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#1 Feb 28 2011 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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President Barack Obama will win the 2012 presidential election. I'm confidently stating this now in early 2011. So confidently, in fact, that I shall make a $25 wager with the first three of the following five people who agree to it:

Gbaji, Varus, ThiefX, Totem & Moe.

My statement is this: Unless medically incapacitated or deceased, Barack Obama will seek a second term as president in 2012 and win the general election. If President Obama declines to run, loses either the primary or general election or is removed from office, I will have lost the bet. If he wins the general election, I will have won the bet. If he is medically incapacitated or deceased prior to the November election, the bet will be void with no winner. I will make/accept payment via personal check or money order. If you wish, I will instead donate your winnings to the charity/political organization of your choice.

If you are one of those five people, simply reply to this thread saying that you accept my wager.

So, rather than 20 months of "lol you actually think obama will win" and "This will be HUGE when he runs against Newt Romney or Sarah Huckabee-Barbour!", who shall be first to step up?

Edit: Money Order =/= Mail Order

Edited, Feb 28th 2011 2:25pm by Jophiel
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#2 Feb 28 2011 at 2:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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$25 says that Varus tries to assassinate Obama if he is close to winning so that he can weasel out of the bet.
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$25 says that Varus tries to assassinate Obama if he is close to winning so that he can weasel out of the bet.
I'll take that bet. Varus is to much of a wuss to do anything other than hide behind a computer screen.
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Bardalicious wrote:
$25 says that Varus tries to assassinate Obama if he is close to winning so that he can weasel out of the bet.
I'll take that bet. Varus is to much of a wuss to do anything other than hide behind a computer screen.
I'm gonna count it if Varus hires someone else to do it.

He'll probably pay them off with free rides in his awesome car!
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Bardalicious wrote:
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Bardalicious wrote:
$25 says that Varus tries to assassinate Obama if he is close to winning so that he can weasel out of the bet.
I'll take that bet. Varus is to much of a wuss to do anything other than hide behind a computer screen.
I'm gonna count it if Varus hires someone else to do it.

He'll probably pay them off with free rides in his awesome car!


He'll probably do some complex scheme like getting Obama to dress in a moose costume for some charity event, then giving a drunk Sarah Palin a rifle and pointing her in the right direction.
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He'll probably do some complex scheme like getting Obama to dress in a moose costume for some charity event


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President Barack Obama will win the 2012 presidential election. I'm confidently stating this now in early 2011. So confidently, in fact, that I shall make a $25 wager with the first three of the following five people who agree to it:

Gbaji, Varus, ThiefX, Totem & Moe.

My statement is this: Unless medically incapacitated or deceased, Barack Obama will seek a second term as president in 2012 and win the general election. If President Obama declines to run, loses either the primary or general election or is removed from office, I will have lost the bet. If he wins the general election, I will have won the bet. If he is medically incapacitated or deceased prior to the November election, the bet will be void with no winner. I will make/accept payment via personal check or money order. If you wish, I will instead donate your winnings to the charity/political organization of your choice.

If you are one of those five people, simply reply to this thread saying that you accept my wager.

So, rather than 20 months of "lol you actually think obama will win" and "This will be HUGE when he runs against Newt Romney or Sarah Huckabee-Barbour!", who shall be first to step up?

Edit: Money Order =/= Mail Order

Edited, Feb 28th 2011 2:25pm by Jophiel


I'm curious: did some recent revelation trigger this assertion? Or was this something that you've believed for some time? He seems a good bet to run and win to me, but you've a more apt political mind than I do, and I was wondering why you're willing to bet on it now.

Feel free to wait to respond until your conservative competition commits to the bet, if you want.

Edited, Feb 28th 2011 4:59pm by Eske
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That's sort of like saying "I bet the blind bumps in to a wall." No matter how much you hope it won't happen, it's kind of a sure thing.
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I'm curious: did some recent revelation trigger this assertion? Or was this something that you've believed for some time?

Both. I assumed he'd win but the weakness of the probable 2012 GOP field has me more and more convinced. But then, last presidential election, we had the usual array of chuckleheads saying I was going to be surprised and all the polls were wrong and how funny it was that I thought he had a chance... so I figured I'd give them the chance to step up now.

Moe, I figured you would be too smart to take a sucker's bet but I figured I might as well widen the net a touch and give it a shot.

Edited, Feb 28th 2011 4:09pm by Jophiel
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#10varusword75, Posted: Feb 28 2011 at 4:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
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I won't take that bet until I know for sure the GOP isn't nominating another McCain.


So you're looking forward to Palin being nominated, huh?
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Shady,

Palin would crush Obama if the elections were tomorrow.

Hahaha. No way.
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ITT varus admits that he realizes the republicans are *******
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varusword75 wrote:
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Palin would crush Obama if the elections were tomorrow. H*ll Hitlary would crush Obama if the primaries were tomorrow.

Then bet. It's an easy $25 dollars for you, even if that would be chump change for a man who owns a five CD changer. And if Joph doesn't pay up, he'll look like a fool in front of the forum. You can't lose this.

