The problem you are having is that you make statements which clearly indicate you believe in "X", but when someone argues against "X", you insist that's not what you believe.
Well for starters, that's false..
I disagree with the notion that the skin color of the person(s) you are benefiting should be a factor when deciding what stores to frequent, what films to watch, who to hire, how much to pay people, etc.
Did you completely miss me complaining about people voting in the 2008 presidential election based on skin color and ***?
Are you going to keep insisting to avoid my question on China Towns, Little Tokyo's, Asia Supermarkets, etc? The more you avoid this question, the more it becomes obvious that you really don't believe in what you say, only in reference to black people.
I just ate dinner at a MEXICAN restaurant, which was next to a MEXICAN grocery store for MEXICAN food (as stated on the door) with MEXICAN people as customers in a community of MEXICANs.
There is a difference between supporting person x because of their race vs supporting person x who is a specific race that provides you services and products typically not provided by other services.
Are you honestly telling me that if you went to a nice sit down Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Ethiopian, etc. restaurant and the entire staff were white Americans, that you wouldn't slightly question their authenticity? That's not to say that they can't make the food, but this notion that race has absolutely NO factor is just as silly as the notion that race is the biggest factor.
This is why you can't tell the difference between a Chinese movie vs an American movie with Chinese actors and how the spoken language is a determining factor.
Because you said something that indicated that you do believe that skin colors should be taken into account when making those decisions (specifically that minorities should help out other minorities). When I said that I didn't agree, you proceeded to spend 3 pages insisting that it wasn't really about race, all the while continuing to use the same racial language. When you finally said something I agreed with (that skin color should not be a consideration), you continued to insist that this was what you'd been saying all along, when it clearly wasn't.
You also seem confused about what you actually believe in and are falling back on rhetoric instead of founding your position on principle.
So basically, you misread my point and aren't man enough to just admit that you were wrong for 3 pages. K, got it.
I'm quite sure it hasn't. Let me take a wild stab at it: You believe that past injustices by white people against minorities (especially black and latino) justify providing those groups special benefits in order to balance those injustices out. You are perfectly OK with unequal treatment of people (both by private citizens and the government) based on their skin color as long as that unequal treatment helps out those minority groups.
First, I've asked you several times to name these "legal benefits". If you're going to talk about these benefits as the source of your argument, you should clearly say what they are.
I believe that unequal treatment will NOT help minorities in the long run but hinder minorities as these "benefits" can be taken away at any time. I believe the best thing for minority groups is to just start from scratch and work their way up and the only way that this can happen is from support from their communities, not solely based because of their skin color, but their location.
This is what you failed to grasp. Maybe in your communities everyone is diverse, heck my community is diverse, but as I stated, the emphasis isn't on these "good communities", but the poor black communities. You are only strong as your weakest link, therefore the push is for business, peace and overall success to arise from those areas. While you insist to live in la-la land, the grown folks are going to say stuff like "Black people" and "Black x", because in those scenarios, that's exactly what they are.
The problem is that you also agree with the basic principle that racial discrimination is wrong (or at least understand that others view it as wrong). So this puts you in the awkward position of having to try to argue *for* a racially discriminatory position while making it appear as though you don't support racial discrimination. And that's why you'll spend pages trying to justify your initial statements by trying to insist that most of someone's community, or friends, or family will be of the same race, so it's not really racial discrimination to say that they should "help out" people of their own race.
Again, your failure of comprehension is not my fault. I spent 3 pages on you because you were insisting something that I was never arguing. I was never in a awkward position, because I've always argued that discrimination is never inherently wrong. Just like most of your girlfriends were probably white, you racially discriminated against ever other race female that you particularly didn't date. The same is probably true with your friends. That's what I've been trying to tell you.
You're just trying to create this fictional discomfort zone for me in order to make you seem logical.
That about sum it up?
As predicted, you are completely off. You first came off as the exception to my original claim that white people (not all) in these situations are just complaining when the favor isn't on their side, but now I see, you too fit in that category.
Your entire argument is based on preventing minorities independent power because you fear change in regards to white people in regards to social status. This is why when Asians and Hispanics do the same exact thing in my examples mentioned (Asian supermarkets,Asian restaurants, Asian communities, etc.), it doesn't bother you, because you don't see them as a threat to the positive "white power". On the other hand, you see black Americans as a positive threat given the current momentum.
This is why you have this silly notion of "forget about the past, let's just hold hands and do business together", so that way white people will ALWAYS stay on top as demonstrated in my race analogy. Well, there is absolutely nothing wrong with working together, but what is silly is this notion of "forgetting the past". This simply can't be done as the present is an everyday reminder of the past and it has become evident that you just don't understand how or why.
Finally, your failure to address most of my comments that are directly related to your very own arguments is evident of that. Either that or you have succumbed to trolling.