Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Don't Say *** BillFollow

#252 Apr 26 2011 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
Edited by bsphil
******
21,739 posts
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
This isn't about evolution, but how do you explain water?

In every other substance known to man the solid is more dense than the liquid, but not with water. If this were true with water, then life would not exist. That just happened randomly?

I'm not trying to prove that God is real here, just curious as to what you all think about this.
Why assume that because something is useful it was designed to have use? That's akin to asking how we ended up here - we'd be asking the same question if we evolved on a planet on the other side of the universe. That's just the way things are.
____________________________
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
Take the hint guys, please take the hint.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
#253 Apr 26 2011 at 8:47 PM Rating: Excellent
****
4,158 posts
gbaji wrote:
I'm just remarking with some amusement how the only people I've met who insist on taking the bible literally are atheists.



Then you need to get out and meet more people.

Athiests (this one anyway) don't believe that the Bible is any more than a collection of stories, myths, legends whathaveyou. I have nothing against such a collection, I love a good read.

What we (I) object to is being told that it is any more important than any other book, and that without our acceptance of its contents as true!, that we are incapable of knowing right from wrong, good from evil, as though only they, with their 'insider knowledge' are capable of living good, happy, compassionate, fulfilling lives. They wont accept that there are multiple paths to the same destination. They are on the one and only right path. The rest of us are off to some place they call ****.

By all means, believers should be able to believe whatever they want, evidence or no, but for them to insist that there is a case for teaching their superstitions as though they have some sort of scientific merit is ridiculous.
____________________________
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.

#254 Apr 26 2011 at 8:58 PM Rating: Excellent
****
4,158 posts
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
This isn't about evolution, but how do you explain water?

In every other substance known to man the solid is more dense than the liquid, but not with water. If this were true with water, then life would not exist. That just happened randomly?

I'm not trying to prove that God is real here, just curious as to what you all think about this.




Water is ace. Especially when its salty and moving. And because water is one of the few things that moves pressure waves through itself at 'human' speeds it allows me to do stuff like this....

Screenshot


And I'm allowed to post that because its post #4k.

So GFY!

Edited, Apr 27th 2011 3:03am by paulsol
____________________________
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.

#255 Apr 26 2011 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
******
49,893 posts
Jophiel wrote:
Evolution has no "poor results".
Rednecks.
____________________________
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#256Almalieque, Posted: Apr 26 2011 at 9:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is quite amusing. You know something? You aren't as "smart" as you believe. I thought about explaining that sentence to you in that quote, but I told myself, no, let me see if you'll figure it out. As hypothesized, it flew over your head and instead of realizing your own inaccuracy, you once again, projected your own stupidity unto me.
#257 Apr 26 2011 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
****
4,158 posts
Quote:
I could have argued the Flying Spaghetti Monster and STILL have crushed your idiocy, lack of understanding and overall poor arguments.


I truly believe that the requirments for obtaining a US Passport are far too lenient. they need to be tightened exponentially. I also believe that the recent lowering of standards for entry into the US military was a huge mistake.

I feel that allowing Alma to be associated with an organisation whose purpose it is is to kill people, even if they are, usually, swarthy and often starving foreigners, is a direct and blatant insult to the people being killed.

They deserve better than to discover that the person behind the murder of themselves, and as often as not, the dismemberment and immolation of their children, is this painfully stupid windowlicker.

____________________________
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.

#258 Apr 26 2011 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
Supreme Lionator
*****
14,174 posts
Quote:
This isn't about evolution, but how do you explain water?

In every other substance known to man the solid is more dense than the liquid, but not with water. If this were true with water, then life would not exist. That just happened randomly?

I'm not trying to prove that God is real here, just curious as to what you all think about this.


No, that's not true. At least google something before you post it, come on. Your computer runs on a material more dense melted.

Jesus.
____________________________
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
#259 Apr 26 2011 at 10:33 PM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Kavekk wrote:
Your computer runs on a material more dense melted.

Electricity??
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#260 Apr 27 2011 at 2:16 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
39 posts
Did Basil get elected to office in this state? He was running in TN right?

Edited, Apr 27th 2011 4:17am by decayed
#261 Apr 27 2011 at 3:58 AM Rating: Decent
***
2,069 posts
Nilatai wrote:


Not randomly, it's just how water is. You make the assumption that life is the goal of the Universe.




If the universe can have goals, who's to say that the universe isn't some type of higher power. I'm of course not saying that water proves God's existence, but it certainly doesn't disprove it.

I do think that deep down, all religions are essentially the same, just different paths to the same destination.
____________________________
http://www.marriageissogay.com/

Song of the day:
May 26, 2011 -- Transplants
#262 Apr 27 2011 at 4:59 AM Rating: Good
Drunken English Bastard
*****
15,268 posts
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Nilatai wrote:


Not randomly, it's just how water is. You make the assumption that life is the goal of the Universe.