Edited, Feb 28th 2011 5:54pm by Allegory
#16 Feb 28 2011 at 6:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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I won't take that bet until I know for sure the GOP isn't nominating another McCain.

Pussy :)

When McCain was the nominee you had nothing to say except how he was going to crush Obama.

Edited, Feb 28th 2011 6:07pm by Jophiel
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Did you honestly think varus, of all people, was going to be man enough to stand for his convictions? I mean, I know you had to add him to the roster but really...
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I honestly don't believe any of them will take me up on it.

If I had to lay odds on one, it would be Totem just for the lark of it.
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#19gbaji, Posted: Feb 28 2011 at 8:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Maybe.
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gbaji wrote:
But you mentioned it anyway, presumably so you could later suggest that our lack of taking you up suggests some form of admission that Obama is the greatest president since sliced bread or something?

That and I figured it was an easy $25-$75 in my pocket :)

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I'm not taking you up on it for a couple reasons...

First and foremost should be because you got every prediction you made about the 2008 election completely wrong. But all that rationalizing you just did... I bet that was good too :D
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Of course he's going to win the 2012 election. Why else would some of the major GOP voices be hesitant to run in 2012 but are eager to run in 2016? They know they're just going to lose in 2012, so they're going to wait until after the end of his second term.
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Well, that goes back to the weak GOP field. Anyone who might mount a credible challenge seems to be keeping their powder dry for 2016 rather than risk an embarrassing loss next year.
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I'm not taking you up on it for a couple reasons...

First and foremost should be because you got every prediction you made about the 2008 election completely wrong. But all that rationalizing you just did... I bet that was good too :D


Actually, I was right about a lot of my predictions. I just underestimated the degree of gullibility of the US public. For example. I predicted that Obama didn't really intent to build nuclear power plants, despite him suggesting so in order to make himself appear more moderate. And I predicted that he'd push a social spending agenda despite what he was telling the moderate voters. And I predicted that he'd make grave mistakes if he were elected because of his lack of executive experience.

See. I spend my efforts predicting "what will happen if we do X, or do Y". And while that's a great way of determining whether we should choose to do X or Y, it does not always correctly predict what the public will choose.

Call it "predicting what we should do". And on that, I'm like 10 for 10. ;)
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Actually, I was right about a lot of my predictions.

Yeah, Clinton totally won the primary and then McCain was a real powerhouse in California, sweeping up the Hispanic vote :D

And all those polls were sooo wrong with their liberal biases when they should have really been showing McCain ahead. And that Wright thing? HUGE! But not as huge as Obama not having a flag pin on! I think that was the moment where Obama lost the election for sure...

10 for 10 indeed!
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Was that a compliment stating how good the media is at showing how stupid someone is?
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gbaji wrote:

But you mentioned it anyway, presumably so you could later suggest that our lack of taking you up suggests some form of admission that Obama is the greatest president since sliced bread or something?
I don't think Obama quite has the Clinton touch, but he beats out Reagan.

But seriously, you are one paranoid person.
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Palin's many failings are all the fault of the liberal lamestream media, dontchaknow? That's why, ever since she's gone around that media filter, by using Fox and Twitter and Facebook, her favorability scores have been on a thunderous climb.
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But seriously, you are one paranoid person.

No, he's right. I absolutely plan on mocking him and Varus for being too scared to make an easy $25 on their certainty that Obama will lose in 2012. Gbaji is trying to strawman it with his "greatest ever!" remark but the fact remains that if they thought the odds were in their favor, they'd be making the bet. ****, Gbaji went to Vegas not too long ago. I guess he thinks betting against Obama is a worse prospect than betting against the house in the casinos.
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No, he's right. I absolutely plan on mocking him and Varus for being too scared to make an easy $25 on their certainty that Obama will lose in 2012


You're the one to chicken sh*t to make the bet without any caveats.

Obama's the type of person if he's losing badly in the polls will fake an illness so as to be able to bow out without actually having to face the loss.


The second the GOP primary is over i'll be happy to take your bet. Only a fool would bet on someone when they don't even know who they're betting on.


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#31 Mar 01 2011 at 8:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Only a fool would bet on someone when they don't even know who they're betting on.
Truly, that depends on what you're betting against. I'd put $100 on the Carolina Panthers not making the playoffs next year. Doesn't matter who they're up against or who they draft, or sign in the offseason. They're still going to suck. It'd be liking betting that the next 5 new posters to the Asylum are smarter than you. It's **** near can't miss. If Obama's as bad as you act, then it won't matter who goes up against him, he's going to lose. But, you know he's not as bad as you wish he was, because losing isn't a forgone conclusion, despite all of your previous claims.
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You're the one to chicken sh*t to make the bet without any caveats.

Hahahahahahha....

