My phone (Net10), cheap as it is, can do internet and text and stuff, but I only use it for calls.Smiley: tongue
That's only because you can't read the tiny text, you blind *******.
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Who said that?Smiley: confused[:squint:]
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Who said that?Smiley: confused[:squint:]
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**** I am so mad that these people have phones! If people who are between jobs can put a phone number on their resume all the spoiled kids from the suburbs looking for summer jobs to raise money for weed and booze will have to work harder to get hired at crap jobs...
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****, I just upgraded my phone for free, when I was waiting till next week to put down the $99. Thanks Best Buy!
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varusword75 wrote:
Just think when you liberals make cable tv a right you'll be paying for mine. Wonder if they'll give me a rebate if I turn it down.

Cable TV is going to all but disappear in the next five years...

All TV in the next 10..?.

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Just think when you liberals make cable tv a right you'll be paying for mine. Wonder if they'll give me a rebate if I turn it down.

Cable TV is going to all but disappear in the next five years...

All TV in the next 10..?.

This guy is going to be so disappointed.
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With the prevalence of online, streaming content...yeah the standard (and even newer) television broadcast models will be extinct rather soon. What really makes this apparent is that online/streaming providers (like Netflix) are starting to produce their own content.
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The only reason I keep cable TV is that is because of the 'bundle' discount. It's basically the same price for the basic package + internet as it is for the internet alone. I also expect cable TV to go the way of the home phone.
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Cable telelvision (and network TV) will continue until someone
(A) Figures out a way to profit off online content without requiring subscriptions of a half-dozen online services
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(B) Figures out a way to produce a central clearinghouse for locating content

By the second one, I mean that networks still rely on channel surfing and lead-in shows to get people to watch their stuff. If everything is fragmented across different sites, viewership (and profit) suffers. Your average TV viewer doesn't pirate episodes of their shows so if they see them online, it'll be at the consent of the network; either because NBC puts it on their site or because they lease the episode to Hulu, iTunes, Amazon or whoever. They're still very much in control of how it gets out there and television is still the best way for them to do it.
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What Joph said.

In some ways, I wouldn't miss TV for the shows I already know about, but I'd miss the channel surfing to find new stuff. Or on those days that I just don't know what I feel like watching.
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I'm sure TV will be around for a long while, but increasingly it will become more like radio as a service, probably to eventually include very cheap or free service subscriptions which act primarily as advertisements themselves.
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