If the universe can have goals, who's to say that the universe isn't some type of higher power. I'm of course not saying that water proves God's existence, but it certainly doesn't disprove it.

I do think that deep down, all religions are essentially the same, just different paths to the same destination.
Oh, Pantheism. Okay. I'm not saying it can't, but you're saying that it can. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Again, the onus is on the one making the claim. Not on the one refuting it.


To claim the Universe has some kind of conciousness requires you to do some kind of research to find empirical evidence that this is the case. Kind of like every other claim that has ever been made by every other human in the history of the world.

edit: Also to quote Pierre-Simon Laplace when asked by Napoleon where god was in his model of the Universe: "I had no need of that hypothesis".

Edited, Apr 27th 2011 7:01am by Nilatai
____________________________
My Movember page
Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.

LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
#263 Apr 27 2011 at 5:30 AM Rating: Default
The All Knowing
Avatar
*****
10,152 posts
paulsol wrote:
Quote:
I could have argued the Flying Spaghetti Monster and STILL have crushed your idiocy, lack of understanding and overall poor arguments.


I truly believe that the requirments for obtaining a US Passport are far too lenient. they need to be tightened exponentially. I also believe that the recent lowering of standards for entry into the US military was a huge mistake.

I feel that allowing Alma to be associated with an organisation whose purpose it is is to kill people, even if they are, usually, swarthy and often starving foreigners, is a direct and blatant insult to the people being killed.

They deserve better than to discover that the person behind the murder of themselves, and as often as not, the dismemberment and immolation of their children, is this painfully stupid windowlicker.



No one has yet provided the connection between personal opinions/beliefs and the ability to do one's job. I find it ironic that you'll fight for homosexuals to be able to work in places, arguing that what they feel and believe has no effect on their capability to work, yet you'll turn around and claim that I'm somehow not fit to be in the military based on my feelings and opinions. The same contradiction that I busted Belkira on.

You guys never cease to amaze me....
#264 Apr 27 2011 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
Drunken English Bastard
*****
15,268 posts
He wasn't talking about your beliefs, he was talking about how you're not an intelligent person.
____________________________
My Movember page
Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.

LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
#265 Apr 27 2011 at 5:51 AM Rating: Default
The All Knowing
Avatar
*****
10,152 posts
Nilatai wrote:
He wasn't talking about your beliefs, he was talking about how you're not an intelligent person.


Are you a professional idiot? Yet again I was going to make the connection and I literally deleted the sentence, telling myself that it would just give me an additional post to explain it. You really aren't as smart as you think.

Simply stating that my belief is "stupid" doesn't make it stupid. I can say "It's stupid to be ***" does that make it true?

If you truly believe your statement, then explain how I'm "not an intelligent person" WITHOUT mentioning any of my opinions,beliefs or views on topics. Go

*You were unable to explain why I was a f**ktard about homosexuality when I didn't say anything negative about it. So, I'll like to see you explain this one. Then again, I'm sure you'll just ignore it just like you did everything else.
#266 Apr 27 2011 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
****
4,158 posts
What Nil said....
____________________________
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.

#267 Apr 27 2011 at 5:55 AM Rating: Good
Drunken English Bastard
*****
15,268 posts
Alma, you said this and genuinely thought you were making some kind of brilliant point:

You wrote:
So apes are humans?


That's all I need to show you are not an intelligent person.
____________________________
My Movember page
Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.

LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
#268 Apr 27 2011 at 5:56 AM Rating: Good
****
4,158 posts
Alma. I'm not talking about your 'beliefs' you fUckwit. I'm talking about mine. One of them being that you are 'stupid'. Not just a bit stupid, but all out, utterly, literally, thick-as-a-brick rock stupid.

And as evidence I would refer anyone who can be ***** to look, pretty much every post you have ever written.
____________________________
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.

#269 Apr 27 2011 at 6:08 AM Rating: Good
Soulless Internet Tiger
******
35,381 posts
Almalieque wrote:
Simply stating that my belief is "stupid" doesn't make it stupid.
Its not stating that your belief is stupid. What's stupid is you. The thought processes you present to us take leaps and bounds in logic and twist truths in ways that boggle. Your beliefs aren't stupid, your reasons for them are. And that shows your level, or lack, of intelligence.
____________________________
Donate. One day it could be your family.


An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo

#270 Apr 27 2011 at 6:12 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
I'm of course not saying that water proves God's existence, but it certainly doesn't disprove it.

You can't prove that God doesn't exist as you would be proving a negative. Someone arguing for ID/Creationism needs to prove that said Creator does exist and designed life.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#271 Apr 27 2011 at 6:20 AM Rating: Decent
***
2,069 posts
Jophiel wrote:
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
I'm of course not saying that water proves God's existence, but it certainly doesn't disprove it.

