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#102 Oct 14 2007 at 7:57 PM Rating: Default
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Yeah, okay. Troll it is.


I thought you were. No one could really think that there are no extremists in America. I didn't fall for your trolling though. :P


Oh, the old "I know you are but what am I?" ploy. That's about your speed, I suppose, so good game.



Huh? I'm serious. No one could really believe there are no extremists in America. Only a troll could have written something that stupid then claim anyone is a troll who doesn't agree.
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#104 Oct 14 2007 at 8:01 PM Rating: Default
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but 'Think for yourself' isn't a theory that needs proving.
Wasn't what I asked.


But that's what you've spent the last two hours ranting against.
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#105 Oct 14 2007 at 8:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not so much. Someone as smart as you should know better. Smiley: disappointed
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#106 Oct 14 2007 at 8:02 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Today's Buzz Term: "Keyboard Warrior"

Write it down.


I'll write it down later, right now I'm too busy trying to fashion a broadsword out of my numpad keys.
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#107 Oct 14 2007 at 8:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Today's Buzz Term: "Keyboard Warrior"

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Okay if I type it? Since I seem to be a keyboard spearmaiden, or something.
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#108 Oct 14 2007 at 8:06 PM Rating: Default
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Not so much. Someone as smart as you should know better. Smiley: disappointed


Even 'so much' is bad... What possibly problem could you have AT ALL with thinking for yourself? Is it scary for you? Do you need a blankie when you have a thought that wasn't force fed you?
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#109 Oct 14 2007 at 8:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Okay if I type it? Since I seem to be a keyboard spearmaiden, or something.
I always thought of you as more of an ASCII valkyrie
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#110 Oct 14 2007 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Celcio wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Today's Buzz Term: "Keyboard Warrior"

Write it down.


I'll write it down later, right now I'm too busy trying to fashion a broadsword out of my numpad keys.



I wouldn't bother. You're not that good at it to be honest.
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#111 Oct 14 2007 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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What possibly problem could you have AT ALL with thinking for yourself?
This

God, you're a tool Smiley: laugh
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#112 Oct 14 2007 at 8:09 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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What possibly problem could you have AT ALL with thinking for yourself?
This


An advert for a free Toshiba laptop? How did that stop you thinking for yourself?
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#113 Oct 14 2007 at 8:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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What possibly problem could you have AT ALL with thinking for yourself?
This

God, you're a tool Smiley: laugh


I don't get it?
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Pumpkin Lörd Kaolian wrote:
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What possibly problem could you have AT ALL with thinking for yourself?
This

God, you're a tool Smiley: laugh


I don't get it?


It's me. He doesn't like me so he doesn't like the concept.

I made him cry.
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#115 Oct 14 2007 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I'm off to post on the Tarutaru board that the Star Sybil is really a mad old hippy that lives in a tree.

Night.
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#116 Oct 14 2007 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
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Okay if I type it? Since I seem to be a keyboard spearmaiden, or something.
I always thought of you as more of an ASCII valkyrie


OMG I want that as my 10K title. Smiley: laugh


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#117 Oct 14 2007 at 9:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's me. He doesn't like me so he doesn't like the concept.

I made him cry.


Yeah, I don't think so, but whatever gets you through the night.
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#118 Oct 15 2007 at 2:21 AM Rating: Good
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Did anyone else see Ararat?

I didn't really like it, though I'm not sure why.
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#119 Oct 15 2007 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
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The only thing i dont understand...
why dig up old dirt and put forth a bill now, when this was so long ago?

It's like saying
"Mr. MonkeyBush, you should apologize to the Persians for the Britts running amok in the "holy land"". Y'know?

Maybe i missed something though. If i did, please explain, but i just don't see why someone would bring it up now, when it's blatantly obvious that they have more pressing issues to address.

Like when SMN is going to get Bahamut ^^;
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#120 Oct 16 2007 at 6:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I was in my policy class last night. There was about 5mins left of class and we were discussing 'material vs symbolic' policy. I made the mistake of bringing up this Armenian genocide resolution and my professor went off on a 15 minute oratory of genocide through history. We got out late and my classmates gave me dirty looks.

