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#1 Apr 26 2011 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Along with the "don't say gay" bill, TN is voting to overturn anti-discrimination policies keeping government contractors from discriminating against people for sexual orientation. In addition, they've stuck in there that no other local government can make an anti-discrimination policy that's stronger than Metro's!

Yes, Tennessee is going to hell in a hand basket. I have no idea where all these people think it's ok to hate so freely. It scares me,t his is so fucked up.

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A House subcommittee approved legislation Wednesday that would nullify a new Metro law banning discrimination by city contractors against gays, lesbians and transgendered people.

The bill would make it illegal for local governments to prohibit discrimination by businesses based on sexual orientation or gender identity, which are not protected classes under state law.

The Metro Council enacted such a ban Tuesday for companies that do business with the city of Nashville.

State Rep. Glen Casada is sponsoring the House bill, which next goes to the full Commerce Committee.

Chris Sanders of the Tennessee Equality Project, which fought for passage of the Metro law, said his group hopes to convince lawmakers to reject the state legislation's "intrusion into local authority."


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#2 Apr 26 2011 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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In addition, they've stuck in there that no other local government can make an anti-discrimination policy that's stronger than Metro's!
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#3 Apr 26 2011 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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#4 Apr 26 2011 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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I do feel bad for the quiet majority of Tennessee.
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Oh Tennessee, you crazy. Seriously, these people have been voted into office and the most pressing issue they can come up with is throwing homosexual/tans-gendered rights back 10 years?
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#6 Apr 26 2011 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Gays are really scary guys! And evil too! Smiley: oyvey
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#7 Apr 26 2011 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is only because some jerk liberals had the gall to say you shouldn't discriminate against homosexuals on the basis of their sexuality. They went TOO FAR AND TENNESSEE HAD NO CHOICE!!!
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When did the writers from the Onion get elected in TN?
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Despite my personal experience, intuition, and common sense, there's still a part of me that doesn't want to think that there are so many in TN willing to let this pass by while either cheering it or saying nothing if they don't support it.
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I'd have to look at the TN law that's being overturned. In my experience, laws which are often labeled as "preventing X from discriminating against Y" really mean "X is required to hire Y" (ie: hiring quotas or other affirmative action type programs). The sensible middle ground position in opposition to discrimination *and* against hiring quotas often gets lost in the rhetoric surrounding these sorts of issues. If the way the government fights discrimination is by making businesses prove they're not discriminating by hiring a certain number of token members of a protected group, I'm pretty strongly opposed to it as well. Sadly, that's often the most common form of anti-discrimination law, and even more sadly is that they're labeled as "anti-discrimination".
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gbaji wrote:
I'd have to look at the TN law that's being overturned. In my experience, laws which are often labeled as "preventing X from discriminating against Y" really mean "X is required to hire Y" (ie: hiring quotas or other affirmative action type programs). The sensible middle ground position in opposition to discrimination *and* against hiring quotas often gets lost in the rhetoric surrounding these sorts of issues. If the way the government fights discrimination is by making businesses prove they're not discriminating by hiring a certain number of token members of a protected group, I'm pretty strongly opposed to it as well. Sadly, that's often the most common form of anti-discrimination law, and even more sadly is that they're labeled as "anti-discrimination".


Here you go:
http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=HB0600&GA=107

Here's the summary:
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This bill prohibits any local government from imposing on any person an anti-discrimination practice, standard, definition or provision that varies in any manner from the definition of "discriminatory practices" under present law or other types of discrimination recognized by state law but only to the extent recognized by the state. Under present law, "discriminatory practices" means any direct or indirect act or practice of exclusion, distinction, restriction, segregation, limitation, refusal, denial, or any other act or practice of differentiation or preference in the treatment of a person or persons because of race, creed, color, religion, sex, age or national origin.

Under this bill, any such anti-discrimination practice, standard, definition, or provision imposed on any such person by a local government prior to the effective date of this bill would be null and void. The above requirements would not apply with respect to employees of a local government.

Additionally, this bill clarifies that with regards to discriminatory practices and human rights, "sex" means the designation of the person as male or female as indicated on the person's birth certificate.


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Ah, and the ordinance it seeks to nullify is ORDINANCE NO. BL2011-838:
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The Council of the Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County enacted Ordinance No. BL2009-502 to make it unlawful for the Metropolitan Government to fail or refuse to hire or promote, or to discharge any individual, because of such individual’s race, religion, creed, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, national origin, color, age, and/or disability

http://www.nashville.gov/mc/ordinances/term_2007_2011/bl2011_838.htm

The new bill seeks to overturn the addition of "gender identity" and "sexual orientation" within Metro Nashville and throughout the state.

