Yes. I help support single mothers all of the time, by giving them money to pay for finances. It's slightly different as it isn't child support, but the money is often used for the child. In any case, it helps the mother.
Yeah, the reason you have to do that? Deadbeat dads.
It's either or, pick one. Either share the "responsibility" of raising the child or have total say so on the matter. You can't pick and choose whatever suits you at the time.
First, there will never
be "equal responsibility." No matter how you try to spin it, a man will never be "equally responsible" for a child (assuming that the mother is in the picture at all, of course. But if she isn't, then the man gets child support).
Second, apparently we can "pick and choose," because that's how the law is now. Shore do hate it for you.
If you want the total say so on the birth of the child, then that means the man should be totally excluded from YOUR decision. If you want to mandate the man to be part of the child's life (which you should), then you also should be mandated to be part of the child's life.
I have absolutely no idea what this means.
How am I pretending it's the woman's fault when my entire argument is "Equality of responsibility", that doesn't even make sense. I provided two scenarios where the "responsibility" is equal. No where have I pointed the finger at the woman. I simply said that if you want total control, fine, leave the man out of it then. If you want to mandate the man to support the child, then you should be mandated as well. It's totally equal, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
All you're doing is pointing the finger at the woman! Claiming that she's irresponsible over and over. And no, neither of your "scenarios" provided have "equal responsibility." That's impossible to do when talking about the birth of a kid. And all this "mandated" crap, what the **** are you talking about? Are you seriously equating a man having to pay some money to support a kid to nine months of incubating a child then raising it...? Seriously??
Not at all. You're just really really confused.
No, I think your emotions are just running away with you and you're too blind to see it.
I mean, instead of saying "Both men and women should be more responsible when having **** and take ownership to what may result", you're arguing "You can't force a woman to have a baby and by doing so you're hurting the child and the woman." We all know that ish happens, but why are you arguing in reaction as opposed to prevention?
Why am I "arguing reaction as opposed to prevention?" Because we're talking about abortion. Have I said anywhere in this thread that abortion is the only solution to possible pregnancy, and no woman should ever be on the pill, no man should ever use a condom? Why are you pulling **** into this arbitrarily and pretending I've argued something I haven't?
Side note: I hear what women say about each other, I probably respect women more than the average woman does.
Trust me. From what you've posted in this thread, you're dead wrong.