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#302 Apr 06 2011 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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#303 Apr 06 2011 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, yeah; but that's like saying "if you didn't want to get harassed constantly you shouldn't have courted fame." No one knows what it's really like until they're there, and then it's your life.

I'm not sending him flowers, but I think it's fair to acknowledge that all those potshots he took at Pelosi are chewing on his *** right about now. That's amusing, but I do feel a tiny bit sorry for him at the same time.

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#304 Apr 06 2011 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nah, I get what you're saying. I'd feel worse for him if he was actually sticking to his attempt to hit the Democrats around the mark they were both agreeing to rather than constantly capitulating to a handful of Tea Party goons. But this is the Congress he asked for.
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#305 Apr 06 2011 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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You know, I think that's what makes me feel sorriest for him.

Bless his heart, as we'd say back in the mother country.

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#306 Apr 06 2011 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Having played video games from a young age, I am physiologically incapable of feeling sorry for Boehner.
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#307 Apr 06 2011 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Which video game is an appropriate metaphor, here?

You are the speaker of the house.
It is totally dark.
You may be eaten by a grue.
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#308 Apr 06 2011 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Which video game is an appropriate metaphor, here?

You are the speaker of the house.
It is totally dark.
You may be eaten by a grue.
I was thinking Resident Evil.
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#309 Apr 06 2011 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Samira wrote:
Which video game is an appropriate metaphor, here?

You are the speaker of the house.
It is totally dark.
You may be eaten by a grue.
I was thinking Resident Evil.


"Boehner, YOU'RE small time!!"
#310 Apr 06 2011 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Which video game is an appropriate metaphor, here?

You are the speaker of the house.
It is totally dark.
You may be eaten by a grue.


That'd be a pretty immersive game. I can really imagine myself in his shoes.

Briefly. Before being ripped out of them and torn apart by a ravenous grue.

Anyway, uh... Pac-Man?

Boehner rushes to collect his anti-anxiety medication, chased by the ghosts of Pelosi, McCain, Coussoule and, uh... Clyde. The big pills represent perfectly weighted burns hurled Obama's way, cooked up in the sizzling cauldron of chemicals where his brain floats.
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#311varusword75, Posted: Apr 06 2011 at 11:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) According to the polls if there's a shutdown the dems are going to blamed by most of the voters, regardless of what Boehner says.
#312 Apr 06 2011 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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"The polls". Ah.
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#313 Apr 06 2011 at 2:22 PM Rating: Default
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So I assume there's no division nor concern among Democrats about the political fallout from a shutdown? Or is it that no one's writing that story? Hmmm....
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#314 Apr 06 2011 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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According to the GOP, all the Democrats are praying for a shut-down so, no, I guess no divisions there.
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#315 Apr 06 2011 at 2:38 PM Rating: Default
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According to the GOP, all the Democrats are praying for a shut-down so, no, I guess no divisions there.


So the GOP is actually discussing among themselves ways to avoid a shutdown, while the Dems aren't? Just checking...
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Nah, the Democrats have been working on the $33B number that Boehner originally asked for so they can avoid a shut-down.

The primary difference being that no one is throwing a fit and saying "Five billion or NOTHING!!!" despite the $33B number being larger than their starting point. Since no one is throwing a fit, it's not really news like the Tea Party hysteria is.
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#317 Apr 06 2011 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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varusword75 wrote:
According to the polls
I see no polls referenced in your post.
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#318 Apr 06 2011 at 3:02 PM Rating: Default
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Nah, the Democrats have been working on the $33B number that Boehner originally asked for so they can avoid a shut-down.


I still love how you (not you really since you're just parroting what you hear) are cherry picking one number likely just bandied about in a meeting one day with no weight behind it, while ignoring the reality that the House passed a bill with a different number in it. That's the starting point of the negotiation Joph. Not some convenient number which the left wants to cling to because it happens to be the number they wanted in the first place.

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The primary difference being that no one is throwing a fit and saying "Five billion or NOTHING!!!" despite the $33B number being larger than their starting point. Since no one is throwing a fit, it's not really news like the Tea Party hysteria is.