I blame Jophiel.
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#122 Oct 16 2007 at 9:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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In further news...
The Trib's politics blog wrote:
A week after a House committee recognized the killing of as many as 1.5 million Armenians during World War I as genocide, officials will award a Congressional Gold Medal to the Dalai Lama. President Bush, who urged Democratic House leaders against taking up the genocide resolution for fear of antagonizing key Middle Eastern ally Turkey, is planning to attend the ceremony for the Tibetan Buddhist leader Wednesday at the Capitol.

"We are furious," Zhang Qingli, head of the Communist Party in Tibet, said today in Beijing, Reuters is reporting. "If the Dalai Lama can receive such an award, there must be no justice or good people in the world."

The Dalai Lama has lived in exile since leading a failed uprising against Chinese rule in Tibet in 1959. He advocates publicly for Tibetan autonomy within China; Chinese officials say his real goal is independence. They consider him an enemy of the state.

"China has solemnly demanded the United States cancel the above-mentioned and extremely wrongful arrangement," Chinese Foreign Minister Yan Jiechi told reporters at the 17th Communist Party Congress, according to Reuters.

China has withdrawn from multilateral talks on Iran this week in protest; a spokesman for the foreign ministry warned the award would have an "extremely serious impact" on relations between the United States and China.

Bush was planning to meet with the Dalai Lama today and attend the ceremony Wednesday.
Although we're obviously not allied with China, we are reliant upon them for political pressure in several arenas (Iran, N. Korea) and they can negate actions in the UN with their Security Council vote. Of course, China blocking the US via the Security Council is almost a foregone conclusion anytime something big hits the UN anyway. I think it's safe to say that there's no real benefit to giving the Dalai Lama a gold medal from the government except that it's a nice thing to do.

Edited, Oct 16th 2007 12:47pm by Jophiel
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#123 Oct 16 2007 at 3:59 PM Rating: Good
Weren't we laughing at Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a couple weeks ago for denying the Holocaust?

I realize W is used to getting laughed at (& personal feelings aside, I do realize that W isn't nearly the "evil *******" that Ahmadinejad is) but at what point will it get to be too much? Veto giving kids healthcare one day then veto an internationally recognized genocide the next.

I'd be embarassed, if ya know, he hadn't already been President going on 7 years.

/sigh.
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#124 Oct 17 2007 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Aren't I soooo deep?

If only you had the strength to be as deep as I am you could see through left vs right too the truth of the matter!!!


Wow, another half wit who has used self confirmation to promote puddle deep insights as hard fought truths.

/golfclap
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#125 Oct 17 2007 at 6:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I realize W is used to getting laughed at (& personal feelings aside, I do realize that W isn't nearly the "evil *******" that Ahmadinejad is)
Bet there are grieving family members in Iraq who would disagree. It's all a matter of perspective, eh.

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Veto giving kids healthcare one day then veto an internationally recognized genocide the next
What do the two have to do with each other at all?

Did you read the resolution?

Bush can not 'veto' an internationally recogized genocide. Smiley: confused

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#126 Oct 17 2007 at 8:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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And now the pundits weigh in.

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#127 Oct 17 2007 at 9:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm still mad at the Onion for cutting the opinions by 50%. What, they couldn't come up with three more witty statements per week?
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#128 Oct 17 2007 at 9:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm still mad at the Onion for cutting the opinions by 50%. What, they couldn't come up with three more witty statements per week?


They update them five days a week now.

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#129 Oct 17 2007 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah... well...

Fuck you. Smiley: grin
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#130 May 24 2015 at 4:11 AM Rating: Default
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Lol. How's that working for you, Jophiel, o ever-defender-of-the-great-moral-light. Rube.
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Lol. How's that working for you, Jophiel, o ever-defender-of-the-great-moral-light. Rube.
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The Onion? They're getting by okay, I guess.
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#133 May 24 2015 at 6:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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The forums are double-posting! Someone get a senior mod--- oh, wait.

