Looks like a thorough trouncing!!Follow

I'm more interested in how the local propositions fall now. It looks like Medical Marijuana is going to pass 60-30. Embryonic Stem Cell research is floating 52-48 in favor. I'm hoping it passes, I want my state to break free from the hold religion has on it politically.

As of just a moment ago he was sitting at 207. California is 55, Oregon is 7 and Washington is 11, all three of which are pretty much certain to go to Obama. Which would put him over 270. So while I won't, in the words of Toby Zeigler, "tempt the wrath of whatever from high atop the thing" by calling it a lock, things are definitely looking--highly optimistic.

Its done.

297 to 141.

President Barack Obama.



Lets all give a cheer and prepare to start slagging him off

And your thinking that's muddy!

I wouldn't call it a thorough trouncing. It was a tight race, if you looked at the vote count. A lot of states could have gone either way. I am happy Obama won though. Change is coming and i'm ready for it.

Edited, Nov 4th 2008 9:53pm by Aadyn Litefoot

Yeah, I mean, if you examine it historically, look how great the economy was under Bush and how god awful it was under Bill Clinton.

You are so right, and I 100% agree with your reasoning.

....... for Sarah Palin!

Yep, all the black people in our country voted for Barack because of his policies and stances on issues....right....I guess it's not racism to vote based on color of the skin IF your black. Thanks, nice double-standard you have.

What time of day was it when the big black guy assraped you and you cried yourself to sleep for months because you liked it so much? I'm guessing noonish. Close?

It's appalling for any white person to vote against him based on race, or for him based on race. It's appalling for any black person to vote for him based on race, and against him based on race. ONLY WHEN we get to this point will we not still have a tangent of racial divide in this country. As it is now, it's just more obvious who voted for whom and why and why this country still has a tangent of racists.


People voted for him because they thought he'd be the best Pressient. He won about 4% more of the black vote than Kerry. He won about 15% more the the white vote. There goes your career as a political scientist. Don't worry, though, under an Obama regime your work as gay **** fluffer isn't threatened.

Well I know one black who isn't support Obama because "He only wants to help the middle class not the poor folks" like him. In a room were all but 4 of us were white.

Then he goes on about How "We" all believe in God (Christian) and all religions grew out of Christianity. To the first remark I pointed out not everyone in the room was Christian, as some were Muslim and there may be a few Atheist. I didn't mention fact that I was Pagan, since he seem confused enough at the outrage directed at him by everyone willing to speak out.

I couldn't hold in the laugher at his statement on all religions came from Christianity though and left the room to break out laughing for a minute.

In his world I'm part of the system that keeps the black man down, so I am sure nothing I said today will get him to question his beliefs. I have a feeling he may be listening a bit too much to the voices in his head, specially the one that told him that there was only one definition of the word Believe.

A few notes which may put a few things to rest. Ok, they won't because the Right has notorious self-inflicted blindness about this stuff but, still.

"The polls are always wrong!"
RCP's final average: Obama 52.1%, McCain 44.5%
Final Results: Obama 53%, McCain 46%

Both well within the MOE and, really, pretty much spot on.

"Bradley Effect!"
Again, a 0.9% difference from poll to final results. And Obama actually overperformed the polls.

Oh, and with 63,905,968 votes, Senator Obama has now won more popular votes than any US presidential candidate in history. I really mention this largely because the Right thought it was a point worth making when Bush had that honor in 2004.

I only caught CNN last night because that's what was being shown on the giant JumboTron at Grant Park but my favorite moment was between Paul Begala, some black Republican chick and some other liberal I don't recall. Anyway, Black Republican Chick was harping about Pelosi & Reid and how scared voters were of single-party government when Begala said "you keep saying that but, um, you just lost the election". So the now flustered BRC goes into "Lower approval ratings than Bush!" when the other liberal guy says "The Democrats are expanding their hold on both chambers of Congress right now". The BRC just looked pissed that people weren't accepting her talking points despite the evidence to the contrary.

Good times.

Fivethirtyeight.com is reporting that it looks as though Obama will pick up the 2nd Congressional District in Nebraska. Nebraska is one of two states which splits its electoral votes along congressional districts meaning that if you win the majority in a particular district, they'll give you an EV for it instead of "state winner takes all". They've never done so before but Obama probably picked up enough votes in Omaha to make it happen. They're still counting early votes, provisionals & absentees.

The Obama plan to try to flip Omaha was a long shot and the idea was that if the national map was tied 269/269, flipping Omaha would prevent the race from going to the House. Kind of funny that it worked given Obama's large margin of victory anyway.

Edited, Nov 6th 2008 2:43pm by Jophiel