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#52 May 10 2011 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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“There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In ****, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.


This doesn't sound to me like the words of someone who encouraged playing the stock market
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#53varusword75, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Guenny,
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But the Bible is pretty explicit when it comes to things we should and shouldn't do wouldn't you say?
Like gambling and premarital ***?
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But the Bible is pretty explicit when it comes to things we should and shouldn't do wouldn't you say?
Like gambling and premarital ***?
And judgement. Lots and lots of judgement.
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#57varusword75, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lolgax,
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"Gambling is okay because I use a different word and it confuses Jesus."

Check.

Edit: Oh, and any good gambler takes as little risk as possible. That's why they're good.

Edited, May 10th 2011 5:16pm by lolgaxe
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#59varusword75, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lolgax,
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varusword75 wrote:
I doubt you'd be saying this.
That gambling is a sin? No, I'd still be saying it.
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#61 May 10 2011 at 3:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
olo,

First of all Jesus didn't write that. I know you're trying to use christianity, something you obviously know very little about, to prove a point but you're failing miserably.

We reap what we sow. That's all you need to know.


It is coming out of the mouth of Jesus in the story. I know the bible wasn't written by Jesus but I thought you christians believed god had a hand in the writing of it.

Myself, I think it is a bunch of fairy tales largely cobbled together by manipulative bigots.
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#62 May 10 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am just the kind of old schooler who thinks that the Bible has nothing to say about the stock market.


But the Bible is pretty explicit when it comes to things we should and shouldn't do wouldn't you say? And if there's no mention about investments wouldn't it be safe to assume that it's ok as long as you're taking care of your other responsibilities?



The Bible constantly contradicts itself. And as mentioned in the previous quote in this thread, one thing the Bible is pretty explicit about is how it feels about money-grubbing.
#63 May 10 2011 at 3:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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olo,

First of all Jesus didn't write that. I know you're trying to use christianity, something you obviously know very little about, to prove a point but you're failing miserably.

We reap what we sow. That's all you need to know.



Jesus didn't write anything in Leviticus either, but you certainly drag that out in every *** marriage thread.
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#64varusword75, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lolgax,
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You're reaping in sin. Happy harvest. Smiley: grin
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Jesus also said "LOL BRB", but we don't apply that to our everyday lives, do we?
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#71varusword75, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Guenny,
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Varus,

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#73varusword75, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Guenny,
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Yes, as Christians, we do.
You read the Bible like one of R.L. Stein's Pick Your Nightmare books.
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#75 May 10 2011 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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Varus,

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Sounds like someones not getting any.


I think that's Almalique you hear wiping his tears with sticky tissues.
#76varusword75, Posted: May 10 2011 at 3:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lolgax,
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I know. You might give it a try sometime.
What's the matter? Hellfire making it difficult to retort?
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#78 May 10 2011 at 4:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Jesus also said (paraphrasing) don't throw out the old testament.


So you never eat shellfish or wear cotton polyester blend clothing? Because both of those things are banned in Leviticus too...

Leviticus 19:19 NIV wrote:


“‘Keep my decrees.

“‘Do not mate different kinds of animals.

“‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.

“‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.


Leviticus 9-12 wrote:
“‘Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams you may eat any that have fins and scales. But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to regard as unclean. And since you are to regard them as unclean, you must not eat their meat; you must regard their carcasses as unclean. Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you.


Also could I have the verse where Jesus says not to throw out the old testament, please?

I think he says just the opposite:

Hebrews 8:7 and Hebrews 8:18 wrote:
For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
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#79 May 10 2011 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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#80varusword75, Posted: May 11 2011 at 7:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Olo,
#81 May 11 2011 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just like it's words against homosexuality the old testament is a guide to clean living.
Funny part about Sodom and Gomorrah was that one of their sins was that they'd engraved their names in gold ingots and gave them to beggers, and when those beggers tried to use the gold to buy food they'd refuse to sell.

Edit: It should also be pointed out that I've been talking about gambling, not investing, but I'm more entertained by the Religious Pick-Your-Sin Adventure Book we're witnessing.

Edited, May 11th 2011 10:16am by lolgaxe
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#82 May 11 2011 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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I don't really eat shell fish.
Does this fall under your "I don't really have *** with other men" line of thinking, Man-Seeking-Man?
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Guenny wrote:
I am just the kind of old schooler who thinks that the Bible has nothing to say about the stock market.current society and the world as a whole.


Just sayin'.
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and no I don't really eat shell fish. Just like it's words against homosexuality the old testament is a guide to clean living. Perhaps you should actually try and find the meaning of verses rather than spouting off the typical liberal ones that are most commonly misunderstood.


I've always found it sad that people will live their lives by a book that was written by some old guys, hundreds, even thousands of years ago. By all means, tell me what's dirty about shellfish, from what I've read, it seems that shellfish are quite good for you if you're not allergic.

