I don't get offended when someone says " I only date black or white women", but I think their cheating their experiences. I do get offended when someone says "I only hire black or white women".
How is that different than "I only shop at black stores"?
Besides the fact I never implied anyone to do that, the difference is as a customer, I can freely do business with anyone I so choose. That's no different than a white guy who primarily only dated white girls. You gave your business to white women only. I think you're cheating yourself, but that's not the same as only hiring a particular race. As an employer, you no longer have that same level of freedom to discriminate. That's the difference.
What is the "it" you think you stated multiple times? Because what I saw you do multiple times and which you blithely re-quoted was your own attempts to justify your assumed correlation between community and race.
How about I quote what you first said which started this (again):
I see that you finally get it and you're in denial. When black people talk about progression in the U.S., they are usually not talking about the middle class and higher in integrated neighborhoods. They are focusing at the worst case scenarios, the "hoods", primarily black with violence, no education, drugs, etc. My "assumed correlation" had a disclaimer that it wasn't true 100% of the time, but true enough of the times to talk in generality for the sake of this argument. So, you have no excuse other than your own failure to read or refusal to accept.
I don't agree with this. Period. I think that by adopting such an insular approach and then basing it on race, you are actually harming that racial group in the long run. And the community you are building isn't going to be so great. Oh. And that community will be more dependent on hand outs than those which don't do this.
So, what you're saying is that you disagree with China Towns, little Tokyos and Asian Supermarkets and those labels equally offend you? You, know, because that's kind of what they do. If it weren't for Asian people, there wouldn't nearly be as many Asian restaurants in the U.S., yet you have this belief that there somehow would be. Interesting case of denial.
And guess what? There are decades of social statistics which bear out what I"m saying.
That's interesting, because I literally have centuries of social statistics which supports what I'm saying. Name me a country that doesn't want to supply their own needs, but want most of it to come from other countries as opposed to having all of the supplies and having other countries do business with them? Yea... So, if you're in certain countries like Japan, China, Korea,etc. where the majority of the inhabitants are of one race/nationality, isn't that parallel to a community? So, what's the difference?
Once again, you're so stuck on labels that you're confusing yourself. Generating your own money does not in any way make you more dependent on others, that's just silly.
Hell. I'm having a hard time reading more than parts of it. Alma keeps reposting irrelevant paragraphs as though they are some kind of posting goldmine or something. It's hard as hell just to keep the debate somewhat on track. It's like trying to have a conversation with an extreme ADD kid.
You're so full of trash.
You say that if the black community becomes the majority in power under some process that you don't approve, i.e. focusing on enhancing the black communities, then they will not be able to give up the "legal benefits" that they had to assist them to get where they are. As a result, this would significantly hinder the white population.
I simply asked you to state what those "legal benefits" are, since they are the source of your issue. Then you have the audacity to say it's irrelevant? Then that means your argument is irrelevant, because that's what it's based on, having "legal benefits", when not necessary.
Also, you continually through out this entire thread say it's wrong for black people to want to do business with black people. I counter you to say that this happens world wide throughout time, just in our society it is a sensitive issue. As an example, I asked you if you feel the same way about other ethnicities having "Chinese Restaurants", "Mexican Restaurants", "Italian Restaurants", etc. You reply as if it is irrelevant, so does that mean you have a merit list of ethnicities? Chinese people don't count? If not, then why does one upset you and the other doesn't? I haven't heard a single person complaining about having Japanese Steak and Sushi bars... Edited, Mar 5th 2011 2:13pm by Almalieque