Edit: Here's the link to the bill itself. It makes certain that sex only pertains to the sex on the birth certificate, and says that local ordinances cannot add new categories to anti-discrimination laws.
http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/107/Bill/HB0600.pdf

Edited, Apr 26th 2011 3:19pm by LockeColeMA
Edit2: For what it's worth, the ordinance only applies to companies doing business with the government. Private companies that do not interact with the Metro government only need to follow the state law.


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Ah, and the ordinance it seeks to nullify is ORDINANCE NO. BL2011-838:
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The Council of the Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County enacted Ordinance No. BL2009-502 to make it unlawful for the Metropolitan Government to fail or refuse to hire or promote, or to discharge any individual, because of such individual’s race, religion, creed, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, national origin, color, age, and/or disability

http://www.nashville.gov/mc/ordinances/term_2007_2011/bl2011_838.htm

The new bill seeks to overturn the addition of "gender identity" and "sexual orientation" within Metro Nashville and throughout the state.


Looks like they added "disability" as well. So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
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Looks like they added "disability" as well. So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
Great, now no one from Tennessee can do any city work for Nashville.
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gbaji wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Ah, and the ordinance it seeks to nullify is ORDINANCE NO. BL2011-838:
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The Council of the Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County enacted Ordinance No. BL2009-502 to make it unlawful for the Metropolitan Government to fail or refuse to hire or promote, or to discharge any individual, because of such individual’s race, religion, creed, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, national origin, color, age, and/or disability

http://www.nashville.gov/mc/ordinances/term_2007_2011/bl2011_838.htm

The new bill seeks to overturn the addition of "gender identity" and "sexual orientation" within Metro Nashville and throughout the state.


Looks like they added "disability" as well. So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
Apparently!
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Looks like they added "disability" as well. So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!

This would surprise anyone?
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So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
You're not born crippled, you choose to be crippled, and they're not going to teach their kids its okay to lead a disabled lifestyle.
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gbaji wrote:
So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
You're not born crippled, you choose to be crippled, and they're not going to teach their kids its okay to lead a disabled lifestyle.
That's what happened to me. My mother told me all about her disability, and I went 'head and chose it for myself, too! She didn't tell my brother about it though, so he didn't decide to be disabled. I'm gonna teach it to some of my kids, maybe!
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lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
You're not born crippled, you choose to be crippled, and they're not going to teach their kids its okay to lead a disabled lifestyle.


Well apparently Jesus preached against the handicap, that's obviously the only possible argument against the handicap. Those darn Christians using religion on EVERYTHING!
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Almalieque wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
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So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
You're not born crippled, you choose to be crippled, and they're not going to teach their kids its okay to lead a disabled lifestyle.


Well apparently Jesus preached against the handicap, that's obviously the only possible argument against the handicap. Those darn Christians using religion on EVERYTHING!
Exactly! Now yer gettin' it.
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#22Almalieque, Posted: Apr 26 2011 at 3:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yea, just had to dumb myself down.. but I'm getting there..
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Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
You're not born crippled, you choose to be crippled, and they're not going to teach their kids its okay to lead a disabled lifestyle.


Well apparently Jesus preached against the handicap, that's obviously the only possible argument against the handicap. Those darn Christians using religion on EVERYTHING!
Exactly! Now yer gettin' it.


Yea, just had to dumb myself down.. but I'm getting there..
That's a lie, if you dumbed yourself down any more you'd forget how to breathe.
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Nilatai wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
You're not born crippled, you choose to be crippled, and they're not going to teach their kids its okay to lead a disabled lifestyle.
That's what happened to me. My mother told me all about her disability, and I went 'head and chose it for myself, too! She didn't tell my brother about it though, so he didn't decide to be disabled. I'm gonna teach it to some of my kids, maybe!


Don't be silly. Cripples can't have kids of their own! That's why they have to recruit new members.

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Samira wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
So I guess TN is anti-disabled as well!
You're not born crippled, you choose to be crippled, and they're not going to teach their kids its okay to lead a disabled lifestyle.
That's what happened to me. My mother told me all about her disability, and I went 'head and chose it for myself, too! She didn't tell my brother about it though, so he didn't decide to be disabled. I'm gonna teach it to some of my kids, maybe!


Don't be silly. Cripples can't have kids of their own! That's why they have to recruit new members.


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gbaji wrote:
I'd have to look at the TN law that's being overturned. In my experience,

Which is...several years on the bench?
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