The only people I see throwing any fits are the liberals jumping up and down and yelling about the GOP. You yell about them being unreasonable. Then you yell about them disagreeing with each other. Then you just yell for the sake of yelling. I'm not seeing any panic among the right Joph. What I'm seeing is a whole lot of liberals running around at breakneck speed attempting to spin this.
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#319 Apr 06 2011 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
I'm not seeing any panic among the right Joph.
You're not looking very hard, but just about anyone should know that about you by this point.
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#320 Apr 06 2011 at 3:13 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
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I'm not seeing any panic among the right Joph.
You're not looking very hard, but just about anyone should know that about you by this point.


All I'm seeing is liberals trying really hard to convince everyone that the GOP is panicking. Of course, if all you do is get your news from liberal sources, I can see how you might assume this is "everyone".
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#321 Apr 06 2011 at 3:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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All I see is one side favoring a party of morons while another side is favoring a party of idiots, and a lot of pretending that there is a difference between the two.

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#322 Apr 06 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
I'm not seeing any panic among the right Joph.
You're not looking very hard, but just about anyone should know that about you by this point.


All I'm seeing is liberals trying really hard to convince everyone that the GOP is panicking. Of course, if all you do is get your news from liberal sources, I can see how you might assume this is "everyone".
I'm talking mainly about the division between the traditional GOP and the Tea Party, the Tea party expecting drastically larger cuts and the GOP not willing to negotiate nearly as much. I know there's no chance of me convincing you of reality though, not going to even bother. Keep saying your party is unified, it's amusing each time.
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#323 Apr 06 2011 at 3:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
I still love how you (not you really since you're just parroting what you hear) are cherry picking one number likely just bandied about in a meeting one day with no weight behind it, while ignoring the reality that the House passed a bill with a different number in it.

Hahahahaha...

This is where Gbaji goes from "I'm intentionally ignorant and it's the BEST!!" to "I'm a politics savvy guy who knows all the facts!!"

No, they were using that $33B number for weeks throughout multiple meetings. I'd ask where you get your information from but... well, you know. The House can pass whatever it wants. Without the Senate agreeing to it, it's not worth a whole lot. And, in case you missed it in your attempts to remain ignorant so you're not accidentally "parroting" any accurate numbers or facts, that bill died in the Senate when it failed to pass a vote. So now, rather than waste time with GOP filibusters and crap, the Senate Democrats have been trying to strike the deal now with Boehner so a real budget bill can pass through both chambers. The number they've been working on for that budget was $33B.

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I'm not seeing any panic among the right Joph.

That's okay. Their panic isn't dependent upon your perception :)
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#324 Apr 06 2011 at 3:27 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
I'm not seeing any panic among the right Joph.
You're not looking very hard, but just about anyone should know that about you by this point.


All I'm seeing is liberals trying really hard to convince everyone that the GOP is panicking. Of course, if all you do is get your news from liberal sources, I can see how you might assume this is "everyone".
I'm talking mainly about the division between the traditional GOP and the Tea Party, the Tea party expecting drastically larger cuts and the GOP not willing to negotiate nearly as much. I know there's no chance of me convincing you of reality though, not going to even bother. Keep saying your party is unified, it's amusing each time.


Wait! You're saying that within a political party there might be different groups of people who might not always agree 100% on everything! OMG! Alert the media!!!

This hardly constitutes "panic". It's healthy debate within a party. The point is that the House passed a bill with 61 Billion in cuts. That is the position of the House Republicans on this issue. That's what they decided on. It's funny how much weight the left is putting on the fact that not every Republican is in absolute lockstep on this.


Do you think that every Democrat is in lockstep with sticking with the 33B figure and not negotiating on any of the issues the GOP has put forth? I would find that amazingly unlikely. The only difference is that no one in the media is making a point of finding Dems who think that they should compromise a bit and writing story after story about it in an attempt to make it look like they're divided on this issue.


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Jophiel wrote:

No, they were using that $33B number for weeks throughout multiple meetings.


Source?
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gbaji wrote:
Wait! You're saying that within a political party there might be different groups of people who might not always agree 100% on everything! OMG! Alert the media!!!
So debate within the party is no big deal as long as you're the Republican party?
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