Pussy. Ok, since it looks like I won't be out anything anyway, let's make it $50 and remove the disqualifier about death or medical incapacitation. Deal? Right now? Or are you too "chickenshit"?
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If Obama's as bad as you act, then it won't matter who goes up against him, he's going to lose

Oh, Varus knows that Obama's going to win. All his "lol you think he'll win" bluster is just him trying to feel better. Otherwise he'd be all over an easy fifty bucks.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 8:16am by Jophiel
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Moe, I figured you would be too smart to take a sucker's bet but I figured I might as well widen the net a touch and give it a shot.

I think you were just trying to give me a "guilt by association" thing. I have never raped anyone.
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Joph,

I've already said I'd be happy to reconsider this bet when I actually have someone to bet on; not against.


Just because you have Obama's johnson shoved all the way down your throat doesn't mean you have to tell us all about it.


H*ll what kind of a tool asks someone to make a bet they won't know the results of for 2yrs?


You really need a reason to support Obama; I get this. It's not as though Obama's doing a good job otherwise you wouldn't have made this hillarious thread.







This is treading close to MonxDot territory
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Joph,

I've already said I'd be happy to reconsider this bet when I actually have someone to bet on; not against.


Just because you have Obama's johnson shoved all the way down your throat doesn't mean you have to tell us all about it.


H*ll what kind of a tool asks someone to make a bet they won't know the results of for 2yrs?


You really need a reason to support Obama; I get this. It's not as though Obama's doing a good job otherwise you wouldn't have made this hillarious thread.
Sounds like someone's afraid of losing the bet.
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I've already said I'd be happy to reconsider this bet when I actually have someone to bet on; not against.

Right. Chickenshit pussy :)
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Afraid of losing a bet 2yrs from now?

Yup.

Edited, Mar 1st 2011 9:07am by Jophiel
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Sounds like someone's afraid of losing the bet.


Afraid of losing a bet 2yrs from now? Having a bad morning?
Having a great day, myself. Keep trying to downplay your fear of taking the bet though.

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Palin would crush Obama if the elections were tomorrow.
Not even remotely close. Shit, she's not even winning in states Obama didn't carry in 2008. Her numbers even in Alaska are abysmal, even there Obama has a higher approval rating.

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What? What?? I can't hear you for all your quivering and crying.

"But.. but.. you said it didn't count if he's dead! What? You doubled it and removed that? Umm.. umm... it's... umm.... too far!!!"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....
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I know Sarah Palin can't win. I don't speculate that she can't win, I don't think she can't win, I am not even leaning towards Sarah Palin can't win. I know that there is no way Sarah Palin can win the presidency.

How, you ask? Because I wouldn't vote for her, and not that I'm the pulse of the GOP or anything, but if I wouldn't vote for her, I know that there are millions more like me that wouldn't get on the bandwagon either.
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What would you do in that situation, Palin vs Obama? Vote Obama or just not vote?
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Poor Sarah. If she runs, she'll be humiliated. If she doesn't, she becomes largely irrelevant. My guess is that she "runs" and, a couple states into the primaries, drops out with some excuse about how the liberals and the lamestream media have forced her out for the good of her family (kind of like her excuses for abandoning her governor's post). Then she'll try to stretch out her relevance by whoring out her endorsement over the next few months a la Edwards or Richardson.

Sadly, with yet another round of primary front-loading (Florida and Minnesota already are trying to be first) the window where even that would matter will be a small one. And she won't have much time to abandon her "run" before she's just crushed in a Super Tuesday style defeat and it's obvious why she was forced out.
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What would you do in that situation, Palin vs Obama? Vote Obama or just not vote?

Likely Libertarian.
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I know Sarah Palin can't win. I don't speculate that she can't win, I don't think she can't win, I am not even leaning towards Sarah Palin can't win. I know that there is no way Sarah Palin can win the presidency.

How, you ask? Because I wouldn't vote for her, and not that I'm the pulse of the GOP or anything, but if I wouldn't vote for her, I know that there are millions more like me that wouldn't get on the bandwagon either.
One of my close friends wound up not voting at all in the 2008 election rather than vote for McCain/Palin, solely because of how much he hated Palin.
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bsphil wrote:
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I know Sarah Palin can't win. I don't speculate that she can't win, I don't think she can't win, I am not even leaning towards Sarah Palin can't win. I know that there is no way Sarah Palin can win the presidency.

How, you ask? Because I wouldn't vote for her, and not that I'm the pulse of the GOP or anything, but if I wouldn't vote for her, I know that there are millions more like me that wouldn't get on the bandwagon either.
One of my close friends wound up not voting at all in the 2008 election rather than vote for McCain/Palin, solely because of how much he hated Palin.


My ancient white neighbor was proudly displaying a McCain/Palin sign on his lawn during the last election. One day, I casually brought up the sign and speculated out loud that he'd be casting his vote for the Pubbies in the upcoming election, I suspected. He said, "Actually I can't stand McCain orPalin, but I hate black people more." O.O

Good fences and all that....

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I hate to upset all you good little goose stepping liberals but McCain was the problem; not Palin.



Hey, it worked out great for me! Sorry about your horse though.

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I'm putting $25 on that Beiber chick to win.
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