Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So we have lots of quotes from liberals claiming that everyone is in agreement, but I still don't see a single one from Boehner saying it. It looks to me like the Dems jumped the gun, proclaimed their proposal to be the one everyone agreed to, shoved that assumption in front of the media, and when the GOP responded with "Wait a minute! We didn't agree to that at all", the Dems are attempting to pretend that because they said it was agreed upon, the GOP has to stick with it.
Wow, you're charmingly naive and easily trained. Boehner had a week to actively push back against the $33B number.
Huh? The only people talking about that number were the Dems Joph. I'm not sure why you insist on reading more into this than "This is the number the Dems wanted so they told the media that's the number they were working towards".
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He didn't until the next week when he was getting castigated by his own party. You won't be able to find a single source (including Boehner's aides or GOP people actually in the talks) saying any different number.
No source? Except perhaps H.R. 1, in which the number was 61B, right? You're still failing to get that this was the "starting point" of negotiations. Boehner doesn't need to run to the media to tell them what his number is since hs and the House already provided that figure.
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Know why? Because there was no different number.
Of course there was. You just want to ignore it.
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Oh, and the March 29 article plainly states that the GOP was coming into the negotiations asking for $36B with the Democrats asking for $30B.
Lol! You are being incredibly naive and cherry picking numbers now. The GOP proposed dropping their number from 61B to 36B *if* that 36B included certain guarantees (like the cuts to the NEA, NPR, and Planned Parenthood which have kinda been part of the whole topic as well). That was the compromise Joph. "We'll drop the number to 36 if you agree to allow these specific cuts". The Dems clearly rejected that, but then insisted on using that 36B number as though it had been offered with no other conditions. And now they're trying to play like it's all super fair to split the difference between that number and their starting number of 30B and arrive at a "compromise" of 33B.
Surely even you can see how that's BS. If there are no conditions, then the compromise needs to be between 61B and 30B, not 36B and 30B as the Dems are trying to get away with. That's why the GOP came back with the insistence on those riders in the bill. They're willing to drop the total number into that range but only if those specific cuts are included. That was and is the only way any number in the 30B range has been considered by the GOP.
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The same numbers are backed up in the March 30 article from The Hill. The $33B was the compromise between the two of them.
Lol! Sucker.