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#1 Nov 04 2008 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
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Well. If no-one else is going to say it, I will!

Good job USA! My faith in the voting public is restored. Thankyou.

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Barack Obama is now poised just 70 electoral votes from the presidency. Bear in mind California itself has 55 electoral votes. That's 15 votes Obama needs in all the states that have yet to be called, if you only assume California will be Democratic. Add in the other West Coast states of Washington (11) and Oregon (7) and he is there. And that's without Hawaii and a pile of other states in which Obama is favored..



To those who went out and voted

Smiley: flowersSmiley: clap Smiley: clap Smiley: clap

To those at the party sure to follow Smiley: chug Smiley: drunk

And to those who thought McCain/Palin stood a chance...Smiley: lolSmiley: lol
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#2SefanaPPO, Posted: Nov 04 2008 at 7:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You fanboys may be elated but I can safely say nothing could bring me down in this election, I figured long ago how stupid voters can be.
#3 Nov 04 2008 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
Definitely looks pretty freakin' unlikely for McCain to pull this one off. I really want to go to bed early, but don't want to miss the speeches.
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#4 Nov 04 2008 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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Definitely looks pretty freakin' unlikely for McCain to pull this one off. I really want to go to bed early, but don't want to miss the speeches.


I'm more interested in how the local propositions fall now. It looks like Medical Marijuana is going to pass 60-30. Embryonic Stem Cell research is floating 52-48 in favor. I'm hoping it passes, I want my state to break free from the hold religion has on it politically.
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#5 Nov 04 2008 at 7:35 PM Rating: Good
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I figured long ago how stupid voters can be.


2004, wasnt that long ago
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#6 Nov 04 2008 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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As of just a moment ago he was sitting at 207. California is 55, Oregon is 7 and Washington is 11, all three of which are pretty much certain to go to Obama. Which would put him over 270. So while I won't, in the words of Toby Zeigler, "tempt the wrath of whatever from high atop the thing" by calling it a lock, things are definitely looking--highly optimistic.

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#7 Nov 04 2008 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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As of just a moment ago he was sitting at 207. California is 55, Oregon is 7 and Washington is 11, all three of which are pretty much certain to go to Obama. Which would put him over 270. So while I won't, in the words of Toby Zeigler, "tempt the wrath of whatever from high atop the thing" by calling it a lock, things are definitely looking--highly optimistic.



And it looks like he's got a good chance in Florida too.
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#8 Nov 04 2008 at 8:02 PM Rating: Good
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Its done.

297 to 141.

President Barack Obama.



Lets all give a cheer and prepare to start slagging him off Smiley: wink
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#9AmorTonight, Posted: Nov 04 2008 at 8:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let's all prepare for the upcoming depression. You get what you voted for. My conscious is clear.
#10 Nov 04 2008 at 8:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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And your thinking that's muddy!
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#11 Nov 04 2008 at 8:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Let's all prepare for the upcoming depression. You get what you voted for. My conscious is clear.


This is not the United States of the GOP. Don't wish ill on our nation just because your candidate lost.
#12AmorTonight, Posted: Nov 04 2008 at 8:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You have me all wrong, I truly wish that his policies were to spur economic growth, but the fact, and history, say that it will cause an economic depression.
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AmorTonight wrote:
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This is not the United States of the GOP. Don't wish ill on our nation just because your candidate lost.


You have me all wrong, I truly wish that his policies were to spur economic growth, but the fact, and history, say that it will cause an economic depression.


Good thing history isn't written four years in advance, and to compare this campaign to any other presidential campaign in history would be folly. Feel free to be cynical if things don't work out, but the guy hasn't even had one day in office... reserve your judgment for next year at this time.
#14 Nov 04 2008 at 9:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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I wouldn't call it a thorough trouncing. It was a tight race, if you looked at the vote count. A lot of states could have gone either way. I am happy Obama won though. Change is coming and i'm ready for it.

Edited, Nov 4th 2008 9:53pm by Aadyn Litefoot
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#15 Nov 05 2008 at 1:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I wouldn't call it a thorough trouncing. It was a tight race, if you looked at the vote count. A lot of states could have gone either way.
Obama decisively won Florida, Ohio & Virginia (3, 4 & 5% respectively). Winning states such as North Carolina & Indiana was just icing on the cake. Even more so since those are states that are traditionally red and which Bush won by huge margins (13 & 21%). I'd say those states going blue are evidence of a trouncing instead of the cause.
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#16 Nov 05 2008 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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AmorTonight wrote:
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This is not the United States of the GOP. Don't wish ill on our nation just because your candidate lost.


You have me all wrong, I truly wish that his policies were to spur economic growth, but the fact, and history, say that it will cause an economic depression.


Yeah, I mean, if you examine it historically, look how great the economy was under Bush and how god awful it was under Bill Clinton.

You are so right, and I 100% agree with your reasoning.
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#17 Nov 05 2008 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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2 to 1 electorial votes.

owned. totally owned. a very strong rejection of republican policy by the majority of the american people. not to mention the rejection of racism at long last in our country.

its about time. i only have two words to sum it up with.

Thank God.
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#18 Nov 05 2008 at 2:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thank God.


....... for Sarah Palin! Smiley: grin
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#19AmorTonight, Posted: Nov 05 2008 at 3:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yep, all the black people in our country voted for Barack because of his policies and stances on issues....right....I guess it's not racism to vote based on color of the skin IF your black. Thanks, nice double-standard you have.
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Yep, all the black people in our country voted for Barack because of his policies and stances on issues....right....I guess it's not racism to vote based on color of the skin IF your black. Thanks, nice double-standard you have.


What time of day was it when the big black guy assraped you and you cried yourself to sleep for months because you liked it so much? I'm guessing noonish. Close?