Edited, May 24th 2015 7:24am by Jophiel
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#134 May 25 2015 at 8:26 AM Rating: Excellent
This thread really confused me when you started referring to bush.
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#135 May 25 2015 at 8:35 AM Rating: Excellent
I don't really want to read the whole thread, did the house pass the resolution?
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#136 May 25 2015 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think so but this thread was from a long while ago.
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#137 May 25 2015 at 11:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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The important thing is that a troll resurrected, however briefly, to taunt Joph.
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#138 May 25 2015 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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#139 May 26 2015 at 6:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I'm pleased that a thread from 2007 stayed with someone's psyche that, eight years later, they'd come back to talk to me about it. I guarantee you that I have no clue what this guy was saying eight years ago.
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#140 May 26 2015 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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Just reread the thread joph, it's not like you have to do work at work, or there are any other threads to read.
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I think he's asking about Pelosi's hairstyle.
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Yeah, I'm pleased that a thread from 2007 stayed with someone's psyche that, eight years later, they'd come back to talk to me about it. I guarantee you that I have no clue what this guy was saying eight years ago.


My best guess is that it was something to do with the Armenian Genocide.
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Yeah, I'm pleased that a thread from 2007 stayed with someone's psyche that, eight years later, they'd come back to talk to me about it. I guarantee you that I have no clue what this guy was saying eight years ago.


My best guess is that it was something to do with the Armenian Genocide.


Had to do with Obama's promise to call the Armenian Genocide a genocide, which he broke and which Jophiel was savaging Bush about while expecting Obama to do so with stars in eyes. Or some kind of definitive election difference. If clue is sought, just click once to read and laugh at Jophiel's partisan and disingenuous OP. Which uses millions of victims for political points. Never a real principle behind it.

From Joph's first post: "Bush has been asking the House not to pass the bill. Or for it to even come before the full House. Not because Bush disagrees with it but because he fears that Turkey will retaliate since the Turkish government is very opposed to being told by the US that it was, indeed, a genocide." And oh isn't Bush so bad that I need to create a thread about this!

****, Obama promised to not even need a bill requiring him to call it a genocide. He promised he would in plain speech. He LIED!!! Shame! Where's the similar thread about this made by Jophiel? Oh wow, it doesn't exist, since it was only important when a GOP denied genocide. Armenian Genocide recognition--conveniently forgotten.

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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/511/recognize-armenian-genocide/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2015/04/22/obama-armenia-genocide-turkey-denis-mcdonough/26171577/

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"President Obama's surrender to Turkey represents a national disgrace — it is, very simply, a betrayal of truth, a betrayal of trust," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of Armenian National Committee of America.


Sorry that my psyche includes many of my ancestors being massacred by Turks! How inconvenient to political narrative and promises and realpolitik. Let's not talk about this (well, until the next GOP president--then we can make a new thread about how he refuses to recognize the Genocide and be oh-so-caring-about-massacred-Armenians anew).
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I'm pretty confident that I never once said "Vote for Obama because he promises to call it a genocide!". My remarks in this thread were more about the push and pull of the executive and legislative branches and how the bill had come up many times under both Democratic and Republican House Speakers and how both Democratic and Republican presidents have asked Congress not to pass the bill due to diplomatic considerations.

However, I think it's fantastic that you were still upset enough about a thread from eight years to have it gnawing at your soul and need to come back here to post a gotcha years after the fact.

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#147 May 27 2015 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty confident that I never once said "Vote for Obama because he promises to call it a genocide!"
I have that bumper sticker. Smiley: mad
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Here's my "savaging Bush" for not wanting the bill to pass from the first page of the thread:
Long ago, I once wrote:
Myself, I think that the intent of the bill is a good one although I question the timing and think this probably isn't the best time for it. On the other hand, I don't believe that consequences would be as dire as Bush foretells. It's a shame that we have to set aside doing the "right thing" for practical concerns but I suppose that's politics for you.

Whoah-Ho! I'm surprised no one marched on Washington and tore it to the ground with that sort of incendiary rhetoric from me. ****, I bet I'm on a watch list or something. Smiley: laugh
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#149 May 27 2015 at 8:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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I demand that we recognize the British attempted genocide of the Scots.

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#150 May 27 2015 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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Page two of this thread is even better. I mention again that I voted against pressing the issue and our little friend responds with:
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As I agree with the post you posted after the post I replied to in this post I'll just split and simmer somewhere else.

So he split, simmered elsewhere for eight years, then came back at a full boil to rant about stuff I never agreed with in the first place and demanding to know why I'm not savaging Obama as I did Bush Smiley: facepalm

I must have an interesting effect on people.

Edited, May 27th 2015 12:04pm by Jophiel
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