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#77 Apr 28 2011 at 9:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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But we are to follow his teachings and teach them to others. Part of that includes telling people what the bible says about practices like homosexuality. Wouldn't I be a bad christian if I didn't tell people about the 10 commandments or the resurrection? There's no difference in regard to homosexuality
Telling others and forcing your will upon them are two different things. Its your job as a Christian to spread the word. It is not your job to judge or force them to act a certain way.
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#78 Apr 28 2011 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, now we are taking it literally again?

Leviticus also forbids men to shave their beards and heads. The bible also commands us to stone disobedient children and forces women to marry their rapists.

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#81 Apr 28 2011 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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Ugly,

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Telling others and forcing your will upon them are two different things.


Homosexuals are the ones forcing their willies on the rest of society.

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#82 Apr 28 2011 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Telling others and forcing your will upon them are two different things.


Homosexuals are the ones forcing their will on the rest of society.

I figured you'd respond with that. There's really no point in continuing this discussion. You'll do what you want, claiming God's on your side, despite his clear declarations that you're not to do as you're doing. Nothing I'm going to say will ever deter you from that path, so have at it and deal with your maker when the time comes.
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#83 Apr 28 2011 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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wow! Look at all the Christian bashing. I knew you people were atheist as*holes but I had no idea to what degree.



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I always interpreted that line as you know, Don't go judging others cause thats Gods, job, not yours

So we are going to be judged then are we not? And if that's so shouldn't, as caring and compassionate Christians, we do everything we can to help our neighbors know the difference between right and wrong so that when they are judged they at least had the oppurtunity to make the right choices?

We are all judged. That's why no true Christian can accept homosexuality as a 'normal' or even acceptable practice.

Like it or not the Bibles pretty clear on homosexuality.



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So we are going to be judged then are we not?

This is entirely dependant upon your belief system. But if you believe that God will judge us all at the end, why do some christians feel that they have the authority to act as God in the here and now? And not only to judge but to afford condemnation in Gods name. last time I checked I havent met anyone with a direct line to God to get his final judgement on the matter.

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And if that's so shouldn't, as caring and compassionate Christians, we do everything we can to help our neighbors know the difference between right and wrong so that when they are judged they at least had the oppurtunity to make the right choices?


No. You were told to preach about christ and the path to God. You can teach people, but you are not supposed to force them. And there is NOTHING caring and compassionate about hurting other folks in Gods name. NOTHING. I cant stress that enough. Those types of Christians do so much more damage to their cause than if they listened to what God said and let him be the judge.

Even in your own religion it is not your place to judge other peoples choices. Thats Gods place only.

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We are all judged. That's why no true Christian would have the hubris to think they knew Gods mind and would speak on Gods behalf.



FTFY



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#84 Apr 28 2011 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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You'll do what you want, claiming God's on your side, despite his clear declarations that you're not to do as you're doing.
Its the Christian thing to do.
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#85 Apr 28 2011 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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You'll do what you want, claiming God's on your side, despite his clear declarations that you're not to do as you're doing.
Its the Christian thing to do.
Just the true Christian thing to do.
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#86 Apr 28 2011 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Like it or not the Bibles pretty clear on homosexuality.



Edited, Apr 28th 2011 10:49am by varusword75
It's pretty clear on people who work on Sundays and children who talk back to their parents. I don't see you rushing to make those things illegal punishable by death, which is what your bible demands.
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#87 Apr 28 2011 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Homosexuals are the ones forcing their will on the rest of society.
You're forcing your will on homosexuals.
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#88 Apr 28 2011 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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Atard,

Actually we were talking about context. Not that I expect someone with your limited intelligence to understand the difference.


Nice burn.

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I have a serious question. Varus, what days do you work? Monday to Friday?
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I'm suprised no one has brought one of Varus's hypocritical moments. (I know, that's like complaining about not cleaning up one pile of crap in a yard full of it)

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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."


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...the sexually immoral...the greedy...slanderers...


Those three right there fit Varus's behavior. He brags about picking up random women and having his way with them. He has a fit whenever his taxes are given to those that can barely make ends meet. Let's not even get into the slanders he constantly throws out.

