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There are similar news stories about workers building Samsung products. Some broken-spirited oriental probably put a part into my Nooky (which, btw, i love more and more everyday). Apple claims to at least attempt to set some standards for it's suppliers. Who knows how sincere the efforts are. Here is their annual report on supplier responsibility.

Well, since they accidentally killed themselves, it is both an accident and a suicide, and they weren't intentionally trying to commit suicide but were intentional in the act itself, so "accidental suicide".

No that's an overdose.

Now I'm supposed to care about the standard of living in China as well?

Sorry, sister. That dog won't hunt.

There needs to be an awareness campaign. We can't just stand around while our dentists accidently suicide themselve with implements of toothy destruction.

I propose the start-up of the organization Forums Against Gaseous Sedation.

Steve Martin was the bad-*** biker dentist. :D

But you can consider accidental suicide to be something fundamentally different from suicide.

That is to say, the person intentionally took a course of action, and that action ended their life, but the ends were not the motivation (either because they were unknown, unlikely or somehow irrelevant).

I largely agree with you--suicide is intentional self-murder. Suicide modified by the adjective "accidental" is an oxymoron.

But I have no problem accepting "accidental suicide" to be a separate term with its own definition that is merely reminiscent of the root words (which really isn't that uncommon in English... at all).

So you want to just replace accidental death with accidental suicide?

Lol, fine. Except that accidental suicide would be a death you still caused, even if unintentionally. An accidental death isn't so specific (but is the proper term).

But accidental suicide still works as a term if you wish to be more specific. It's not perfect, since it actually refers to accidental self-murder (which does not require intention).

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This just made me wonder... can a Buddhist commit suicide? I mean, if you don't believe that the physical world even exists, you don't believe in death. So you can't intentionally kill yourself...

Edited, May 10th 2011 2:24pm by idiggory

You've been reading far too much gbaji if you actually believe this.

You people really will argue about anything.

I never claimed it's something that should be an official definition, nor did I try to redefine suicide to suit my needs. So it's not really a gbaji like inference. I'm just saying that accidental suicide, while technically illogical, is only such because suicide demands intention.

If you ignore that part of the definition (which I'm making clear that I'm doing), you have no problem.

Gbaji would just argue that everyone else was wrong, even after a definition was linked...

Right. And it's perfectly logical to call a red grape a red cherry because if you ignore the grape part it's just another little round red fruit.