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We can't choose to follow his will or our own will, we have no choice because we are programmed. We could say that we are indeed following his will, because he determined how we would act in every possible situation and then placed us in a situation in which he knew our actions. So, our actions are according to his will, choice isn't involved at all.
You do understand that this "programming" as you are choosing to label it is the actual state of what it actually is. What I mean is that to Have any form or free will no matter how small or in what form is to be in a place Separate from God which is why we are here on this flawed rotting universe and not with God.. we are expected to choose this crazy thing that God has put there that will allow us through our own choice to have our fleshly evils washed away so that we may enter eternity in God's Kingdom. The Cross is what is there above all other empty philosophies. It really it the point of all existence; for people who truly Love.
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
Your analogy does not work because there is no other basis for an omnipotent/omniscient God granting free moral agency to beings so that they may recognize a state of being that is contrary to the Creator's will.
That is the point of the Free Will which God has given us. Will to turn toward Him or against Him. He had granted it as he had NOT granted it on dogs and cats and lizards.. you know?
I have no idea what you mean here, care to clarify?
You are speaking of flawed humans creating flawed robots for flawed purposes and trying to use that for an analogy for the entire purpose of human creation, I was just pointing out that there really can be no precendent of any such thing that we can try to come up with.
The Robots thing kind of works when I explain how I could just build a bunch of robots who said "I love you" when I pushed a button but then it would have no real value until I seperated them from my temporal existance through the act of granting them free will of their own... angels and other beings who all exist in the universe who have a choice between God and darkness. I was also saying that those animals don't seem to have to think about such things as we are discussing.
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Yes, but even your understanding of scripture is tainted. So your conclusions that come from your tainted understanding are also tainted. EVERYTHING you think, say, or do is tainted by evil. You can't say that you are inline with God's will because you are always tainted. The best you can hope to do is not make things worse, by not exercising your own will at all. The most good one can ever hope to do is to make no choices at all, because every choice is tainted. Being a slave is the best earthly life you could hope to live, and even better would be to die as soon as possible, because then you would only exercise your tainted will a minimum amount.
HAHA, now who's trolling.
When you have a relationship with God your life changes, my friend; so that no, everything that I touch isn't tainted.