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#352 Apr 27 2011 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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Now, Alma, I'm not sure exactly what you think your question implies. If I follow your logical pathway, you're saying that just because other species, including our closest cousins, exhibit homosexual behaviour this does not mean it is natural in humans. Is that what you're saying?


That wasn't the point of my blindness question, but that was CLOSE to the point I was making. My point in your statement was in reference to ANY natural trait. A human natural trait is defined by humans and humans only. It doesn't matter if that same trait is or isn't natural in animals.

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No, it doesn't. You're right, animals can be blind as well as humans can. This...proves that...there's a natural explanation for blindness?

Nah you've completely lost me, sorry.


If your opinion of blindness didn't change after you realized (at one point of time) that it happened in animals and is completely natural, then why does it even matter if it's natural or not? You provided the fact of homosexuality occurring in nature as if it makes a difference. Rape occurs in nature too, does that change your opinion of rape?

The point I was trying to make to you that was that whether something naturally happens does not and/or should not change your opinion on anything. I'm sure MOST things(to include diseases, handicaps, etc.) happen naturally. The fact that homosexuality may occur naturally should not have any effect on your opinion on homosexuality just like it shouldn't with blindness, rape, incest,etc. AND NO, I'M NOT COMPARING THEM TO HOMOSEXUALITY AS BEING THE SAME THING.

I'm sorry you're really not making sense. My opinion on homosexuality is that it's a perfectly natural occurrence. How does any of what you're babbling about invalidate that?
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#353 Apr 27 2011 at 8:10 PM Rating: Good
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#354 Apr 27 2011 at 8:12 PM Rating: Default
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*Looks at the Religious-Biological posts*
TL;DR.

Just posting to point out somethings:
There are very a lot of ways to justify homosexuality in one or more persons.
First of all, no one is full absent from **** istints and hormons.
Just soppress them or replace the sex impulses in others form.
One kind of homosexuality can derive from genetic tendencies that affect the hormons and mental likes.
Another one can derive from one or more traumas in infant/teens age.
Another one can derive from who-knows-where.

However the Homosexuality started to be fighted somewhen near the Middle-Age.
In Ancient Rome and others ancient cultures, and native cultures nowdays existing, homosexuality was nothing wrong and so usual to ppl.
Christians just take it to the wrong side 'cause it was associated with pagan cults and pagan gods.
Actually high christians clerics used to kiss themselves lips-to-lips 'till 50-80y ago.
And in those days we all know little priests dirty secrets a lot.
Another use of the Homosexuality-hate was for social business, that's the primary sake of something like all the religious traditions and way to think.
Homosexuality was so common to give a very bad feedback at births in a time when a nation/kingdom population was the first prosperity standar.
It was easier for states to generate hate in Homosexuality and use Christian religion for it.

And so began the "Omg you are gay you are sick" era.
Anyway, I can't believe ppl uses they hands as partners to have a little sex moment and pretend not to be a few homosexual..

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#355 Apr 27 2011 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks Alma. That entire response to me was an excellent example of how you're an idiot.


So did you find out what continent Central America is part of yet?

And you call me the idiot.... lol
I don't really get why you're asking this. It's part of North America, but it's also a subcontinent like India.
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#356 Apr 27 2011 at 8:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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NovembrineWaltz wrote:
*Looks at the Religious-Biological posts*
TL;DR.

Just posting to point out somethings:
There are very a lot of ways to justify homosexuality in one or more persons.
First of all, no one is full absent from **** istints and hormons.
Just soppress them or replace the sex impulses in others form.
One kind of homosexuality can derive from genetic tendencies that affect the hormons and mental likes.
Another one can derive from one or more traumas in infant/teens age.
Another one can derive from who-knows-where.

However the Homosexuality started to be fighted somewhen near the Middle-Age.
In Ancient Rome and others ancient cultures, and native cultures nowdays existing, homosexuality was nothing wrong and so usual to ppl.
Christians just take it to the wrong side 'cause it was associated with pagan cults and pagan gods.
Actually high christians clerics used to kiss themselves lips-to-lips 'till 50-80y ago.
And in those days we all know little priests dirty secrets a lot.
Another use of the Homosexuality-hate was for social business, that's the primary sake of something like all the religious traditions and way to think.
Homosexuality was so common to give a very bad feedback at births in a time when a nation/kingdom population was the first prosperity standar.
It was easier for states to generate hate in Homosexuality and use Christian religion for it.

And so began the "Omg you are gay you are sick" era.
how babby is not formed?
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#357 Apr 27 2011 at 8:21 PM Rating: Default
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If I had interpetated it right, you are saying "For natural selection, sex is to be used only for reproduction of the race".
This theory is something like old-dated, for the simple answer that: If it was so, we would have not match so much homosexual activities in animals, wich first scope remains to prosper themselves.

If this question was 4thelulz, the answer iz:
Becoming a priest.
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#358 Apr 27 2011 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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NovembrineWaltz wrote:
If I had interpetated it right, you are saying "For natural selection, sex is to be used only for reproduction of the race".
This theory is something like old-dated, for the simple answer that: If it was so, we would have not match so much homosexual activities in animals, wich first scope remains to prosper themselves.

If this question was 4thelulz, the answer iz:
Becoming a priest.
10/10 would read again.
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#359 Apr 27 2011 at 9:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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NovembrineWaltz wrote:
First of all, no one is full absent from **** istints and hormons.

I heard that Romney won't be elected because he's a hormon.
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#360 Apr 27 2011 at 9:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
Then why bother posting? You know I'm going to respond. Unless you can show me how two animals are the exact same thing, you can't pick and choose which traits are natural for humans and which ones aren't based solely off the animal and not the human. It simply doesn't work that way and if you can't grasp that concept, then you my friend are the oblivious idiot, not I.
If only there was some sort of "code" within the cells of all living beings that could distinguish this for us.
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#361 Apr 27 2011 at 11:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'm sorry you're really not making sense. My opinion on homosexuality is that it's a perfectly natural occurrence. How does any of what you're babbling about invalidate that?


