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#177varusword75, Posted: Mar 22 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Joph,
#178 Mar 22 2011 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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No you're not.

Well, shucks golly. You got me there!
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#179 Mar 22 2011 at 11:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's better than it was, but there's still work to be done. I know there are lawsuits too, I don't think any of them have been settled.

Good ole coal!

ETA: This is @ Sam. Forgotted my quote.

Edited, Mar 22nd 2011 1:46pm by Nadenu
#180 Mar 22 2011 at 6:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
I oppose killing human families to clear land and construct power plants.

Because I'm liberal like that.


And yet you mow over a family of bunny rabbits in the name of a well-kept lawn, you *******.

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#181varusword75, Posted: Mar 23 2011 at 7:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#182 Mar 23 2011 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Thing is you know every word I wrote is 100% dead on accurate.

mmhmm... Well, you believe it and that's the important thing.
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#183varusword75, Posted: Mar 23 2011 at 10:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Joph,
#184 Mar 23 2011 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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varusword75 wrote:
Joph,

Belief has nothing to do with it.

This coming from a devout Baptist...
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#185varusword75, Posted: Mar 23 2011 at 1:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Debo,
#186 Mar 24 2011 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, so you're not the fundamentalist nutter you've been portraying? Ok then.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#187varusword75, Posted: Mar 25 2011 at 7:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Debo,
#188 Mar 25 2011 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Devout means he would actually have to follow the rules and stop picking up *** men on internet sites.
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#189 Mar 25 2011 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Bardalicious wrote:
Devout means he would actually have to follow the rules and stop picking up *** men on internet sites.

True. He could run for office on a Family Values platform.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#190 Mar 25 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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And now it looks like Michele Bachmann is looking to split the right even further asunder with a 2012 run for the Oval Office.

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#191 Mar 25 2011 at 4:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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I guess at this point the safe money is on Palin taking the hits for sitting this one out as a "lesser evil" over the complete embarrassment she'd suffer by running. If Bachmann thought Palin was going to run, I can't imagine that she'd be in the race.
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#192 Mar 25 2011 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Debo,

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Oh, so you're not the fundamentalist nutter you've been portraying?


I don't have to attend services twice a week to know that abortion is wrong. Nor do I need to do so to know that the 10 commandments are probably a good thing and should be plastered on as many public buildings as humanly possible.

I guess religion is pretty convenient when the rules don't apply to you
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#193 Mar 25 2011 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
I guess at this point the safe money is on Palin taking the hits for sitting this one out as a "lesser evil" over the complete embarrassment she'd suffer by running. If Bachmann thought Palin was going to run, I can't imagine that she'd be in the race.

Oh come on, Bachmann/Palin 2012 would be great!
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#194 Mar 25 2011 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
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varusword75 wrote:
Debo,

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Oh, so you're not the fundamentalist nutter you've been portraying?


I don't have to attend services twice a week to know that abortion is wrong. Nor do I need to do so to know that the 10 commandments are probably a good thing and should be plastered on as many public buildings as humanly possible.

I guess religion is pretty convenient when the rules don't apply to you

As long as you forcefully apply them to everyone else though!
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#195 Mar 25 2011 at 6:35 PM Rating: Default
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Samira wrote:
And now it looks like Michele Bachmann is looking to split the right even further asunder with a 2012 run for the Oval Office.


If only there was some method that members of a political party could use to decide which candidate they'd field in the general election. Some system by which that party's members could ensure that one strong candidate with the broadest representation of the party would be run with the other members stepping down so as not to block their chances in the general. It's just too bad we don't have something like this, because it would really be helpful. Shucks!
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#196 Mar 25 2011 at 6:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sure, sure. My point is that she inspires the fringe, and that her candidacy will pull the party even farther to the right, because moderates have no balls in politics.

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#197 Mar 25 2011 at 6:57 PM Rating: Default
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Sure, sure. My point is that she inspires the fringe, and that her candidacy will pull the party even farther to the right, because moderates have no balls in politics.


That's a good thing though. It's not necessarily about a "tea party candidate" winning the primary, but making sure that whomever does win has to spend time addressing the tea party issues. Most likely whomever does win will be a more moderate candidate, but if that moderate candidate can find a way to assure the tea party folks that he's got their principles in mind, while not scaring away the independents in the middle, that candidate will be a much stronger candidate and have a better chance of unseating Obama than one that just played the middle course from day one. Obviously, there are a ton of variables involved, and I'm not even going to attempt to guess how things will actually go. However, I do happen to think that the involvement in a broader set of issues based candidates in a primary is generally better for the party and it's also better for the people as a whole when a candidate comes out of the process.

I don't want fringe candidates winning too much power in high office. However, I *do* want their ideas and issues to be part of what's taken into account when those who do win take those offices. Where those fringe candidates do harm is when they don't win a primary and then embark on a third party debacle, which almost always ends out badly for them and the party they were originally working with. I don't think Bachmann will do that though, so I'm not too concerned about here influence "tearing the party". Pulling them a bit? Again, that's a good thing IMO. We need more Republicans at least talking about the conservative principles espoused by the tea party.
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#198 Mar 25 2011 at 10:50 PM Rating: Good
This upcoming Republican primary looks to be pretty entertaining, with Bachmann & Trump already declaring. I'd guess a more moderate candidate would actually win the primary, yet the two biggest "moderate" Republicans that will most likely run, Romney & Giuliani, have real issues with the tea party.

The debates should be fun though. Trump & Bachmann are birthers, Romney invented Obamcare, & Giuliani only became conservative during his last run for President. So, who knows what'll happen?
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#199 Mar 26 2011 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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****, *I* may vote for Giuliani.
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we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#200 Mar 26 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Giuliani won't do shit. He said he MIGHT run if there isn't a moderate. But given that Romney is a certainty to run and Romney is the GOP's version of a moderate, there's no real room for a Giuliani run.
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#201 Mar 26 2011 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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****, *I* may vote for Giuliani.
An Italian from Brooklyn? Fuck yeah.
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