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Boy you liberals really don't like it when a conservative makes a profit do you? I mean lolgx, olo, guenny, and company are actually convinced it's unchristian to invest. Of course you're all used to that sort of behaviour, which is why you're so keen on taxing the h*ll out of those who actually pay federal income taxes. I can tell all you dead beats that it's a buyers market and now is a great time to buy a house but even with that knowledge you won't act on it. Just like you didn't when I said what I said about gold over 5yrs ago.


I don't even care whether or not it's Christian to invest. If you make a profit, good for you. If not, oh well, better luck next time. I just believe in tax rates that are different for people who make a lot than those who make next to nothing. If you're making a really good profit in the stock market, then you should be taxed more than the guy who works at a store for 8 bucks an hour to try and feed his family.

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Liberals really are petty small minded people.


I think all people who adhere to a party line, instead of making their own decisions about the issues, are petty, small-minded people.

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#86 May 11 2011 at 3:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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and no I don't really eat shell fish.


Sorry, you don't "really" eat shellfish? What does that mean? Have you ever eaten shellfish? Do you continue to eat them?

Also, you never answered my question about your clothes. Do you own any clothes that are made of more than one fabric? Say like cotton lycra blend socks? Or cotton polyester blend shirts? Those are against the rules too.

No where in the Old Testament does it say "these rules are negotiable, those ones aren't."

Just like Jesus doesn't anywhere make exceptions when he expresses his opinions about people who seek riches in this world instead of riches in heaven.

I have no problem with spiritual christians who treat the bible as a living text rather than as a literal one and try to live by the uplifting and positive spiritual messages within it.

But people like you, who use it literally, but only when it suits you - only as a reason to hate and discriminate against people - only as a tool to justify your bigotry - I have no respect for.



Edited, May 11th 2011 10:42pm by Olorinus
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#87 May 12 2011 at 12:01 AM Rating: Good
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[b]For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5:17-20&version=NIV


Unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

It was the Pharisees who turned Jesus over to the Romans, or do you not remember?

And the teachers of what law? The law of hatred? The law of strong vs weak? Don't tell me that you can honestly look the teachings of Jesus in the eye and see in him an exhortation to seek monetary profit. Don't tell me that Jesus hated the poor because it was only the poor who were willing to see and truly believe in Jesus. He rode in to Jerusalem on a donkey, not because donkeys were the cool ride back then, but because that is the best those who believed could provide. That and palm leaves.

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At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were ahungered, and began to pluck the ears of corn to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was ahungered, and they that were with him;
how he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless ?
But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
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Mark 12:28-31 (New International Version wrote:

The Greatest Commandment
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”


Edited, May 11th 2011 11:15pm by Olorinus
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So according to Jesus, wouldn't you agree- it is more important to love your *** neighbour or the guy at work that eats shellfish and wears cotton polyester shirts than to worry about some silly outdated law in Leviticus?

Isn't that what Jesus means when he talks about having righteousness greater than the Pharasees, who persecuted the disciples when they picked food because they were hungry on the sabbath?
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Also regarding the law.

Mark:38-40 wrote:
Warning Against the Teachers of the Law
As he taught, Jesus said, “Watch out for the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and be greeted with respect in the marketplaces, and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. These men will be punished most severely.”
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What do you mean loan it to them? Greedy *******, demanding it back so you can maintain your wealth.
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Fortunately we have salvation through Christ.
Its okay to sin as long as you believe.
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You're operating under the false assumption that I hate *** people. In fact like all sinners I pray for their salvation.


Yeah, it's incredibly difficult to believe you don't hate *** people, liberals, or women, considering the way you talk about each on this forum.
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Fortunately we have salvation through Christ.
Its okay to sin as long as you believe.
Which means its ok to be a **** so long as you keep believing.
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So according to Jesus, wouldn't you agree- it is more important to love your *** neighbour or the guy at work that eats shellfish and wears cotton polyester shirts than to worry about some silly outdated law in Leviticus?


You're operating under the false assumption that I hate *** people. In fact like all sinners I pray for their salvation.


Matthew 7:3-5 New International Version wrote:

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.


Mark 7:6-8 New International Version wrote:


He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’

You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”



Edited, May 12th 2011 8:24am by Olorinus
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Because I believe the bible when it tells me homosexuality is a sin?
But not the parts about premarital ***, being judgmental, or gambling.
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Because I believe the bible when it tells me homosexuality is a sin?
But not the parts about premarital ***, being judgmental, or gambling.
Or publicly stoning children to death.

No, that's not just children of liberal families, Varus. That's any child.
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Yeah, it's incredibly difficult to believe you don't hate *** people, liberals, or women, considering the way you talk about each on this forum.


Why is that? Because I believe the bible when it tells me homosexuality is a sin?

I do despise liberalism and hold nothing but contempt for those who follow it's doctrine.


Wait, so you don't hate gays, but you do hate liberals? The point was that you hate in the first place, was it not?

I dunno Varus, it's looking like you're gonna be barbeque fodder for the debil.
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