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#1 Apr 06 2011 at 2:41 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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Reporting from Baghdad, Iraq yesterday, NBC’s Tom Brokaw said the Saudi Arabian monarchy is “so unhappy with the Obama administration for the way it pushed out President Mubarak of Egypt” that it has sent senior officials to the Peoples' Republic of China and Russia to seek expanded business opportunities with those countries.


Is anyone surprised by this?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/nbc-s-brokaw-saudis-so-unhappy-obama-adm
#2 Apr 06 2011 at 2:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why do you want to side with terrorist sympathizers? Most of the people who attacked us on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. I just don't get why you hate America so much.

Not a shocker that Varus hates freedom.

If you were looking for a serious reply, then lol @ you.
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Nope. Saudi Arabia doesn't like the idea of democracy and wanted the US to prop up Mubarak. The US didn't and the Saudis are upset and making diplomatic noises. Welcome to geopolitics, I guess?
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#4varusword75, Posted: Apr 06 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Joph,
#5 Apr 06 2011 at 3:42 PM Rating: Good
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So don't come here and pretend like you care about anyone in the ME; it just isn't so.
Guess you don't care about anyone in Egypt then, lol.
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And how about the radical muslims that violently took control of the govn? Do you think they value the idea of democracy?

You're ******** about Saudi Arabia, right?
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#7 Apr 06 2011 at 5:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fact is Obama has p*ssed on every major ME ally W spent a decade creating.
Its cute you think we had allies in the Middle East.
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And how about the radical muslims that violently took control of the govn? Do you think they value the idea of democracy?

You're ******** about Saudi Arabia, right?



Iraq, I think..
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#9varusword75, Posted: Apr 07 2011 at 8:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lolgax,
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Whether it was out of fear or respect

Cash.
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#11 Apr 07 2011 at 8:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
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Whether it was out of fear or respect

Money, Cash, Ho's.


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#12 Apr 07 2011 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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Country A is ruled by an Oligarchy under which the majority of its workforce is ruthlessly taken advantage of, and social progression is ruthlessly suppressed.

Country B was ruled by an Oligarchy masquerading as a democracy until a popular uprising of citizens (mostly) peacefully rebelled, seeking democratic reform.

Which side would you REALLY rather be on?
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#13varusword75, Posted: Apr 07 2011 at 9:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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You realize cash is the only reason we should be in the region to begin with don't you?

Certainly, it would have been a lot cheaper to pay Saddam a couple billion to be our buddy than to spend a decade of military action overseas, right? Bush sure was dumb.
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#16 Apr 07 2011 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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lolgax,

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Its cute you think we had allies in the Middle East.


We did before Obama took office.
Ahahahahaha, each time I think you couldn't be any stupider, you find ways to hit an even lower rock bottom.

You're pathetic.
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#17varusword75, Posted: Apr 07 2011 at 10:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#18varusword75, Posted: Apr 07 2011 at 10:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bsphil,
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#21 Apr 07 2011 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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W taking out Saddam was as much a message to the rest of the ME not to f*ck with W

So why were we showering our Middle East "allies" with billions of dollars in aid if they were all so effectively cowed by Bush's mighty stance in Iraq?

We spent billions upon billions in Iraq so we could scare everyone into submission... and then give them billions upon billions in aid to be our friends?

That's some pretty great planning!
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#22 Apr 07 2011 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophed,

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Certainly, it would have been a lot cheaper to pay Saddam a couple billion to be our buddy than to spend a decade of military action overseas, right? Bush sure was dumb.


No it wouldn't have. W taking out Saddam was as much a message to the rest of the ME not to f*ck with W which saved the US consumer billions in revenue. You know these high gas prices we're seeing now are a result of Obama's limp d*cked efforts in the ME don't you?
That'd be great except we paid HIGHER prices for gas under W and documented a drastic increase in anti-American sentiments from the middle east as a result of our invasion of Iraq. Reality is a harsh mistress.

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Sarah Palin would not approve of the use of that term. You wouldn't want to disappoint Mrs. Palin, would you? Don't shy away from being a conservative hack now.



Edited, Apr 7th 2011 12:42pm by bsphil
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#23 Apr 07 2011 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Apr 7th 2011 12:42pm by bsphil
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#24 Apr 07 2011 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aripya,

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Country B was ruled by an Oligarchy masquerading as a democracy until a popular uprising of citizens (mostly) peacefully rebelled, seeking democratic reform.


This is complete mis-characterization of Country B. Allow me to fix this;

Country B was ruled by an Oligarchy masquerading as a democracy that was friendly the US until a staged uprising spured on by radical foregin muslims violently rebelled with the intent of installing a radical islamist state that will be unfriendly to the US.



I hope you don't vote, so that you are simply an ignorant cunt, instead of a dangerous ignorant cunt.

Your lack of knowledge and understanding about the recent events in Egypt are breathtaking in their scope.

Moron. Pond-scum. Evolutionary dead-end. Self-absorbed, self-serving, parasitic Amoeba.
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Certainly, it would have been a lot cheaper to pay Saddam a couple billion to be our buddy than to spend a decade of military action overseas, right? Bush sure was dumb.


No it wouldn't have. W taking out Saddam was as much a message to the rest of the ME not to f*ck with W which saved the US consumer billions in revenue. You know these high gas prices we're seeing now are a result of Obama's limp d*cked efforts in the ME don't you?


To be fair oil and gas prices are merely returning to the pre recession levels. That had steadily climbed since the Iraq War began. Mostly because Wars generally drive oil prices up, especially Wars the the US is part of. But I suppose that a 700billion (conservative estimate as it is based on this from Sept 2010) is a real money saver.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf

Lets not also forget Afghanistan which rounds the total to about 1.3 trillion dollars, and climbing. But I suppose saving billions, while at the same time spending hundreds of billions down the road is a great economic service to ones nation. Not to mention said foreign policy hurt relations with long time allies France and Germany as well as several other nations. Not to mention many nations in the mid-east who felt this was a muslim head hunt, which of course wasn't helped any when bush said God told him to invade Iraq.

http://www.unknownnews.net/insanity7.html

"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East."

—George W. Bush

Id say in the past 3 months Obama has done more for middle east democracy and freedom than any president has in the last 20 years (since the Camp David Accord between Israel and Egypt). This was achieved by mostly keeping the big US nose out of things, unless asked for by the nations in the region, which happened to be what happened prior to this coalition against Libya formed. Not only did Libyans ask for help from the West, but other Arab nations such as the UAE, asked for assistance in implementing this No Fly zone.

So really I don't understand the gripe? Do you hate freedom? Support a war that apparently God decided upon, and then have the Gall to claim said war saved the American people money.

I really wish I saw the world in such a warped view that you do, it must be utterly fascinating to see reality skewed in such a blur of hilarity and misinformation.


Edited, Apr 7th 2011 2:39pm by rdmcandie
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#26varusword75, Posted: Apr 07 2011 at 3:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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