Sir X wrote:
Ok, men and women are men and women, men and men aren't. Clearly they are different.
Wow, so you support any kind of discrimination between men and women solely based on the difference of sexes with no other reasons? So, you support men and women being segregated in the work office, they can't share the same office because clearly they are different. Men and women can't share the same parking lot, because clearly they are are different.
So, you support men and women being paid differently because clearly they are different and therefore should not be paid the same?
Wow, didn't you know support those things... surely there is more to simply being different that causes you support any form of segregation or discrimination.
Sir X wrote:
You don't seem to be understanding what I was saying but whatever. You're getting caught up in the legality of DADT which wasn't my point at all.
It seems that your point is that a person's attitude towards an assumed homosexual isn't going to change overnight when that person comes out of the closet, because you already "knew" that the person was homosexual. Am I right? If so, I've addressed your concern.
Sir X wrote:
Given how he can't explain or quantify the privacy issue, I don't think he really understands it beyond "it's an argument he's heard from some top people" We'll see, I'm playing his 20 questions game he loves so much, so maybe he'll let me in on the secret. I think he agrees with the privacy argument, but it's hard to tell, maybe he doesn't and he's just arguing it for no reason.
Although I never thought of it until someone else mentioned it, this isn't just because the "top people" are using it, just an argument that I figured more people could relate to because the "top people" are using it. You knew from the beginning that this was a game, as you stated.
You know that this was all a game from the start. You never thought the two were the same, but you pretended that you did think they were the same just so I can make my argument the basis of your argument. When you realized that you couldn't get anything from me, then you admitted that you don't think the two were the same. If this weren't a game, you would have stated that from the beginning. So, if I have to look "silly" to get my point across, then so be it.
I reckon they'll either get over it, or get a dishonerable discharge by acting out in an idiotic manner. It's the military. If serving next to a guy who likes to put a **** in his mouth is a problem, I'd hate to see what they do when scary people shoot guns at them.
Uh, they both aren't on the same scale. Your sexuality has nothing to do with getting shot at so that's a fail comparison. You're actually doing the same exact thing the bigots against homosexuals are doing. You're making a false comparison to someone's lifestyle to the ability to perform their duty. Many people joined the Army to be in combat, so getting shot at, isn't considered a "problem" to them because that's what they joined up for.
Personally, I would rather be in combat than have someone's junk in my mouth and I'm sure many military people would agree.
It's not an issue, though. There are homosexuals in the military right this second. You probably showered with one when you last took a communal shower. All the yammering about privacy is just a way to stall and keep people from getting rid of an archaic and stupid rule.
So, you have no problem taking a communal shower with guys? In the cases where you KNOW the person might be interested in you? You missing the whole concept of DADT. The whole point is that no one knows. DADT causes people to behave a certain way. Repealing that allows them to act differently.
If the people didn't change, then there wouldn't be a reason to repeal DADT now would it?
Besides, I'm sure there are some homosexuals who chose not to join because of DADT
You've got issues, Alma.
Explain.. If you disagree with the concept of removing yourself from potential problematic situations, then you my friend, is the one with problems.
That privacy thing and the showers... it has nothing to do with being straight or gay. If I, as a straight female, am showering with other straight females, my privac
If that's true, then why aren't men and women sharing showers and rooms? If your privacy is being violated with other heterosexuals, then why are you making this distinction with men? It's the same thing right?