His point is that it's possible to be natural and bad or synthetic and good.
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#362 Apr 28 2011 at 4:21 AM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
So did you find out what continent Central America is part of yet?

I've always known where it belongs, its you who hasn't.

Edited, Apr 28th 2011 8:03am by Uglysasquatch
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#363Almalieque, Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 5:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thank you. Honest question, was it my wording, his understanding or a combination of the two? I really don't see how I could have simplified that anymore.
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#364 Apr 28 2011 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
I'm sorry you're really not making sense. My opinion on homosexuality is that it's a perfectly natural occurrence. How does any of what you're babbling about invalidate that?


His point is that it's possible to be natural and bad or synthetic and good.


Thank you. Honest question, was it my wording, his understanding or a combination of the two? I really don't see how I could have simplified that anymore.
So your point is that even though it is perfectly natural, it's still bad....because? Why?
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#365 Apr 28 2011 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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Hey Varus, can I continue to use deutschebag to confuse and infuriate people, or will you sue me for plagiarism?
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#366 Apr 28 2011 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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Hey Varus, can I continue to use deutschebag to confuse and infuriate people, or will you sue me for plagiarism?


Yeah, I thought it was obvious as well, but I guess some people don't get it.

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#367 Apr 28 2011 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
I'm sorry you're really not making sense. My opinion on homosexuality is that it's a perfectly natural occurrence. How does any of what you're babbling about invalidate that?


His point is that it's possible to be natural and bad or synthetic and good.


Thank you. Honest question, was it my wording, his understanding or a combination of the two? I really don't see how I could have simplified that anymore.
So your point is that even though it is perfectly natural, it's still bad....because? Why?


I don't think the animals have a bible...
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#368 Apr 28 2011 at 7:09 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks Alma. That entire response to me was an excellent example of how you're an idiot.


So did you find out what continent Central America is part of yet?

And you call me the idiot.... lol
I don't really get why you're asking this. It's part of North America, but it's also a subcontinent like India.
Because he's n idiot and doesn't understand anything, specifically on this topic, why I was ridiculing him over this discussion that he wants to keep bringing back up.
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#369 Apr 28 2011 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
I'm sorry you're really not making sense. My opinion on homosexuality is that it's a perfectly natural occurrence. How does any of what you're babbling about invalidate that?


His point is that it's possible to be natural and bad or synthetic and good.


Thank you. Honest question, was it my wording, his understanding or a combination of the two? I really don't see how I could have simplified that anymore.
So your point is that even though it is perfectly natural, it's still bad....because? Why?


I don't think the animals have a bible...
OH! Nah, can't be that. Alma said his position wasn't based on religion.
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#370 Apr 28 2011 at 7:35 AM Rating: Good
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Nilatai wrote:
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
I'm sorry you're really not making sense. My opinion on homosexuality is that it's a perfectly natural occurrence. How does any of what you're babbling about invalidate that?


His point is that it's possible to be natural and bad or synthetic and good.


Thank you. Honest question, was it my wording, his understanding or a combination of the two? I really don't see how I could have simplified that anymore.
So your point is that even though it is perfectly natural, it's still bad....because? Why?


I don't think the animals have a bible...
OH! Nah, can't be that. Alma said his position wasn't based on religion.


Oh yeah, I forgot about that...

I guess the animals don't have a word for icky?
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#371 Apr 28 2011 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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I guess not. Here sure schooled me.
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#372 Apr 28 2011 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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You people just can't stop, can you?

Shhh, the more they make him post the more I get to play with my arrows! don't take away my fun >:P
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#373 Apr 28 2011 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
I don't think the animals have a bible...
Cookie the Penguin is going to hell for not being Baptized and not living a pious Christian lifestyle.
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#374 Apr 28 2011 at 8:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
I don't think the animals have a bible...
Cookie the Penguin is going to hell for not being Baptized and not living a pious Christian lifestyle.


Not to mention that there are gay penguins. I protest at penguin funerals...

Thank God for dead penguins!
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#375Almalieque, Posted: Apr 28 2011 at 9:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I hope you're truly trolling... For Pete's sake, the point is, it doesn't matter if homosexual is natural or not. Your opinion should not change. Rape naturally occurs in nature, will you support rape just because animals do it?
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#376 Apr 28 2011 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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I hope you're truly trolling... For Pete's sake, the point is, it doesn't matter if homosexual is natural or not. Your opinion should not change. Rape naturally occurs in nature, will you support rape just because animals do it?

Doc: John, I hate to tell you, you have "x"-cancer..

John: <gasp>!!

Doc: Don't worry, it occurred naturally

John: Pheww.. I'm so relieved.

Why don't you just answer my question that you've been avoiding and state why you decided to mention that fact in the first place. How does that fit in this argument?
I thought I answered your question? That is, if you were talking about the whole blindness thing. Yes, being blind is bad. Assuming you're a creature that depends on sight. Plenty of blind animals don't, but that's neither here nor there.


By rape occurring in nature I hope you're talking about Mallards, which reproduce exclusively by gang rape. Essentially every other animal has some kind of mating ritual associated with it. I suppose the Mallard's gang rape is a mating ritual...

Also, that's not my main reason for not being against homosexuality. My main reason is it's nothing to do with me where someone wants to put their *****, or what they want in their ******. Hell, if they want a **** up the ***** more power to them I suppose.


Now that's out of the way, what exactly did you have against homosexuality?
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