You can't prove that God doesn't exist as you would be proving a negative. Someone arguing for ID/Creationism needs to prove that said Creator does exist and designed life.


Maybe in order to teach it as science in schools they would need to prove it, but they don't need to prove it to believe it.
____________________________
http://www.marriageissogay.com/

Song of the day:
May 26, 2011 -- Transplants
#272 Apr 27 2011 at 6:22 AM Rating: Good
Soulless Internet Tiger
******
35,381 posts
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Maybe in order to teach it as science in schools they would need to prove it
Wasn't that the point of the discussion?
____________________________
Donate. One day it could be your family.


An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo

#273 Apr 27 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Excellent
Liberal Conspiracy
*******
TILT
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
they don't need to prove it to believe it.

Well, no. If evidence was required to believe stuff, the world would be a very different place. That's neither here nor there towards passing it off as science in the classroom.
____________________________
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#274 Apr 27 2011 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
***
2,069 posts
Nilatai wrote:
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Nilatai wrote:


Not randomly, it's just how water is. You make the assumption that life is the goal of the Universe.




If the universe can have goals, who's to say that the universe isn't some type of higher power. I'm of course not saying that water proves God's existence, but it certainly doesn't disprove it.

I do think that deep down, all religions are essentially the same, just different paths to the same destination.
Oh, Pantheism. Okay. I'm not saying it can't, but you're saying that it can. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Again, the onus is on the one making the claim. Not on the one refuting it.


To claim the Universe has some kind of conciousness requires you to do some kind of research to find empirical evidence that this is the case. Kind of like every other claim that has ever been made by every other human in the history of the world.

edit: Also to quote Pierre-Simon Laplace when asked by Napoleon where god was in his model of the Universe: "I had no need of that hypothesis".

Edited, Apr 27th 2011 7:01am by Nilatai


I'm not saying that water proves God exists, in fact I said it doesn't prove or disprove it. I just was raising an interesting point and wanted other opinions on it. I don't mean to imply that it is evidence of god though, so I apologize if you took it that way.

Edited, Apr 27th 2011 8:31am by Ailitardif
____________________________
http://www.marriageissogay.com/

Song of the day:
May 26, 2011 -- Transplants
#275 Apr 27 2011 at 6:32 AM Rating: Default
The All Knowing
Avatar
*****
10,152 posts
Nilatai wrote:
Alma, you said this and genuinely thought you were making some kind of brilliant point:

You wrote:
So apes are humans?


That's all I need to show you are not an intelligent person.


Almalieque wrote:

My entire counter to your "we're animals" argument is that there are differences between animals and humans regardless if you consider humans as animals or not. You countered that humans are apes, disregarding that distinction, implying that we are animals, great apes to be exact. So, by baboons being ***, it's natural for humans to be *** or something to that effect.

Well, I simply turned your statement around to say "oh, apes are humans?". Obviously you don't believe that. So, if it doesn't work both ways, then that means that there are not equal and there exist a difference between the two. In other words, just because something is natural with an ape or baboon, doesn't mean it's natural with humans because we aren't the same thing! Else, you would have agreed to the "apes are humans".


I already explained that to you. Just because it's natural for a cheetah to run at incredible fast rates, doesn't make it natural for a house cat to do the same because they are both cats. They are two different animals.

So, if I missed your mark, then what was the relevance in mentioning homosexuality in nature?

Paulsol wrote:
Alma. I'm not talking about your 'beliefs' you ******** I'm talking about mine. One of them being that you are 'stupid'. Not just a bit stupid, but all out, utterly, literally, thick-as-a-brick rock stupid.

And as evidence I would refer anyone who can be ***** to look, pretty much every post you have ever written.


Paul. I'm not talking about your 'beliefs' you ******** I'm talking about mine. One of them being that you are 'stupid'. Not just a bit stupid, but all out, utterly, literally, thick-as-a-brick rock stupid.

And as evidence I would refer anyone who can be ***** to look, pretty much every post you have ever written.

I guess that puts us at a stalemate? Such compelling evidence.

Ugly wrote:
Its not stating that your belief is stupid. What's stupid is you. The thought processes you present to us take leaps and bounds in logic and twist truths in ways that boggle. Your beliefs aren't stupid, your reasons for them are. And that shows your level, or lack, of intelligence.


Your inability to follow a process doesn't make me stupid either, but to be fair, specifically name me a thought process that is "stupid" and we can discuss it.
#276 Apr 27 2011 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
***
2,069 posts
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:
Maybe in order to teach it as science in schools they would need to prove it
Wasn't that the point of the discussion?


That discussion with Alma? I guess, could you even follow that?
____________________________
http://www.marriageissogay.com/

Song of the day:
May 26, 2011 -- Transplants
Reply To Thread
Message has high abuse count and will not be displayed.">

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 64 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (64)