Here's a tip Varus, if you are going to choose passages from the Bible to quote aim for some that doesn't make you look worse than the group you are against.
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#91 Apr 28 2011 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Ah, and the ordinance it seeks to nullify is ORDINANCE NO. BL2011-838:
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The Council of the Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County enacted Ordinance No. BL2009-502 to make it unlawful for the Metropolitan Government to fail or refuse to hire or promote, or to discharge any individual, because of such individual’s race, religion, creed, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, national origin, color, age, and/or disability

http://www.nashville.gov/mc/ordinances/term_2007_2011/bl2011_838.htm

The new bill seeks to overturn the addition of "gender identity" and "sexual orientation" within Metro Nashville and throughout the state.


Looks like they added "disability" as well. So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
There are already federal laws preventing discrimination against the disabled. Duh.

The law-makers who 'banned' Nashville's law were clear about their intent.

Way to throw out meaningless crap...like usual.

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In my experience,
You have experience with this?
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#93 Apr 28 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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In my experience,
You have experience with this?

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#94 Apr 28 2011 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Living a moral life and not exposing children to deviant lifestyle choices seems pretty important to actual Christians. I can understand how someone like you might not get this.


Didn't the founding fathers you tout so much want there to be a separation between church and state(and many of them detested the idea of a multi-party political system, but that's an argument for a different day)? Religion has no place in politics and should not be and cannot be a valid reason for a change in any policy of any kind.


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I hate to upset you, well that's not exactly true, but most americans are christians.


You're correct. Most Americans are indeed Christians, but, being a Christian doesn't necessarily mean that you agree with all of the ideas put forward by the sect of Christianity that you belong to.

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No I'm saying you're taking it out of context. The 'judge not lest ye be judged' bit is as much a warning to the people being judged as to those doing the judging. When we die we'll all stand before God and be judged. When we see someone doing something harmful, be it to themselves or others, we're compelled to help them find the truth path to Christ. What we're not commanded to do is turn our heads and pretend what the sinner is doing is ok.


Having never met God personally, how can you be sure that the men who wrote the book, supposedly in his name, were correctly interpreting his will?
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Like it or not the Bibles pretty clear on homosexuality.


The bible is pretty clear on the place of women in society too, are you saying that women aren't equal too?


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I'm suprised no one has brought one of Varus's hypocritical moments.
We all know they're there, it's really not worth the effort IMO.
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#97 Apr 28 2011 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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Like it or not the Bibles pretty clear on homosexuality.


The bible is pretty clear on the place of women in society too, are you saying that women aren't equal too?


Of course he is.
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Living a moral life and not exposing children to deviant lifestyle choices seems pretty important to actual Christians. I can understand how someone like you might not get this.


Didn't the founding fathers you tout so much want there to be a separation between church and state(and many of them detested the idea of a multi-party political system, but that's an argument for a different day)?

Just to be accurate, the meaning of the Constitution has been interpreted to be a separation of church and state. That exact wording does not appear in the document - the SCotUS has interpreted it to mean as such, however. You could argue the Founding Fathers did not believe in that concept but rather just that no official religion should be sponsored by the state. I doubt many of them would have minded teachers leading prayers and whatnot.

Of course, what the Founding Fathers wanted doesn't much matter. What does matter is that the legal interpretation means there's a separation of church and state. If one doesn't believe it, one doesn't believe in the Constitution or the legal system of our country.

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Just to be accurate, the meaning of the Constitution has been interpreted to be a separation of church and state. That exact wording does not appear in the document - the SCotUS has interpreted it to mean as such, however. You could argue the Founding Fathers did not believe in that concept but rather just that no official religion should be sponsored by the state. I doubt many of them would have minded teachers leading prayers and whatnot.

Of course, what the Founding Fathers wanted doesn't much matter. What does matter is that the legal interpretation means there's a separation of church and state. If one doesn't believe it, one doesn't believe in the Constitution or the legal system of our country.

The more you know!


I wasn't aware of that. I'm not very well read on the US Constitution, and I was making an assumption based on what i have read and heard. Good to know that so that I can be more accurate in the future.
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