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#1 Apr 26 2011 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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I happened across an article talking about how the U.S. Department of State is looking to make the acquisition of a Passport much more difficult. They want to introduce a new application form with questions that are going to be pretty difficult to give complete answers to....

Heres the proposed questionaire [pdf]

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The U.S. Department of State is proposing a new Biographical Questionnaire for some passport applicants: The proposed new Form DS-5513 asks for all addresses since birth; lifetime employment history including employers’ and supervisors names, addresses, and telephone numbers; personal details of all siblings; mother’s address one year prior to your birth; any “religious ceremony” around the time of birth; and a variety of other information. According to the proposed form, “failure to provide the information requested may result in … the denial of your U.S. passport application.”


Full article here.

Dont know about you, but theres some stuff being asked there that I would absolutely be unable to answer.
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#2 Apr 26 2011 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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Seems excessive.

Surely to grant a passport, all they need to know is if you're a legal citizen. Why all the crap about where your mother lived before you were born?
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#3 Apr 26 2011 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds like a great way to keep Americans from traveling abroad.
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#4 Apr 26 2011 at 3:13 PM Rating: Good
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Sounds like a great way to keep Americans from traveling abroad.



Joining the military will soon be the only option if you want to see the world as an American?
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#5 Apr 26 2011 at 3:13 PM Rating: Default
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I started reading your thread then I got lost in your avatar.

But yeah,Some of the questions there seem a little ridiculous :|
Good thing I am not applying for one any time soon
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You mean no more people waddling around Trafalgar square and pronouncing stuff wrongly...and loudly? Sounds good to me.
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Nilatai wrote:
You mean no more people waddling around Trafalgar square and pronouncing stuff wrongly...and loudly? Sounds good to me.


lol...now just got to get rid of other tourist somehow.
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lolgaxe wrote:
Sounds like a great way to keep Americans from traveling abroad.
No like. Want US money in my bank accounts
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#9 Apr 26 2011 at 3:18 PM Rating: Default
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At first, I was wondering what the big deal was, then I realized the concern. It's no big deal for me because it's the same questions that you have to answer in order to get a security clearance. This time, I kept my file. Copy and paste...

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Read above, if you have a position requiring a clearance, you can't avoid them.
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It's no big deal for me because it's the same questions that you have to answer in order to get a security clearance.
Then you didn't look at the mock up questionnaire.
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The every address you've ever lived at seems a little daunting, the mother information might be a bit difficult to come by, but what really astounded me is that they want a reference to a live witness to your birth, including phone number. Are they really gonna call someone and say, "So, 25 years and 35 days ago, were you at such-and-such hospital attending to [insert mother's name here].

What about people who were adopted? I'm not sure what kind of information they're usually privy too, but often it's not much. Apparently, though, if you don't know your mother's house address where she was living 1 year after your birth, you just don't deserve to go abroad.

My passport still has 3 years left on it, and when I was 18 I don't recall having to do much more than get a certified copy of my birth certificate from the state registry office. Meh.
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Nilatai wrote:
Why all the crap about where your mother lived before you were born?


So they can prove that presidential candidates were born in the US.

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Nilatai wrote:
Why all the crap about where your mother lived before you were born?


So they can prove that presidential candidates were born in the US.

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I came here to say this.

I have a hard enough time getting my addresses and previous employments for apartment renter forms and job apps, though I usually try to save any lists I make for future reference.
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Honestly, the whole thing sounds like a hoax to me. While I'm sure the DoS may indeed be proposing a new application form, the only source for the new form itself comes from a third party and not the government. If that form is true, it seems... excessive.


Perhaps it's only intended for people already identified as at risk or something? Or naturalized citizens from certain countries for which birth certificates aren't available? Dunno. I just find it hard to believe that this would be a standard form required for getting a passport.
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Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Why all the crap about where your mother lived before you were born?


So they can prove that presidential candidates were born in the US.

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Hah. I wasn't going to say it, but apparently the President would be unable to obtain a US passport under those restrictions.
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It does say that the form is not for all applicants, my guess is that it only applies to current presidents.
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Nilatai wrote:
You mean no more people waddling around Trafalgar square and pronouncing stuff wrongly...and loudly? Sounds good to me.


Yes, because all the Brits I've met here have been the absolute epitome of decorum.

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Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
It does say that the form is not for all applicants, my guess is that it only applies to current presidents.


And people with beards. Or turbans. Or if they are called something that sounds a bit foreign, I expect.
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Nilatai wrote:
You mean no more people waddling around Trafalgar square and pronouncing stuff wrongly...and loudly? Sounds good to me.


Yes, because all the Brits I've met here have been the absolute epitome of decorum.

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It's no big deal for me because it's the same questions that you have to answer in order to get a security clearance.
Then you didn't look at the mock up questionnaire.


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#21 Apr 26 2011 at 7:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I honestly have trouble remembering my last address. There is no way in hell I could list every place I've ever lived. And phone numbers?? Ha!
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#23 Apr 27 2011 at 1:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think I lost count of addresses after #12 or so. And I cant even remember my last phone number. Hell, with speed dial these days I dont even know half of my friends phone numbers.


Guess I'll stop socking away for that European trip Ive been planning for.
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There is also not enough spaces for all the schools I attended. I couldn't even fit my Elementary Schools in the fields provided.
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Guenny wrote:
they want a reference to a live witness to your birth, including phone number.


=/ the guy that delivered me, delivered my mom so I'm pretty sure he's dead by now...
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Samira wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
You mean no more people waddling around Trafalgar square and pronouncing stuff wrongly...and loudly? Sounds good to me.


Yes, because all the Brits I've met here have been the absolute epitome of decorum.

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