It's appalling for any white person to vote against him based on race, or for him based on race. It's appalling for any black person to vote for him based on race, and against him based on race. ONLY WHEN we get to this point will we not still have a tangent of racial divide in this country. As it is now, it's just more obvious who voted for whom and why and why this country still has a tangent of racists.


People voted for him because they thought he'd be the best Pressient. He won about 4% more of the black vote than Kerry. He won about 15% more the the white vote. There goes your career as a political scientist. Don't worry, though, under an Obama regime your work as *** **** fluffer isn't threatened.
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#21 Nov 05 2008 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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not to mention the rejection of racism at long last in our country.


Yep, all the black people in our country voted for Barack because of his policies and stances on issues....right....I guess it's not racism to vote based on color of the skin IF your black. Thanks, nice double-standard you have.

It's appalling for any white person to vote against him based on race, or for him based on race. It's appalling for any black person to vote for him based on race, and against him based on race. ONLY WHEN we get to this point will we not still have a tangent of racial divide in this country. As it is now, it's just more obvious who voted for whom and why and why this country still has a tangent of racists.


2008 Presidential Election
95% of African American voters voted for Obama in 2008. 4% for McCain.
African American voters made up 13% of those voting.

2004 Presidential Election
88% of African American voters voted for Kerry in 2004. 11% for Bush.
African American voters made up 11% of those voting.

2000 Presidential Election
90% of African American voters voted for Gore in 2000. 10% for Bush.
African American voters made up 10% of those voting.


I see a trend here that goes beyond the race of the candidate. But go ahead and cling to what ever makes you feel better.


1996 Presidential Election
84% of African American voters voted for Clinton in 1996. 12% for Dole.
African American voters made up 10% of those voting.

1992 Presidential Election
83% of African American voters voted for Clinton in 1992. 10% for Bush Sr.
African American voters made up 8% of those voting.

It was harder to find some of the older elections.

Edited, Nov 5th 2008 7:10pm by TirithRR
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#22 Nov 05 2008 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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not to mention the rejection of racism at long last in our country.


Yep, all the black people in our country voted for Barack because of his policies and stances on issues....right....I guess it's not racism to vote based on color of the skin IF your black. Thanks, nice double-standard you have.

It's appalling for any white person to vote against him based on race, or for him based on race. It's appalling for any black person to vote for him based on race, and against him based on race. ONLY WHEN we get to this point will we not still have a tangent of racial divide in this country. As it is now, it's just more obvious who voted for whom and why and why this country still has a tangent of racists.


Well I know one black who isn't support Obama because "He only wants to help the middle class not the poor folks" like him. In a room were all but 4 of us were white.

Then he goes on about How "We" all believe in God (Christian) and all religions grew out of Christianity. To the first remark I pointed out not everyone in the room was Christian, as some were Muslim and there may be a few Atheist. I didn't mention fact that I was Pagan, since he seem confused enough at the outrage directed at him by everyone willing to speak out.

I couldn't hold in the laugher at his statement on all religions came from Christianity though and left the room to break out laughing for a minute.

In his world I'm part of the system that keeps the black man down, so I am sure nothing I said today will get him to question his beliefs. I have a feeling he may be listening a bit too much to the voices in his head, specially the one that told him that there was only one definition of the word Believe.
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Yep, all the black people in our country voted for Barack because of his policies and stances on issues....right....I guess it's not racism to vote based on color of the skin IF your black. Thanks, nice double-standard you have.

Blacks voted for Obama at a 96% clip.

In previous elections, Blacks have voted Democratic at a...90% clip. 6% difference, not to mention that nearly every demographic had increased support for Obama. Not a whole lot of race-based voting there.


Edit: beaten by Tirith.



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A few notes which may put a few things to rest. Ok, they won't because the Right has notorious self-inflicted blindness about this stuff but, still.

"The polls are always wrong!"
RCP's final average: Obama 52.1%, McCain 44.5%
Final Results: Obama 53%, McCain 46%

Both well within the MOE and, really, pretty much spot on.

"Bradley Effect!"
Again, a 0.9% difference from poll to final results. And Obama actually overperformed the polls.

Oh, and with 63,905,968 votes, Senator Obama has now won more popular votes than any US presidential candidate in history. I really mention this largely because the Right thought it was a point worth making when Bush had that honor in 2004.

I only caught CNN last night because that's what was being shown on the giant JumboTron at Grant Park but my favorite moment was between Paul Begala, some black Republican chick and some other liberal I don't recall. Anyway, Black Republican Chick was harping about Pelosi & Reid and how scared voters were of single-party government when Begala said "you keep saying that but, um, you just lost the election". So the now flustered BRC goes into "Lower approval ratings than Bush!" when the other liberal guy says "The Democrats are expanding their hold on both chambers of Congress right now". The BRC just looked ****** that people weren't accepting her talking points despite the evidence to the contrary.

Good times.
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#25 Nov 06 2008 at 5:50 AM Rating: Good
I'm not gonna lie, but all acounts Begala was being a massive douche on Tuesday.

But the fucker had just earned the right to talk smack again.

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Fivethirtyeight.com is reporting that it looks as though Obama will pick up the 2nd Congressional District in Nebraska. Nebraska is one of two states which splits its electoral votes along congressional districts meaning that if you win the majority in a particular district, they'll give you an EV for it instead of "state winner takes all". They've never done so before but Obama probably picked up enough votes in Omaha to make it happen. They're still counting early votes, provisionals & absentees.

The Obama plan to try to flip Omaha was a long shot and the idea was that if the national map was tied 269/269, flipping Omaha would prevent the race from going to the House. Kind of funny that it worked given Obama's large margin of victory anyway.

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