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#127REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 9:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Locked,
#128 Aug 09 2011 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
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So you're justifying their behaviour as well. And you wonder why I call you people radicals.


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ITT, Varus fails to understand the on-going efforts of some Asylumites to impersonate him in order to draw ridicule to his racism.
#129 Aug 09 2011 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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How many cities are shut down because of one white guy with a gun?

Would I rather be inconvenienced or dead? Hrrmmm....

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And you still havn't answered whether or not Obama should make a statement addresssing these rioting mobs.

Seems like local matters to me. Are you advocating having the federal government pre-empt the state and local governments and take over?
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#130REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Joph,
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Slave obviously. You can always try and get free, trying to get back to life is a bit trickier.

You still haven't answered if you think Obama should take over this matter from the lower tiers of government.

Edited, Aug 9th 2011 10:42am by Jophiel
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#132REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 9:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#133 Aug 09 2011 at 9:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Turns out the riots in london were stared by blacks as well.

That makes about as much sense as saying the cops started them by shooting a black man.
#134 Aug 09 2011 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gumbo Galahad wrote:
Isn't the national guard generally used to put down mass rioting and civil unrest?
Not anymore. It's all been outsourced.
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#136 Aug 09 2011 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Isn't the national guard generally used to put down mass rioting and civil unrest?

Erm, states have their own national guards. So the federal government should take control there? Have these municipalities asked for federal assistance? Your opinion is that the federal government should just take over regardless?

Interesting.
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#137REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 9:52 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You people claim to be adults. Does ignoring a problem make it go away?
#138REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 9:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#139 Aug 09 2011 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gumbo Galahad wrote:
Does ignoring a problem make it go away?
Does whining about it and not actually doing anything help?
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#140 Aug 09 2011 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
varusword75 wrote:

Turns out the riots in london were stared by blacks as well.

That makes about as much sense as saying the cops started them by shooting a black man.

God started them by making black people.
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#141 Aug 09 2011 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Obviously these municipalities aren't doing anything, or don't have enough man power, to effectively deal with this crisis.

You're not answering the question. Should the federal government pre-empt state and local governments regardless of their requests? Yes or no.
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#142REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 11:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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If states can't keep the peace of course the federal govn should get involved.

Who makes that call if the state isn't asking for help? The federal government decides when it's time for the federal government to take over?
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#144REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 11:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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varusword75 wrote:
You didn't answer my question? Are you afraid to answer it? I answered your question. What am I saying, of course you're afraid to answer it.


Begging the question is a silly fallacy to make, even for you.
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You didn't answer my question?

Post #129. Try and keep up; that's where I started asking you about the role of the federal government in this.

So, again, who decides when it's time for the federal government to step in and take control from the state and local governments who haven't requested help?
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#147REDACTED, Posted: Aug 09 2011 at 3:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#148 Aug 09 2011 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I like how one minute varus whines about the government taking things away from him, and the next demands that the government take things away, and in both instances has no intentions of actually doing anything about either.
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How about when the deputy mayor for public safety admits the local municipalities are inequiped to deal with the situation.

So when a local "deputy mayor for public safety" says that, the federal government should leapfrog the local and state governments and seize control of the situation?

I'm just asking if you think this is correct or not.

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You sure didn't have a problem...

I'm not asking about me. I'm asking if you think the federal government should seize control over the lower tiers of government when a "deputy mayor for public safety" says things are hard whether they actually ask the federal government for assistance or not.
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#150 Aug 09 2011 at 4:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Does Obama have a responsibility to address race riots in major metropolitan areas?
No, that should be addressed locally, considering that it's, you know, a local issue.

Not sure why you're so keen on getting the federal government involved at the local level. I guess your partisan douchebaggery supersedes political ideology.
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#151 Aug 09 2011 at 9:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Does Obama have a responsibility to address race riots in major metropolitan areas? And if so what should he say?


Do you even watch TV news? I am not sure what it is like on America, but the Prime minister... I can't ever once remember talking about any specific crime, unless maybe it was a bill inspired by a particular case, but even thinking on it I can only remember provicial politians doing things like that.

I think when some terror suspects were arrested in Toronto the PM might have said something.

I think your term "race riots" is part of the problem here. I think what is going on in London - that's riots. We had a riot in Vancouver this year as well, but are what you are talking about riots? Are storefronts being burnt down? Are people looting?

I think the president would comment if that were the case, unless it is so widespread it is like incidences of cats getting hit by cars, but if that is the case, well, wow. I don't know where you get the idea that politicians can cover up stories - if the media wants to talk about things - then politicians will answer.

They can't help it. It is possible to avoid minor issues, but if the media wants blood on a story, they will get it; they can't avoid it. Most politicians will comment just to manage the message.
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