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How dare you guys question the legitimacy of iPetitions.com?!

Next time, try.

Look, obviously global warming is a point of contention to some people (I find it fascinating that people criticize my 'trolling' when varus threads get 80+ replies on average), but I think the more important question is why you would oppose measures to avoid it, regardless of your "belief" in it. Is there some reason to advocate industrial pollution? What exactly is the benefit to having lax environmental standards?

If your answer is corporate profit then you should be summarily executed.

Edited, Jul 29th 2011 11:20am by zukunftsangst

Are you asking to be held to Varus standards? You should strive for better than that.

I was hoping there was something that I missed.

Well, when you break it down, the ozone is basically like the skin for the earth, or something.

So, a petition signed by 30'000 people who, in their careers have studied climate change about as much as a dog groomer? I'm convinced!

A dermatologist is as credible to global warming as a fiction writer is to spirituality.

I think it was meant as a subtle dig at Scientology.

Or you may have already known this. Carry on.

Who do you suppose makes more money, the scientist studying global climate change or the oil company CEO?

If you're going to follow the money trail to find answers, try not to get lost.







Edited, Jul 29th 2011 7:06pm by Elinda

Again Varus, that makes no sense. If a Geologist was simply after money, he/she would not be working in academia. He/she would be working for Exxon.

Maybe you take off early today. Go fishing or something. Rest up for the weekend and start fresh Monday morning.

The difference is, only one of the two has a vested interest in lying if the truth means financial ruin.

Absolutely wrong. No scientist (who doesn't work in industry) is in it for the money. It's absurd to believe this to be true: the amount of time and money it takes to graduate with a PHD in the US is absurd. You don't spend the time if you don't have a personal passion for learning and expanding humanity's understanding.

When someone is a corporate shill, it is easy to trace. Their funding will come directly from a biased source. Those "scientists" findings can be questioned and often downright ignored. But government funded university scientists have no vested interest in any outcome. You propose an area of study, you get funding for said study, and you report your findings. Those findings are then peer reviewed in a journal of other scientists in the field. It doesn't get more streamlined than that.

So again, who has more to gain? The publicly-funded scientist who will publish his findings, one way or another, to a peer review panel, or a corporate/political shill "scientist" who has been payed to support whatever viewpoint costs his parent company less money?

Something I have been curious about in my lurkings around here. Why does Varus use different names like lagaga and Locked?

Anyways, to be relevant, the claims that human made global warming is a liberal plot to control the uneducated masses or whatever it is being claimed just shows how willing the uneducated minorities are to being controlled. I mean, scientists, real scientists, continually back up and expand Global Warming. While there are exaggerated models out there, most scientists are trying there hardest to find the truth, because that is what science is about.

I know it is useless quoting a government agency with Varus around, but I for one trust the USGS. According to a USGS report, humans and our related activities have caused more gasses, primarily CO2, to be released into the atmosphere than volcanoes. If you are saying global warming is natural, volcanoes would be your most logical source for the gasses to come from.



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